I just bought a Toyota and they locked a lot of features behind an app with a monthly fee, absolute fucking pricks. The whole auto industry is going to shit.
Ads are a plague
Submitted 5 weeks ago by The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world to memes@sopuli.xyz
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AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
Seeing as cars and computers are increasingly shared platforms, where is the car-hacking community? As distinct from the car-optimizing or car-modding communities.
BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 4 weeks ago
where is the car-hacking community?
In jail
AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Modern cars, I think because of safety laws and “trade secrets”, can be quite a pain the reverse engineer. It’s notoriously difficult to even interface with any of the chips in any of the onboard computers in the first place, let alone reverse engineer what’s going on and modify it. On top of that some car companies, like Toyota, are starting to add HMACs to all the messages they send on the CAN bus, so even if you did figure out everything, unless you get the signing keys every message will be ignored. On top of that, it’ll void your warrant, which I know some people don’t care about, but for a new car that you are having to depend on, its another hurdle.
CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Join and/or fund Right to Repair advocacy organizations people. For my fellow Canadians: check out CanRepair, they are currently registering members and will have their first ever AGM March 18
Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
What things are subscription?
AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
raptore39@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
What did they lock behind the paywall?
AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
The main things that bother me are maps, remote start (which can be done from the keys but it’s a pain in the ass). When you start the vehicle a screen comes up that asks you to subscribe for maps, and then Android auto connects like 50% of the time and randomly disconnects when you are driving.
Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 5 weeks ago
Is this real?
Zagorath@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
I’d take it back and demand a full refund. This is a dangerous, irresponsible product that does not fulfil the purpose it was marketed for.
boonhet@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
How do you prove any of those points for a return? Presumably they don’t show anything while in motion and it does drive so how does it not fulfill its purpose?
Instead, you can return it in 6 months when the engine is blown because it’s a piece of Stellantis garbage.
nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 4 weeks ago
No. Demand a cut of the ad revenue as they are using your property as a billboard.
tiramichu@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Yes, its real
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
yep, the good thing about capitalism is we can now watch it pivot away from jeep 😃
Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Like when everyone pivoted away from gas stations that play ads on the screens? People will keep buying their emotional support SUVs, they don’t care.
LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I can deal with ad when watching TV or YouTube. But ads in the car, even while stopped, is just begging for someone to get killed. Will never even consider getting a jeep. I’m probably gonna have to get a new car in a couple of years and I want something new, but dumb. I want as little smart shit as possible, which is probably not going to be a thing.
bearboiblake@pawb.social 4 weeks ago
I can deal with ad when watching TV or YouTube.
i can’t! i really hate ads, they’re so loud and obnoxious, they’re like jump scares every time they come on! ugh! this car would be like my idea of a nightmare!
LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I use ad breaks in vids to answer texts/emails or take a piss or whatever. Intrusive ads that take up entire pages on a site are the worst tho. Those can fuck off.
Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
Those are full page ads with audio. It’s amazing how you can disregard that.
MisanthropiCynic@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
The ads aside, nothing from the Stellantis family should be on your radar anyway
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Get an old Jeep 40s-2001 were prim- ya know what don’t get an old Jeep. I don’t want the competition.
Snowclone@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
How hard up for money could they possibly be? It’s such an insane move.
Zip2@feddit.uk 4 weeks ago
There’s still Caterhams and Ginettas.
Although on second thoughts they’re probably not allowed in a country where the inhabitants can’t be trusted with a Kinder surprise egg.
DrownedRats@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Agreed. Designing in a feature that presents users with something that’s deliberately designed to be as distracting and attention grabbing as possible during a time when they should have their undivided attention on driving is asking for trouble.
On that note, LED billboards run up along the side of roads should be illegal and at very least have dimmers to prevent them from blinding drivers at night.
SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
It ain’t right.
But i also don’t get why people are still buying Jeeps? Most cursory search while doing research for a new vehicle should bring up red flags quick.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
It’s a kink thing you wouldn’t understand
SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
No, that’s an engine knock
Empricorn@feddit.nl 4 weeks ago
So… masochism?
Speculater@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
They wave to each other! Owners of Jeeps wave to each other, as if you say, “look we’re both suckers together.” Look up Jeep owners waving.
this_1_is_mine@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
They give each other ducks…
Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
You’re making the mistake of viewing a car as a reliable means of transport and not a way to show off how cool and rugged you are.
VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz 5 weeks ago
I would never buy a jeep anyways, but thanks for the warning,
Empricorn@feddit.nl 4 weeks ago
I’m not buying Jeeps… But harder now.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 weeks ago
The best thing about Saint Luigi is that weirdos don’t have to endorse an incel eco-fascist like Teddy K to call for “direct action.”
the_q@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Just buy an old Japanese Honda or Toyota and keep it running forever. No one needs a “new” cat at this point.
Raiderkev@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Fr, they scratch up your furniture too
the_q@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Doh!
GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
“Wanna be furious every time you stop?”
“BUY A JEEP.”
Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
*BONUS ongoing electrical problems AND rust
kalpol@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
It really makes me sad, jeeps used to be awesome till Chrysler started getting bought out, around 2000. It was like when the AMC 4.0 and the Chrysler 318 went, so went Jeep.
Yes, they are inefficient, and slow, that’s not the point, you could offroad in a ZJ with 250k miles on it and be ok.
selokichtli@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Wait until Musk gets permission to use their Neuralink chips world wide!
MBech@feddit.dk 4 weeks ago
With the opposition he’s facing in the EU, no matter how safe it’ll be (lol), it’ll never be introduced.
noxypaws@pawb.social 4 weeks ago
Stellantis? More like Stale Anus
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
Everytime
Not a word. Nice journalism grad.
The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I’m seeing very simple grammatical mistakes in articles more and more. It’s bizarre. Even if the author makes a mistake, where are the editors? Do we have a shortage of English majors somehow?
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 4 weeks ago
It kind of makes the article seem more human? 🤣
OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
It only matters that ads get impressions. That’s it
Kichae@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
What is and is not a word? If it’s being used by writers, and is understood by readers, it kinda is a word.
Linguistics is a desceiptive field, not a prescriptive one.
emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
I thonk this one is pretty forgivable. Everytime should be a word imo. It has a lot more justification than some of the words that have recently been added and accepted into common use and vernacular. Everywhere, everyone, everyday, everybody are all words and set a hell of a precedent. How is everytime different, besides being a poster word for pedants to pick at.
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 4 weeks ago
Lang shift has snuck up on us, tsk.
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Buelldozer@lemmy.today 5 weeks ago
Just Stellantis doing Stellantis things.
Snowclone@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Careful with ol Ted there, all his good points were accidental, dude bombed university offices because he heard a plane fly over in the woods.
Nfamwap@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Reason 2378 to never buy a Stellantis vehicle
BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Somewhat related to how bad it is at that company right now:
Yesterday my brother and I drove by a brand new Jeep Wrangler (had a new car plate) that looked like a 24 or 25 that was burnt to the ground from the engine (my guess as the burning was much worse there than the cabin.) Emergency services were there still putting water on the engine bay but the ambulances were already gone. Hopefully everyone is okay.
PokerChips@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
It’s a trend with jeeps. I already know 2 people that have had the burnt Jeep phenomenon
BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Damn, that sucks. Hope they’re all okay!
Bytemeister@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
It’s the only way to get your money back.
DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
“Hi I’m here about your cars extended warranty…”
Ronno@feddit.nl 4 weeks ago
The NCAP score for these should be -5, no way that is safe!
MisterD@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Maybe pull the fuse for internet
fckreddit@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Turning everything you use into a fucking ads platform is peak capitalism. Burn it with fire.
freebee@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Consumer already paid for the damn vehicle. At least market that ad-bullshit as the cheaper freemium rental version and offer a no ads purchase version… They are not at all thinking about the consumer, only about filling their ever growing pockets.