Microsoft needs to hire a psychologist or something. Their senseless nagging on forcing shit down our throats doesn’t psychologically work the way they think it does.
Microsoft doing shady Microsoft stuff again
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cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 hour ago
mrductape@eviltoast.org 16 hours ago
The problem obviously being that it is not the browser they want you too use, so they create “a problem”.
ilinamorato@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
They don’t even need to go that far. Windows has so many problems all the time, they just have to pick one and attribute this response to it.
SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 13 hours ago
Why stop at just one? Someday soon I’m sure they’ll gleefully tell you that Windows couldn’t format your USB thumb drive, so they reset your browser.
DecentM@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 hours ago
Microsoft Edge encountered an error: Microsoft Edge is not the default browser. We reset your default browser to Microsoft Edge to resolve the problem
muhyb@programming.dev 13 hours ago
There is no end on Microsoft nagging:
- Trying to install Firefox.
- Windows: Why would you need another browser? You already have a browser. Use Microsoft Edge.
somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 hours ago
That’s why i completely nuked Edge when i was still on windows 11. Including WebView. I simply did not give a fuck if anything used edge.
When i installed (fedora) linux for the first time, i was like:
wait… this really does only what i tell it to! holy shit!
And i never looked back. (And i distrohopped over time. I am currently using arch, and testing NixOS in a VM via virt-manager. If i find it to be good enough, i’ll copy the config and install on my host, alongside arch. And slowly, i’ll nixify my pc.)
mere@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 hours ago
nix>>>
although have you considered gentoo?
owsei@programming.dev 10 hours ago
Nix made me love my computer. I have everything I want and if anything goes wrong I just rollback. After a taste it’s the only OS that feels right
damnedfurry@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
I’ve been using Firefox for over a decade, and Windows has never complained about it. What are you talking about?
muhyb@programming.dev 10 hours ago
I think this started with Windows 10, don’t know which version though. A couple examples from the net:
PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 16 hours ago
I love how in their minds this is going to be a win. Like there are going to be all these people out there who just quietly accept that they’ll use Microsoft Edge from now on, and also in addition not form any kind of revision to their brand impression of Microsoft going forward.
I am sure there are some people who just kind of don’t give a fuck about computers who that will be accurate for, but I feel like it’s a much smaller minority than Microsoft seems to think that it is.
Ledivin@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
I am sure there are some people who just kind of don’t give a fuck about computers who that will be accurate for, but I feel like it’s a much smaller minority than Microsoft seems to think that it is.
You’re definitely overestimating the size of your own bubble. The vast, vast, vast majority of people won’t even notice.
PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 15 hours ago
https://radar.cloudflare.com/reports/browser-market-share-2025-q1
Check “Market Share by OS” and switch it to Windows. Every one of those 67.359% of people who is using Chrome had it downloaded to their computer on purpose instead of just clicking “Internet” and getting Edge. Obviously they feel strongly enough to do that, so I don’t see how they would be amenable to losing all their bookmarks and settings and just going with Edge when one day their OS tries to trick them into it.
starlinguk@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
The people who wouldn’t notice wouldn’t have changed their browser.
danc4498@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
I am willing to bet there will be A LOT of people. I am a very tech savvy person, and I use edge on my work computer for many things (single sign on). My default search engine changed to bing, and I ended up using bing by accident for a while. And then for a while longer cause I was too lazy to change the setting.
DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 hours ago
Stupid is as stupid does.
handsoffmydata@lemmy.zip 15 hours ago
Most users I know can’t distinguish Edge from Chrome any longer. I have to ask them to look for the Copilot symbol to differentiate the two.
Cassanderer@thelemmy.club 14 hours ago
All of that but then also that they will buy out any competition so you can care and notice, but fuck you.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 hours ago
I hate that Windows is like this
It would be better if people didn’t need to worry about switching.
Psythik@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Install MSEdgeRedirect to solve this problem.
I also recommend O&O Shut Up 10 and StartAllBack to disable ads/AI/bloat and restore removed Start menu functionality (like vertical taskbars). Also, always build the ISO in Rufus so you have the option to disable the Microsoft account requirement.
Alternatively you would switch to Linux.
Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 minutes ago
Or, if you must stay on Windows, you could switch to Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC, which is Windows 11 without the shitware and with ten years of guaranteed updates. The Mass Grave has the details.
Lightfire228@pawb.social 12 hours ago
Install MSEdgeRedirect to solve this problem.
I also recommend O&O Shut Up 10 and StartAllBack
Me: Why go through all that trouble, just install Linux
Alternatively you would switch to Linux.
Welp
6nk06@sh.itjust.works 11 hours ago
They say that Stockholm syndrome is fake because of bad data. Windows is the proof that it’s true.
Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
There is a possible version of windows that is good and that people want. It’s a just a shame that Microsoft isn’t interested it making it.
As someone who grew up on windows, I’m willing to stay with it for as long as I can make it like that version. I don’t want Mac, and Linux doesn’t support enough (still, but maybe one day)
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
I mean, if the alternative is vanilla Chrome (like it is for the vast majority), it hardly matters at this point. They’re both so loaded with tracking your computer will dent the floor.
Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 minutes ago
The worst part is, firefox isn’t better any more, it’s a bloated mess. I was a firefox user for over a decade and finally ditched it last week.
titanicx@lemmy.zip 6 hours ago
I mean it goes back and forth so much. I remember when Firefox was the king of browsers 15 years maybe 18 years ago. It then got so loaded with shit that Chrome was the only way to go for about 10 years or so now at this point I think it’s pretty much a wash between the two. If nothing else you can use a lighter browser. I personally prefer Chrome because then I can use it on my phone my tablet my computer and have access to all of my tabs as access to all of my searches everything between the three devices.
hdsrob@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
because then I can use it on my phone my tablet my computer and have access to all of my tabs as access to all of my searches everything between the three devices.
You can do that with Firefox. If you use Android you can also run uBlock in the mobile version of Firefox, which is why I’ll never use Chrome again.
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 5 hours ago
I remember my Firefox browser got hijacked so badly, that I had to never install it again on one of my computers, because it would pick up the extension I guess that was left behind in app data or something? Anyway, I was afraid to touch it, long after it was cleared.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
What I meant is there are tons of alternatives to Google-branded Chrome, that are basically Chrome underneath but at least stripped out. Including ones with browser sync across devices.
I am using DuckDuckGo for mobile/desktop sync at the moment.
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 12 hours ago
That app was your other browser. And the problem was that it made itself your default browser. But no worries. We fixed that right up for you.
Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
Translation.
We found a problem and its that you made the Wrong choice.
Set Microsoft edge to default browser
lonesomeCat@lemmy.ml 2 hours ago
It’s not your choice, it’s Spacer’s Choice!
zstg@programming.dev 6 hours ago
Why has OP’s post been downvoted to begin with?
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Some Lemmy clients make it insanely easy to accidentally down vote things without even noticing you did it.
moonburster@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Voyager when you want to move back to your feed is a good example of this
sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 4 hours ago
Can confirm.
octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 10 hours ago
Windows: The top choice when you want someone else to control your computer.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 hours ago
I just love it when I click on a link in Teams and it opens in Edge
cRazi_man@europe.pub 15 hours ago
A post about Windows being shit? On Lemmy? I wonder what the comments are going to be about. Maybe someone will have found an alternative system to use.
FireWire400@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Have you tried ArcaOS by chance?
attinio@feddit.it 18 minutes ago
Have you heard about our lord and savior Terry Davis?
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 14 hours ago
ReactOS ^/s^
Seriously, you know the answer.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 hours ago
Have you tried the new update? It actually isn’t all that bad. It is terrible from a security perspective but if you just want to play some Win XP games it works fine offline.
markpaskal@lemmy.ca 12 hours ago
Switched to Ubuntu completely this year and I think it’s finally ready. There are still issues, there are always going to be issues, but at least I get to choose which apps I want to use.
Windows 11 is just objectively terrible. It’s Microsoft turning your power bill into their profit.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 hour ago
New 3400$ laptop this year. I’ve had it for 5 months.
Sometimes the display driver wigs out and my cursor is permanently glitched until reboot.
Other times my browser is so sluggish until I close and restart it.
Sometimes my keyboard and mouse cut out, and I get repeated keystrokes for a few seconds or a brief period where it ignores my key presses.
I have so many more complaints about windows but I’d probably reach a character limit.
You know it’s bad when I boot my manjaro Linux desktop for the first time in months and the first thing I notice is how fast everything is to load.
cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 hours ago
Love seeing love for Linux, but my Macs have never once complained about me using Firefox. Safari is there if I want an objectively worse Internet that does a couple things Firefox does via paid extensions but are free in Firefox. But if I use Firefox, macOS does not care.
I think the lesson is, as long as you’re not choosing Windows, you are choosing well. If you have to use Windows at work, that’s fine. So do I. But you don’t have to use it at home too.
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Apple users are already locked into the whole vertical stack. The friction in that ecosystem comes from trying to use other hardware. If you daily-drive a Mac, you probably also have an iPhone and your biggest screen might be driven by an apple TV. And, oh, you might as well get their accessories and peripherals too so that everything just works. AirPods, mouse, keyboard. All the way through to the software experience. It’s not just inconvenient or risky to install an app from outside of the app store, you may literally think it’s the only way to install software, so the thought never occurs. Every design choice in the ecosystem serves to keep users corralled. The tech stack of an Apple user is a continuous, gapless monolith made of glass and brushed aluminum. It keeps them safe, serves their every need, and has “designed by Apple in California” stamped on the bottom.
Meanwhile, in Redmond, Microsoft roots around desperately in the same bag of dirty tricks they have been for 30+ years for something that will give them a fraction of that cohesiveness, while half their user base doesn’t even know what their browser is called.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 hours ago
Apple stuff only works well with other Apple stuff
They are also very antirepair
zstg@programming.dev 6 hours ago
Disagree. Apple is another evil. Period. They might be better than Microsoft, but thatvdoes not make them good in any way.
glitchdx@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Something I’ve noticed, and it’s consistent enough that I suspect that microsoft does it on purpose, there’s a 50/50 chance that your windows instal will either be fine forever without problems, or plagued with constant issues that get worse with every update. 2 identical machines with the same install media can produce very different experiences.
I use linux now, and I no longer do tech support, so I’m glad I don’t have to deal with that shit anymore.
audaxdreik@pawb.social 10 hours ago
You’re absolutely right, but there’s a bit more to it than that.
As someone who deployed Windows professionally for years and was a power user at home, let me supply some additional details,
Windows has become business software through and through. It can run fine enough if you go with a basic install and minimal tweaks through only the standard channels (like Group Policy) and this is probably what those people always loudly claiming “well I never have an issue!” are doing and then they’ll accuse you for bringing it on yourself from deviating from this.
But what everyone should understand, especially them, is that this is not how normal people use their computers and it’s utter bullshit that Microsoft continues to restrict people into this box. Most businesses don’t need hardly anything aside from Office and perhaps one or two industry specific applications, an overwhelming number of these being SaaS these days anyways. Normal people on the other hand use a wide variety of software for their businesses and hobbies in a wide array of configurations and what’s more, we enjoy personalizing our experiences on top of it, as we should! This unsurprisingly leads to more instability that Microsoft simply doesn’t want to take responsibility for.
People still complain about not being able to move the taskbar from the bottom of the screen and Microsoft apologists will say, “but it’s such a small thing!” And well, it is and that’s kind of my point; it’s a bellweather. I bet it’s a simple fix, they could do it, they could please people and provide further usability but they just don’t have to. How long has it gone unaddressed now? You want to play Call of Duty, you cretin? Lick our boots! And don’t even get me started on the whole SecureBoot/TPM 2.0 DRM lockdown issue.
I use Arch BTW and here’s my quick pitch for that. It really is a good distro for people of moderate or above skill level. I slowly built it out over time, bolted on each carefully selected piece of software from the repository, reading the wiki and making configurations as I went. In doing so, I gained a better understanding of Linux in general and my system in specific so on the rare occasions something does break, I don’t feel as clueless addressing it. The reason we all start to sound like cult-like zealots after awhile is because we’ve established a personal relationship with our computers; it is my friend again. It’s hard to understate the actual palpable relief that comes from cutting out a bloated, malicious corporation from that chain of trust with a machine we use in our daily lives.
It’s time to end Microsoft. Reach out, be helpful and welcoming in the Linux community. They’re losing balance, they’ve overplayed their hand on 11 and over-invested in AI and while I doubt we’d be lucky enough to be truly rid of them, we can see them suffer some real damage.
PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 16 hours ago
Funnily enough, I got an email from MS plugging their Copilot shit.
I don’t give a fuck about what I’m subscribed to, I give a fuck about the link to unsubscribe from it.
brbposting@sh.itjust.works 13 hours ago
Hmm is that illegal (missing unsub link) in this case?
Romkslrqusz@lemmy.zip 13 hours ago
I manage a ton of consumer Windows devices and have seldom seen this message. It also hasn’t ever appeared on any of the multitude my own Windows devices that I’m using for hours every week.
I have also seen this message with regard to other file associations like .PDF, certain image formats, and archive formats.
Microsoft has plenty of dark patterns to try and loop users back into Microsoft Edge, but I don’t think this is one of them.
Edge just happens to be the “constant” in an ocean of variables because it ships with the OS and is integrated into so many other facets. The broken .PDF association also defaults back Edge, Image formats to Photos, Archive formats to the Explorer archive utility. I’m sure .txt would scale back to Notepad.
greyfox@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Likely that the browser they were pointed at went missing (executable moved or something), or was crashing at launch, and this is just Windows saying “I can’t find the default you wanted so I am falling back to Edge, otherwise a lot of stuff is going to be broken”.
dubyakay@lemmy.ca 8 hours ago
I disagree with this assessment. If the default association suddenly disappears, I want it to prompt me the next time what I want to use as default instead. Not arbitrarily set a default for me that I do not agree with.
Luckily I run linux now (Arch btw) since last summer.
Romkslrqusz@lemmy.zip 5 hours ago
I agree, that would be my preference too.
But Windows isn’t built for advanced users, it’s a mainstream OS built for the average consumer. What you and I might see as “taking control away from the user”, the general population might see as “one less confusing choice” if only they had a clue.
I’m glad you’ve finally found your home with Linux :) There are still too many frustrated Windows power users who still don’t know how much better they could have it. I use a bit of everything, btw. Platform agnostic with more Windows/MacOS experience only because the nature of my job demands it.
Treczoks@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
“An app caused a problem”. Let me guess, that app was called “Edge”, and it was just pissed to be ignored.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 hour ago
I think the app was “Firefox” and it was also set as the default.
Treczoks@lemmy.world 11 minutes ago
You mean the error of the Firefox app was to set the browser default anywhere but Edge?
Duallight@lemmy.today 14 hours ago
Playing devils advocate here. If there was a bug when chrome/Firefox/whatever tried to set the default browser, wouldn’t the most logical action to reset the default back to edge, instead of leaving it in a weird bugged out state?
TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
What was the problem? It was set to not Microsoft Edge.
mereo@piefed.ca 14 hours ago
I switched to Linux and now, I'm in the mildlysoothing category
desmosthenes@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
miss the golden days of antitrust actually antitrusting
i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 15 hours ago
I got an email advertising Windows 11 features. It was a mandatory service email they would not let me unsubscribe from.
What is wrong with these people?
everett@lemmy.ml 14 hours ago
Mark spam?
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 hours ago
Please don’t run end of life software… (I’m assuming you are on Win10)
neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 hours ago
Last time Microsoft tried something like this, they got the shit slapped out of them by federal antitrust regulators:
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 14 hours ago
Ah, the Golden Age of the USA… with a functional judicial system… I feel nostalgic
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 hours ago
“Shit slapped out of them” is a bit of a exaggeration
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 14 hours ago
This obviously sucks. But what led to this situation? Either it forced upon you at work, or you spent money on it, set up an account with e-mail and some other form of real life credentials, im- or explicitely agreed to all sorts of “telemetry”, and now you’re here.
There’s a non-profit, free and libre alternative right there for the taking. They spent decades on making the process of installing it as convenient as possible, not to speak of the OS itself. Switch now.
danc4498@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
As an aside, what web browser is everyone using these days? Chrome is obviously out. Firefox seems to be fucking up as of late. Opera? DDG?
oce@jlai.lu 15 hours ago
Your employment was removed
Your work caused a problem with your default job setting, so it was reset to Microsoft Copilot.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 hours ago
I laughed at Microsoft a lot when they basically made Windows 10 beg people to try edge.
You tried to change your default and it was like, this isn’t recommended! And you’re like, idgaf change the default, and Windows is like, are you sure? Yes! But edge can save battery power. Are you really sure?
Fuck off edge. Change the default.