Submitted 2 days ago by tauren@lemm.ee to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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I wanted to buy something second-hand. Unfortunately, Facebook Marketplace is the shit where I live. So I thought I could quickly register, contact the seller, and delete my account afterwards.
However, I refuse to participate in this insanity. Video selfie my ass, Facebook.
For years people have given me the blinking stare of unbelief when I tell them I’ve never had a Facebook. Now being absent on that platform and others is seen as suspicious. I got a buddy who couldn’t complete a job application because Facebook was a mandatory field in the electronic form. The border Gestapo and the State Department require your socials for visa applications. A friend told me that she wouldn’t date a guy without socials because she browses them as a kind of background check.
Fuck Meta.
Most of those are indeed bullshit since authorities have better platforms and businesses don’t need to know your private info.
But women doing background checks to see what kind of men they are dating on the only platforms they have access to is just security. You can even leave your accounts info fully locked except for friends.
No, it’s quite healthy to each having their private account they don’t share with their partner. Guess what the reverse is.
Apparently you’re a modern horror story.
For years people have given me the blinking stare of unbelief when I tell them I’ve never had a Facebook.
The same people who two decades ago would have look at you sideways for using internet to talk with strangers. These idiots always conform to what is popular.
That’s a generational thing. 99% of my friends and people of my age I know have never had Facebook. Instagram, however…
Same, I always assume the worst with big companies and/or data.
They were always scummy.
Never gave my name or info, never been on social platforms unless there was a good reason to be on them.
“We, a company that has allowed AI generated propaganda to run rampant and destabilize global politics, need to make sure you are a real person so you must provide us with a video proving you are real that we totally wont use for AI and facial recognition purposes.”
I 100% trust this, Zuckerberg is fine upstanding man
Yup. I can attest that he’s never said, about his users, “dumb fucks trust me”
You can bypass this via github.com/hacksider/Deep-Live-Cam. You can get the faces needed from thispersondoesnotexist.com. Although if you are privacybro, there’s no documentation yet for running Deep Live Cam on Linux. This method is more private than using phone numbers since you can do this with disposable emails.
use a VPN in Helsinki to create a Facebook page so I can buy a used pushmower in Tennesee.
2025, everyone.
Modern problems require modern solutions! Thanks.
We don’t need documentation where we’re going 🌈
Oh, sweet. Not using Facebook, but that’s nice !
I quit facebook 10 years ago. I am 67. If this old fart can quit so can you.
Don’t make it easier for the american fascist government to identify you even further on Facebook.
I am now, and will forever remain, a child of the old internet.
When your username was all that other people knew about you, and you didnt even like them having that for anonymity reasons, lol.
I continue to be baffled about how people on the internet went from “Don’t tell anyone, anything about you!” to “Hi My name is Dan Rutherford, I like at 5849 Blasse Rd, in Tarry Birch,Kenfucky. Heres a picture of myself, my wife, my children, and a list of everything expensive I have in the house. Also my childs bedroom window wont lock. Anyway, we’re going on a 3 week european vacation now! Expect hourly updates!”
Fb is nothing more than promoting right wing propaganda.
I got this on one of my joke accounts years ago.
I googled “3d face generator”, clicked on the first website, and slapped in an image of trump. Then I just rotated the 3d model following whatever the instructiones were, and it worked lol
which means a bot could also easily pass the test, even though they claim it’s for checking you are not a bot
Discord asks your phone number for logging in from different locations when you already have TOTP 2FA and they still try to gaslight knowing your phone number is for your “security”
I get it. They want to combat bots and potentially even detect if a person is old enough to use the platform. However Facebook has eroded absolutely any trust that there’s no way I’d give them this. Not that I use Facebook anyway.
There’s no way they want to combat bots. You report bot content and they’re like “nah, this doesn’t go against our community guidelines” all the fucking time.
What do you expect from a company that removed independent fact-checkers, wanted to add AI profiles as users, amongst other things? I think they relish bots and the engagement they bring to the platform, completely blind-sided by how bad it looks for them long-term.
I’d kind of think it would be in their interest to, not because they give a shit about what their end users think, but what their customers (advertisers) think. I’d imagine that advertisers are paying x amount to reach real humans that can spend money, so if it turns out that businesses are paying to advertise to bots then I can’t see them being too happy about that. Not unless they’re upfront with businesses and they tell them that x% of their user base is bots and they’ll only charge them to advertise to real people.
Zuckerborg is literally promoting bot “friends”
its not even about it, probably more data to tie to you and sell to data brokers, facebook feed most of the time wont even prioritize to show your friends posts instead will show posts from pages that paid Facebook to advertise, its literally no longer what it used to be for a few years already and probably why they were all in for having a separate messenger app for Facebook so those who find more convenient not to quit will just keep using it to maintain contact with people through it while keeping their accounts
I would sooner put my nuts in an iron vice while running 10.000 volts through it and lighting it on fire than provide Facebook with anything at all.
Me too, but it has nothing to do with Facebook. Don’t kink shame me.
How about putting googly eyes on your nuts and making a video selfie of them to send Facebook?
🏀🍆👀⚽
that might actually get him verified
I think I will steal your wording for future use.
Have you ever had a Facebook account?
Nope. Managed to stay off of it for my entire life so far. Reason for it was that back in '05 or a bit later one of the very first things I learned about the nascent Facebook, was Zuck’s famous “Dumb fucks” remark about his early users. I rightfully concluded that someone with such a mindset would be an absolutely plague on mankind and I would never willingly help them in any way, no matter how insignificant.
I had one many years ago because my wife talked me i to it and ‘deleted’ it due to not using it after a couple years because it was showing me other things than just my contacts even back then. It was mostly a way to see my hogh school acquaintences and childhood friends who moved far away were still alive.
The superficial connections were fine, but not engaging like nearby friends. I have one friend who does post there and sometimes forgets to put it elsewhere, but my wife lets me know when he does.
Note: I put ‘deleted’ because there is zero chance they deleted anything other than the ability to log in.
Even if you don’t have a facebook account, you’ve got a facebook account.
Zucky needs your image so he can share with with Homeland, in case you visit too many liberal pages.
Video selfie my ass
That probably won’t work, since they expect your face. Worth a try, though.
just do a face swap thingy
Last time my buddy sent me a Facebook link, it wouldn’t let me view it without giving them my phone number. I did not.
You can scroll around a tiny bit vefore you are forced to make an account. This is good because it prevents new joiners.
Not on mobile I couldn’t. Full screen prompt for my phone number. No way out but to put it in or just close it.
Discord does this for logging in from different places a lot which is bonkers to me how many people dont care about it, it doesnt even matter if you have TOTP 2FA activated, they still try to gaslight the need for phone number is for “security”
Literally over ten years ago, they wanted a photo of my government ID.
Haven’t had an account since
Literally over ten years ago, they wanted a photo of my government ID
I send in a fake one, they accepted it.
same happened with me then a few other friends which made it easier to convince them to leave Facebook
Let them continue filling the site with bots. Dont use that garbage.
Who is actually creating a legitimate Facebook account at this point?
I moderate a few groups on Facebook, and every account I see for new members that was created within the last few years is a spammer. The people who wanted Facebook accounts already have them. Very very few actual human beings are signing up for new legitimate accounts at this point.
Facebook should just close the new account option. They’re working toward AIs talking to each other and won’t need human interaction any more anyway.
I deleted my Facebook account in 2010 after my college English professor forced us to use it for an assignment. He thought he was hip; I thought it was disgusting. Anyway fast forward a dozen years and like OP says basically the only way to buy and sell used shit now is through FB marketplace. I was willing to create an account just for that, but when they wanted my phone number I said nope no way. This video selfie thing is so much worse.
i dint create one because of that too, when i used a some temp email, the account was autobanned for 6months. then i found a way to bypass thier login popups, because i just wanted to see some posts.
boomers, and right wingers. i used to follow somed asian yotubers who fled to facebook, because it was easier to control content, and criticism, since they cant do anything to subreddits, and yes they brigaded the subs about them to shut down any controversy about them.
They’ve been advertising it hard to the zoom zooms since they were born after the window where it was just assumed that everyone had Facebook
I fucking hate that marketplace is the new place to find second hand stuff. Meta developed a marketplace to keep people on their website, not to have a good place to sell stuff. There are existing options they were actually developed as marketplaces that are slowly dying because of Meta’s crap product.
I left Facebook in 2009 or 2010 or so, but I attempted to register a facebook account for my business over the weekend. I can confirm, it wanted a selfie of my business. Wasn’t sure what to do with that, so I still don’t have a facebook account for my business.
This is the reason i haven’t delete my facebook, my pre-massively-enshittified account doesn’t need to go through any of this shit.
I didn’t have a Facebook account before. I sure as fuck am not getting one now.
There are no more excuses, people who say that these services are easier to use are stupid
I read so many of the comments and concerns, and I don’t even disagree with them!
Just want to add my two cents.
Lots of people are talking about how they resent that Marketplace has become the place to sell. I get that.
However, this is more of the same in an ongoing evolution of online ads & classifieds.
Originally eBay was King. Craigslist was kind of under the radar and not enough of a threat that they did anything about it.
Then all kinds of little online competitors to eBay started to pop up and they were becoming reasonably successful.
eBay then acquired PayPal so they could squash up startups. It worked. They no longer own PayPal but things change.
Kijiji popped up and was eating eBay’s lunch on a local level. Instead of competing, eBay spun off local classifieds to another company which acquired Kijiji.
I don’t even know all the back and forth wranglings, but it’s all a giant multi-corporate game that’s been played for 30 years.
Then all kinds of different “out of the box” storefronts started to appear.
Now Meta got in the game and they are keeping eBay and Kijiji “honest”. They’ve gone ahead and integrated it with Messenger and other apps so you never have to leave their ecosystem.
It literally took 30 years, but I am finally content as both a buyer and a heavy seller, with all of the online options available. I no longer feel like they are trying to wrangle every penny out of me as of seller, and they let me voluntarily pay to promote my sales in MY terms.
That said, I’m not sure how I feel about needing so much information about people just to make an account.
On one hand (I’m very biased towards the seller’s perspective) I can actually see the need to apply as much verification as possible for new accounts. It’s been a severe deficiency in their product for years and years and years. And as a seller, I am exhausted with bots and fake accounts and people who want to hide in the shadows, there’s no reason to do that when you’re buying a vacuum off me and want to come to my home to pick it up.
On the other hand, I made my account years ago so I’m not subject to this requirement. But if I put myself in the shoes of somebody making a new account today. Holy fuck would I not be impressed with this.
I really don’t know what the answer is. I would never upload ID or a video of my face to them. I don’t know what’s needed here.
Ah, hell no.
I have an Instagram account where I just lurk, no posting, no following, no likes. At my last sign in there was some message about my account being restricted for supporting extremists or some bullshit and I would need to submit a photo of my ID.
I also just closed it directly. But I need to delete my Meta Accounts some day
So full face capture how is this not a violation of privacy? You know they’re keeping that shit.
I just can’t believe ANYONE would actually do this! WTF??
It’s going to require DNA samples in my lifetime.
Where is the #Fediverse #craigslist alternative? Lets get going, people!
Guess the silver lining of this particular instance of dystopian tech-bro fascist nightmare stuff is that it causes more friction, and less people to join up.
The infuriating part is people willing to use Facebook at all.
Pretty sure Instagram also requires something similar in some cases. I tried to make an account recently to see an artist’s full postings and it eventually asked me to verify I am a human by submitting a selfie picture
The dickvid potential is there.
Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Yeah, bullshit. This is to help train their facial recognition AI.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I mean, it’s a bit of both.
BossDj@lemm.ee 2 days ago
I don’t think they care if you’re real anymore
wischi@programming.dev 2 days ago
Can’t really be a bit of both because they can’t confirm shit if they don’t know what you look like in the first place. It could be to confirm that you are human (and maybe that you don’t already have an account) but they can’t confirm your “identity”.
klao@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
and if they find or know a way to sell that with the other data colleted from you, they will proudly do it