Submitted 3 weeks ago by tauren@lemm.ee to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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I wanted to buy something second-hand. Unfortunately, Facebook Marketplace is the shit where I live. So I thought I could quickly register, contact the seller, and delete my account afterwards.
However, I refuse to participate in this insanity. Video selfie my ass, Facebook.
For years people have given me the blinking stare of unbelief when I tell them I’ve never had a Facebook. Now being absent on that platform and others is seen as suspicious. I got a buddy who couldn’t complete a job application because Facebook was a mandatory field in the electronic form. The border Gestapo and the State Department require your socials for visa applications. A friend told me that she wouldn’t date a guy without socials because she browses them as a kind of background check.
Fuck Meta.
Most of those are indeed bullshit since authorities have better platforms and businesses don’t need to know your private info.
But women doing background checks to see what kind of men they are dating on the only platforms they have access to is just security. You can even leave your accounts info fully locked except for friends.
No, it’s quite healthy to each having their private account they don’t share with their partner. Guess what the reverse is.
Apparently you’re a modern horror story.
That’s a generational thing. 99% of my friends and people of my age I know have never had Facebook. Instagram, however…
For years people have given me the blinking stare of unbelief when I tell them I’ve never had a Facebook.
The same people who two decades ago would have look at you sideways for using internet to talk with strangers. These idiots always conform to what is popular.
Same, I always assume the worst with big companies and/or data.
They were always scummy.
Never gave my name or info, never been on social platforms unless there was a good reason to be on them.
You can bypass this via github.com/hacksider/Deep-Live-Cam. You can get the faces needed from thispersondoesnotexist.com. Although if you are privacybro, there’s no documentation yet for running Deep Live Cam on Linux. This method is more private than using phone numbers since you can do this with disposable emails.
use a VPN in Helsinki to create a Facebook page so I can buy a used pushmower in Tennesee.
2025, everyone.
Modern problems require modern solutions! Thanks.
We don’t need documentation where we’re going 🌈
Oh, sweet. Not using Facebook, but that’s nice !
I got this on one of my joke accounts years ago.
I googled “3d face generator”, clicked on the first website, and slapped in an image of trump. Then I just rotated the 3d model following whatever the instructiones were, and it worked lol
which means a bot could also easily pass the test, even though they claim it’s for checking you are not a bot
Discord asks your phone number for logging in from different locations when you already have TOTP 2FA and they still try to gaslight knowing your phone number is for your “security”
I would sooner put my nuts in an iron vice while running 10.000 volts through it and lighting it on fire than provide Facebook with anything at all.
Me too, but it has nothing to do with Facebook. Don’t kink shame me.
How about putting googly eyes on your nuts and making a video selfie of them to send Facebook?
🏀🍆👀⚽
that might actually get him verified
I think I will steal your wording for future use.
Have you ever had a Facebook account?
Nope. Managed to stay off of it for my entire life so far. Reason for it was that back in '05 or a bit later one of the very first things I learned about the nascent Facebook, was Zuck’s famous “Dumb fucks” remark about his early users. I rightfully concluded that someone with such a mindset would be an absolutely plague on mankind and I would never willingly help them in any way, no matter how insignificant.
I had one many years ago because my wife talked me i to it and ‘deleted’ it due to not using it after a couple years because it was showing me other things than just my contacts even back then. It was mostly a way to see my hogh school acquaintences and childhood friends who moved far away were still alive.
The superficial connections were fine, but not engaging like nearby friends. I have one friend who does post there and sometimes forgets to put it elsewhere, but my wife lets me know when he does.
Note: I put ‘deleted’ because there is zero chance they deleted anything other than the ability to log in.
Even if you don’t have a facebook account, you’ve got a facebook account.
“We, a company that has allowed AI generated propaganda to run rampant and destabilize global politics, need to make sure you are a real person so you must provide us with a video proving you are real that we totally wont use for AI and facial recognition purposes.”
I 100% trust this, Zuckerberg is fine upstanding man
Yup. I can attest that he’s never said, about his users, “dumb fucks trust me”
Zucky needs your image so he can share with with Homeland, in case you visit too many liberal pages.
Video selfie my ass
That probably won’t work, since they expect your face. Worth a try, though.
just do a face swap thingy
This is the reason i haven’t delete my facebook, my pre-massively-enshittified account doesn’t need to go through any of this shit.
Yeah, I regret deleting my old account now. I never used it except for marketplace. Now I’m realizing Craigslist is pretty much dead in comparison
I don’t regret deleting mine. I don’t need any of that shit, fuck ’em.
I made an account over decade ago, never really used it even back then because I was suspicious even then. Then i tried logging in years after that and they demanded passport or some other identification to even let me log in.
So i sent them a picture i drew myself, i would post it here but i dont think i have the file anymore. It was basically like a mockup passport with picture of a clown and a stamp with picture of middle finger. I hoped they would just ban my account or something since that is about best I can hope. They would never abide by gdpr request and even if they say they did there is no way to know if they actually did.
I’m in the same boat. I have leftover PC parts to offload and Craigslist is shit and the Nextdoor app doesn’t have as much reach from what I can see.
Fediverse alternative to Facebook’s Marketplace
I recently deleted it since my friends finally decided to move on from messenger to… Instagram.
Progress is progress right? Anyway I’m not planning on ever using the marketplace so hopefully I will never need an account again.
that’s not progress, it is trend. in zero ways it is better.
It’s funny because I created an IG a year or so ago and I don’t recall it asking these questions.
Ig and fb is kinda separated iirc, even when it all fall under Meta. So does Thread.
I fucking hate that marketplace is the new place to find second hand stuff. Meta developed a marketplace to keep people on their website, not to have a good place to sell stuff. There are existing options they were actually developed as marketplaces that are slowly dying because of Meta’s crap product.
It’s seriously infuriating having to go into Facebook marketplace to buy a used car now. Missing some key filters that make it so hard to browse.
Is Craigslist shit now? What happened to it?
Its still the same as it ever was, just less traffic and they charge five bucks to list vehicles now. I still use it but responses are a lot slower.
Just more individuals posting on marketplace. Sadly for us blocked from Facebook. We can’t get into the market.
Fediverse alternative to Facebook’s Marketplace
I quit facebook 10 years ago. I am 67. If this old fart can quit so can you.
Don’t make it easier for the american fascist government to identify you even further on Facebook.
I am now, and will forever remain, a child of the old internet.
When your username was all that other people knew about you, and you didnt even like them having that for anonymity reasons, lol.
I continue to be baffled about how people on the internet went from “Don’t tell anyone, anything about you!” to “Hi My name is Dan Rutherford, I like at 5849 Blasse Rd, in Tarry Birch,Kenfucky. Heres a picture of myself, my wife, my children, and a list of everything expensive I have in the house. Also my childs bedroom window wont lock. Anyway, we’re going on a 3 week european vacation now! Expect hourly updates!”
Fb is nothing more than promoting right wing propaganda.
Last time my buddy sent me a Facebook link, it wouldn’t let me view it without giving them my phone number. I did not.
You can scroll around a tiny bit vefore you are forced to make an account. This is good because it prevents new joiners.
Not on mobile I couldn’t. Full screen prompt for my phone number. No way out but to put it in or just close it.
Discord does this for logging in from different places a lot which is bonkers to me how many people dont care about it, it doesnt even matter if you have TOTP 2FA activated, they still try to gaslight the need for phone number is for “security”
I get it. They want to combat bots and potentially even detect if a person is old enough to use the platform. However Facebook has eroded absolutely any trust that there’s no way I’d give them this. Not that I use Facebook anyway.
There’s no way they want to combat bots. You report bot content and they’re like “nah, this doesn’t go against our community guidelines” all the fucking time.
What do you expect from a company that removed independent fact-checkers, wanted to add AI profiles as users, amongst other things? I think they relish bots and the engagement they bring to the platform, completely blind-sided by how bad it looks for them long-term.
I’d kind of think it would be in their interest to, not because they give a shit about what their end users think, but what their customers (advertisers) think. I’d imagine that advertisers are paying x amount to reach real humans that can spend money, so if it turns out that businesses are paying to advertise to bots then I can’t see them being too happy about that. Not unless they’re upfront with businesses and they tell them that x% of their user base is bots and they’ll only charge them to advertise to real people.
I didn’t have a Facebook account before. I sure as fuck am not getting one now.
I have an Instagram account where I just lurk, no posting, no following, no likes. At my last sign in there was some message about my account being restricted for supporting extremists or some bullshit and I would need to submit a photo of my ID.
I also just closed it directly. But I need to delete my Meta Accounts some day
Literally over ten years ago, they wanted a photo of my government ID.
Haven’t had an account since
I read so many of the comments and concerns, and I don’t even disagree with them!
Just want to add my two cents.
Lots of people are talking about how they resent that Marketplace has become the place to sell. I get that.
However, this is more of the same in an ongoing evolution of online ads & classifieds.
Originally eBay was King. Craigslist was kind of under the radar and not enough of a threat that they did anything about it.
Then all kinds of little online competitors to eBay started to pop up and they were becoming reasonably successful.
eBay then acquired PayPal so they could squash up startups. It worked. They no longer own PayPal but things change.
Kijiji popped up and was eating eBay’s lunch on a local level. Instead of competing, eBay spun off local classifieds to another company which acquired Kijiji.
I don’t even know all the back and forth wranglings, but it’s all a giant multi-corporate game that’s been played for 30 years.
Then all kinds of different “out of the box” storefronts started to appear.
Now Meta got in the game and they are keeping eBay and Kijiji “honest”. They’ve gone ahead and integrated it with Messenger and other apps so you never have to leave their ecosystem.
It literally took 30 years, but I am finally content as both a buyer and a heavy seller, with all of the online options available. I no longer feel like they are trying to wrangle every penny out of me as of seller, and they let me voluntarily pay to promote my sales in MY terms.
That said, I’m not sure how I feel about needing so much information about people just to make an account.
On one hand (I’m very biased towards the seller’s perspective) I can actually see the need to apply as much verification as possible for new accounts. It’s been a severe deficiency in their product for years and years and years. And as a seller, I am exhausted with bots and fake accounts and people who want to hide in the shadows, there’s no reason to do that when you’re buying a vacuum off me and want to come to my home to pick it up.
On the other hand, I made my account years ago so I’m not subject to this requirement. But if I put myself in the shoes of somebody making a new account today. Holy fuck would I not be impressed with this.
I really don’t know what the answer is. I would never upload ID or a video of my face to them. I don’t know what’s needed here.
So full face capture how is this not a violation of privacy? You know they’re keeping that shit.
Where is the #Fediverse #craigslist alternative? Lets get going, people!
Looks like we found a good use case for facial generative ai
The infuriating part is people willing to use Facebook at all.
This clearly abilist against headless Americans
I just can’t believe ANYONE would actually do this! WTF??
Ah, hell no.
Who is actually creating a legitimate Facebook account at this point?
I moderate a few groups on Facebook, and every account I see for new members that was created within the last few years is a spammer. The people who wanted Facebook accounts already have them. Very very few actual human beings are signing up for new legitimate accounts at this point.
Facebook should just close the new account option. They’re working toward AIs talking to each other and won’t need human interaction any more anyway.
What’s next? Fingerprints? Criminal record? DNA? Retina scans? It’s like people are joining CIA and not a social media site
I was banned from Facebook. Because I commented on a pro civil war post by a bot. Saying I’d gladly meet any of these confederates on the field of battle. Guess FB is protecting these bots because it gets so much traction with the terrorists sympathizers on the right. Go figure. 20 year old acct nuked. Lost so many photos.
There are no more excuses, people who say that these services are easier to use are stupid
ofc not to train ai
Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yeah, bullshit. This is to help train their facial recognition AI.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I mean, it’s a bit of both.
BossDj@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
I don’t think they care if you’re real anymore
wischi@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Can’t really be a bit of both because they can’t confirm shit if they don’t know what you look like in the first place. It could be to confirm that you are human (and maybe that you don’t already have an account) but they can’t confirm your “identity”.
klao@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
and if they find or know a way to sell that with the other data colleted from you, they will proudly do it