I’m with boomers on this. It’s even worse if it redirects you to their FB page
Shirley you cant be serious!
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nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 1 year ago
I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 1 year ago
If I have to log into fucking facebook to see a goddamn menu I’m leaving.
Resonanz@slrpnk.net 1 year ago
Agree. And it is an unnecessary wall to go through for most people. Printing a Menu is really simple.
the_mullet@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
[deleted]aksdb@feddit.de 1 year ago
Having free WiFi might also be nice. But the physical copy is more versatile.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
Or, just get a cheapo used tablet and keep that in reserve for people to view the menu if needed.
AngryAnusHornets@lemmy.world 1 year ago
[deleted]Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
That’s exactly why I prefer qr. I don’t need to touch dirty menus and before anyone says that they clean them every night. Doesn’t matter, they use the same watery rag on all the menus, they may not be sticky but they sure as shit are still dirty. I’ve worked at plenty of restaurants, including ‘high end’ ones. The only way to guarantee they’re clean is to just print out a new one for each guest.
Lexica@yiffit.net 1 year ago
If the QR code was just encoded text or an image as apposed to a weblink, then this could have been avoided. Although, I’m not sure how many QR readers support images, and if your phone doesn’t have a built-in QR app nor you have a third-party one, then you’d be SOL anyways.
Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Wouldn’t it be easier to show the image than encode it in a QR?
uberrice@feddit.de 1 year ago
I don’t get how people go abroad and don’t just get a local sim. In most countries, a travel sim is something between 20 and 40 bucks. In my opinion, that’s pretty essential.
brygphilomena@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That’s not a menu! That’s a QR code!
So I threw it on the ground
DocBlaze@lemmy.world 1 year ago
and then said, That’s no QR code, that’s my wife!
Sorry wait, I’m getting it mixed up with an old boomer joke my neighbor used to tell.
Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 1 year ago
So then the bartender says “Sorry, we don’t serve QR codes here.”
samus12345@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The moral of the story is
You can’t trust the system!
Man!
(Very Lemmy take, there)
bcron@lemmy.world 1 year ago
[deleted]bob_wiley@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Alternatively, they could stop manipulating their prices so much.
imgonnatrythis@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I’m not an economist, but whlouldnt manipulated prices drive things more toward fair market value? A crusty menu meant to last a year is more likely to overshoot prices to cover market fluctuations that occur during that year. At least this is how I think of it.
qjkxbmwvz@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
Restaurants have notoriously low profit margins. Not every restaurant of course, but there’s a reason that restaurants regularly fail, especially in cities, and I don’t think it’s because the owners are spending it all on yachts.
chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
This makes me wonder whether there’s ever price discrimination going on. A system like this could give different prices based on what kind of phone you’re using if they wanted it to, and you wouldn’t necessarily know it.
Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Wh… why would they do that?
I guess maybe if a phone company is secretly paying them to, but why would a phone company go to restaurants to give their customers lower prices? And even if they did, what do they gain from that if they don’t want anyone to know?
And even if they did, the waiter would also have to take note of what kind of phone the customers use, and give them the respective price on the bill. One slip-up could reveal the scheme.
yamapikariya@lemmyfi.com 1 year ago
Just use a browser that hides useragent
kryptonicus@lemmy.world 1 year ago
How would this work though? You’re not ordering your food via the QR code link, you’re telling the waitstaff. Unless they ask you what price your saw, how are they going to correlate their variable price to a particular customer?
However, this would make it a lot easier to implement “peak pricing”. Their menu could automatically update based on time of day, or day of week, and certainly holidays.
solstice@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Related pet peeve: restaurants that have a million items for a million prices, all of them basically the same. Example: sandwich shop not far from me. Every sandwich is +|- a dollar, same with every item. Takes forever for them to ring it up and the variance is pennies. Just charge $X per sandwich and maybe markup a few premium items (roast beef, avocado, bacon whatever).
When in doubt: simplify
Astroturfed@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I think that’s a huge reason places have kept the QR codes. It’s not entirely their fault. Their costs have unstable and constantly increasing lately. Reprinting new menus with pricing adjustments on a regular basis isn’t free in a industry that’s already slim margins.
imgonnatrythis@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Presumably you can place your order via the qr code to so less risk of human error transcribing it wrong or God forbid you get one of those annoying waiters that think they have a super memory and can hold more than 8 items in short term memory and don’t even write things down.
aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 year ago
QR code menus and ordering systems are terrible IMO.
I tried to keep an open mind when encountering them at first, but especially over time they basically nullify any and all interactions you have with the waiters, and turn the restaurant from full service into something like a fast casual restaurant…yet they still prompt you for tips at the end of the meal and add additional percentage overcharge fees for “inflation” or whatever.
I don’t want a waiter to be over at my table every twenty seconds, but waiters shouldn’t be made pointless by a maître d’, a runner, and a busboy.
They’re anti-social shit dreamt up by the same kind of minds that gave us the horror that is self-checkout.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 year ago
What drives me up the wall is when it just links to a scanned image of the menu they used to have, so instead of a full sized menu, you have to pinch and zoom and swipe around on your phone. What’s the fucking point? I went to one and the menu was FOUR PAGES LONG like that! If I hadn’t been promising my daughter I’d take her, I would have walked out.
broguy89@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Folding phone works well for this. Kinda sucks that you need an $1800 device to have a decent menu viewing experience.
eestileib@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I don’t know why but the QR menus just piss me off in a service restaurant. I won’t use em (been bailed out by a date more than once).
For a counter place where they are just slinging me the food? Ok I guess. But if we’re out paying for a dinner that’ll hopefully lead to nookie, phones should be the last thing on the table.
RaoulDook@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s because there is no need to involve your personal pocket computer in their food transaction, but everybody wants to get a piece of your data with their fucking apps and customer “rewards” programs. Of course just pulling up a URL may not give them much, but it’s like they are working towards getting the tip of their data-raping dick in your pants.
And also, it’s an extra step that’s a bit of a hassle. I don’t want to have to use my phone’s browser and internet connection to read little words on a phone screen and scroll around and zoom in etc.
aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I don’t want to have to use my phone’s browser and internet connection to read little words on a phone screen and scroll around and zoom in etc.
The last place I went with a QR menu linked to a fucking PDF. It was absolutely abysmal trying to look through a phone PDF reader at a menu. Unsurprisingly, the restaurant had some of the worst service I have ever encountered in decades of eating at restaurants.
Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It shouldn’t be on the customer to have the tech to view a menu. If you’re gonna run a restaurant, have a paper menu available to customers somewhere, even if your primary menu is behind a QR-code.
scytale@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I went to a restaurant that had the barcode menu. I prefer a physical menu, but fine whatever. The problem was, there was no reception inside the restaurant, and you couldn’t connect to their wifi for whatever reason.
giantfloppycock@lemm.ee 1 year ago
This happened to me recently as well, but while traveling when I was low on data. Like ok, I will use your stupid QR code menu, but then you better provide free functional wifi.
Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Yeah I’d just walk out if the restaurant can’t afford menus
Llewellyn@lemm.ee 1 year ago
What if the restaurant can afford it, but don’t have it anyway?
samus12345@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Then I’d walk out, come back, and walk out again!
Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
The supply the tablet/phone with the digital menu. Sushi places here do it, I’m ok with that. Making me use my own device, ehhh no thanks. I might as welp provide and make my own food too.
HanDuo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I love and seek out restaurants that use online ordering and payment. I don’t need someone waiting on me. I’m in the US and they are not paid a living wage, the work is difficult with little reward. Now there is a place in my neighborhood where you sit down the QR code is table based, interaction is simple, clear and designed to work (uses Toast as the backend iirc). You order, the order stays open till you pay it’s a restaurant/bar so if you need another you don’t have to do anything but tap on your phone. They have amazing helpful servers that are paid well. You pay on your phone and leave when you are done. It’s amazing.
I think this is more about power dynamics than currency and menus. I think many people just want or more accurately demand that others (with less power) to serve them. I’ve even heard people say “it’s not my job to check me out or take my order.” Those same people treat their waitress like shit, when those waitresses are paid basically nothing to take the abuse. Then they try to weasel out of the bill. Seen it time and time again.
Now, some restaurants do poor a poor implementation of modern menus and it’s frustrating. However… long term those that do it well will win. It reduces friction and costs leading to lower prices higher margins and quicker more accurate service.
systemglitch@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I hate them. Will never go to a place that uses them.
Redredme@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Nobody will win. The waitress stays or will return and still get paid shit. The menu will get digitised because it’s cheaper. You know what less costs mean?
Higher profits.
The end.
Wake up.
HanDuo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You might want to reevaluate who needs to “wake up”. Right now the only difference I see between you and Jeff Bezos is who has the money.
There are many other successful ways to run a business. Co-ops are one example… The legal and regulatory framework of our society should encourage and reward making and encouraging pro-social ethical decisions not discourage them. I think our problem is how we treat each other - not how we order food. Ordering food is just the symptom of the greater ill.
As long as you think like Bezos, nothing will change and more of your money will flow to the rich.
Thus, why I suggest the “waking up” that needs to happen is to realize we are in an increasingly unstable dream/nightmare (depending on whether you have money or not) that we collectively need to choose a different way that truly does benefit everyone.
curiousaur@reddthat.com 1 year ago
You’re supposed to enjoy your meal, then tape a QR code to the table and say that’s your payment as you walk out.
FiskFisk33@startrek.website 1 year ago
Chais@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I am serious. And don’t call me surly.
GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 1 year ago
[deleted]Chais@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Well, duh. I know. But the original joke works because it exchanges “surely” for the homophone “Shirley.” With “Shirley” already in the title I can’t do that, so swapping it for the not-quite-homophone “surly” seemed like the next best choice.
eager_eagle@lemmy.world 1 year ago
What’s meshurley’s phone number?
ch00f@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I use a LightPhone II which has no camera. It gets me out of this bullshit all the time.
Retrograde@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Wait staff: “oh god, here’s the dude with the cameraless phone again 🙄”
c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 year ago
“How insufferable and low tipping do you think he’ll be today?”
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I was visiting family and we went to a restaurant in NC that did this and the waitress just shrugged and said “We are environmentally friendly, we don’t have paper menus. Borrow someone’s phone” and then walked away.
Questions I didnt get to ask… Like how much environmental impact does a dozen menus have? Also before you walk away… can I borrow your phone? I am not asking some stranger for the phone.
My sister ended up having a smartphone with her. We wanted to leave, but my mom wasn’t having none of it because “it would be impolite, they have already served us water”.
imgonnatrythis@lemm.ee 1 year ago
You know who else serves water mom? Prison, prison serves water. Is it impolite to leave prison!?
bob_wiley@lemmy.world 1 year ago
If I was forced to stay in a place that said that by family, I’d start getting really petty judging all the things they’re doing which have a bigger environmental impact than some menus.
Like how about the data center running the website to host the menu? Are they using paper napkins? Is anything disposable on the plate I get with my food? How does the bill arrive, is it paper? Is there food waste in the kitchen, what happens to it?
unsaid0415@szmer.info 1 year ago
Florida Man Asks For Paper Menu Without Mentioning That He In Fact Has A Phone With A Camera - “These idiots don’t even check!” He Says
Retrograde@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The onion has entered chat
Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Florida Man Crosses Crosswalk Without Waiting For The Light - Claims There Were No Cars
nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Oh yeah. I absolutely hate this new trend.
eendjes@feddit.nl 1 year ago
Doubly egregious when you have one of those annoying GDPR windows that make opting out a hassle just to view the menu. I’ve left restaurants over this.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
for bonus points, the website uses 15 web frameworks and you have to click your way to a gallery of jpeg images for every page of the menu (obviously incompatible with half the mobile browsers so none of this even attempts to render).
explodicle@local106.com 1 year ago
“You need to enable Javascript to view this site.”
For when trusting them to not leak our credit card numbers isn’t enough.
Cap@kbin.social 1 year ago
I've been to a dine-in movie theater that had QR codes for he menu. Problem is, I typically don't bring my phone to a movie AND since you can order during the movie, who wants people turning their phones on to read a menu?
MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 1 year ago
Ok. (hands out)
Waitress: …What?
Your phone?!
dan1101@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I’ll have the 4 dots in an L shape, that looks good.
secret301@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I feel that. I can’t stand this crap and I get you wanna save paper but some of us don’t bring phones everywhere we go or we just have a flip phone or a phone without service. If you really wanna save paper instead of using more paper to print out a QR code just get a chalkboard or whiteboard
jawbrakelong@lemmy.world 1 year ago
They keep trying this in our small town, and they find out.
Fades@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I have no interest in a shitty laminated menu that is most certainly not clean.
Why are people so upset about this? It could not be more simple and as it’s on the phone you can select and search for things or maybe you weren’t familiar, etc.
What are the downsides??
CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 year ago
At my age my phone is too small sized for me to be able to view a menu properly.
Now if they want to loan me a tablet to review the menu I’d be fine with that.
HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I guess I’ll have the dinosaur in the middle of the QR code
wolandark@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I fucking hate those! They spend so much money on the decoration and ads, but can’t be bothered to print 10 menus? What a BS! If a café or a restaurant is still stuck in covid times and wants to use QR codes, they should provide free Wi-Fi otherwise I’m walking out (as I have done many times) because fuck you and your barcode and your shitty management cause if i’m picking from an app I should be able to order through and pay through the same web app, there is no reason for a waiter or reception and cashier its just half assing technocracy.
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ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
I’d tell the waiter to give me their special of the day. No other questions or answers, just the special … don’t know … don’t care what it is … as long as it doesn’t make me sick, puke or have diarrhea … just give me the special.
Then I’d eat it.
Pay for it.
And never return.
Boi@reddthat.com 1 year ago
Personally I’m more along the lines of " if i have to adapt then i will" becuase going out to eat is one of the few social things i do that require touching grass and i ain’t giving it up easy.
Asifall@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I ate at an airport restaurant recently that just had a QR code that let you order online. I do think the model works well in that one specific instance. On top of being more sanitary it lets the meal move at the pace you want it to, which is pretty important if you need to catch a flight in 45 minutes.
MeddlMoe@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The last two exclusive QR Code menues I tried to use were just stupid:
One was on an island in the Adria without cell phone reception. I had to ask the waitor on his second round for the wifi password, which he did not know and supplied on his 3rd round. All of this took 20 minutes.
the other one was in an cafe mostly visited by tourists in Scotland. They had a website that was only accessible to British people since brexit, and they did not care to fix it.
clobubba@kbin.social 1 year ago
I don't often agree with boomer takes, but I agree with this one.
samus12345@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I don’t think wanting a physical menu to look at is unreasonable for any generation.
sock@lemmy.world 1 year ago
or spend like 30 minutes making a decent website i swear online menus are the most asinine thing at every restaurant.
i don’t even require a menu just give me a list with name, price, and ingredients im good. maybe a touch of heirarchy but like then im good.
Quill7513@slrpnk.net 1 year ago
I went on a date and both of our phones were dead lol
Daisyifyoudo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yeah sorry, if I can view the menu from my phone instead of touching a menu that 6000 other people have touched, without having to deal with either the server taking it away or it being in the way on my table, I don’t see why I would want or need an actual physical menu
Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I don’t see why I should need to pull up my phone to order food at a restaurant.
nicolairathjen@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The option still seems pretty nice to have.
bob_wiley@lemmy.world 1 year ago
QR codes as menus are a security risk. A bad actor could make up some stickers and put them on the table in place of the menu QR code. The code could then take the user to a malicious site, that they think they should be able to trust.
JustAnotherGuy@lemmynsfw.com 1 year ago
I’m with you on this, I live in a country where a digital menu is not a given and I hate it more than people who prefer physical menus seem to hate digital menus. I do agree that both should be available as an option
twistypencil@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Your phone is 10x dirty as a toilet seat
gvasco@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
Disagree, this ils one of those changes that not only is very hyginic but also has a juge impact on reducing the amount of work for staff.
I won’t disagree however that they could still have menus available for the instances people don’t have a smartphone or are having problems with their smartphone. However, overall the impacts are mostly positive aside from incoviniencing the customer slightly to look at the menu on their phone.
TheImplication@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The entire point of going out to eat is customer service. If I didn’t want things like this handled for me I would eat at home. “Slightly inconveniencing the customer” is not acceptable.
What’s worse is I’m now expected to tip 20% to a person that basically runs my food and fucks off. Id be fine with it if I picked up my food at a window. Why am I tipping someone so much money when all they do is deliver food? No talking, no taking an order, no checking in, not even bringing a bill. I was at a brewery recently with one of those order online and bring it to your table setups. I asked for some ketchup when they brought the food and they told me I had to order it through the website. Not going back.
FiskFisk33@startrek.website 1 year ago
I don’t want to have my device tracked by your cookies in order to eat