Then the menu is a broken webpage with “old” prices and the restaurant tries to charge you more than the menu prices. I thought the point of these were to be easily updated.
Guess I'll starve
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dudeami0@lemmy.dudeami.win 4 days ago
mp3@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
Restaurant: Best I can do is a PDF to which I don’t have the original to update it anymore.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Nah, a series of JPEGS. Which are displayed in a little Javascript carousel, which automatically flips the pages every 7 seconds without any user input and can’t be stopped from doing so.
You laugh. There’s actually a restaurant around here whose website works that way. You have to kill the script from console if you don’t want to drive yourself insane.
TheBat@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Why not use a blackboard on the wall for prices that change everyday? Why everything needs to be unnecessarily complicated?
Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 4 days ago
Because a guy can only sell you a blackboard one time, and you can get chalk anywhere. When it’s online, some tech company can sell you their Menu-as-a-Service every month.
Why would a restaurant pay for that? Look elsewhere in this thread for the story of the boss that thinks QR codes are magic spells or something.
Akasazh@feddit.nl 4 days ago
Generally the best places to eat is where the have a simple single white A4 print out of a menu on a clipboard.
aeronmelon@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Once, I was given a real menu and then told to use the QR code to place an order.
I said, “No.”
“But you have to.”
“Haha, no.
I showed her what I wanted and put the menu back in her hands. She left dejected and returned wordlessly with my food.
Don’t be a technocrat when I’m hungry.
Rooty@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I could understand using qr codes in a self service restaurant, but when the server is right here? This reeks of the owner being wormtongued by a salesman.
kungen@feddit.nu 4 days ago
So the business still got your money? I guess it’s a difficult decision when one’s hungry.
eager_eagle@lemmy.world 4 days ago
type “LMAO”, show her the phone with a dead serious face and leave
Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Borderline germaphobe here. Get that disgusting, sticky menu as far away from my food or my fingers as possible. I fucking love the QR code menus.
That said, if it directs me to the app store, I’m not only leaving, but you’re getting a 1-star review. I’d take the germs over that bullshit any day.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 4 days ago
[deleted]Raiderkev@lemmy.world 4 days ago
There’s a classic burger joint near me that’s been around generations. A few years ago the quality dipped, and eventually it got sold to a restauranteur who’s done well in the area. They really turned it around. Service, food, cleanliness was all night and day to the previous owner. Then they became a victim of their own success. They wanted to make more money so instead of being a sir wherever you like, order from the counter place, now it was table service only with a strict 90 minute time maximum. The outdoor games that the kids loved have been shelved for more tables. The menus are all on QR codes, and you can only pay through your phone. I walked up to the empty bar one day to order a beer. “Sorry sir, you have to order from your phone, I can’t even process payments here.” So instead of drinking 3 or 4 readily available beers, I got 1 that the server took forever to bring. They include a default gratuity even though they are doing the absolute bare minimum when it comes to service. The food is still phenomenal, but I absolutely hate going and will pick a place I know is not as good to not have to put up with this place.
Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 days ago
Username checks out
umbraroze@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Me: “Oh I’m fine with scanning QR codes for menus, actually.”
[QR code goes to Facebook]
Me: “Guess I’ll starve after all.”AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I would leave a negative review, and tell the GM off for Us ng fascist platforms
lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 days ago
If it just takes me to a website with the menu, fine.
If it takes me to the app store, no.
aeronmelon@lemmy.world 4 days ago
An app which is just a webview of the site.
eager_eagle@lemmy.world 4 days ago
How else are they supposed to pester you with notifications?
Oaksey@lemmy.world 4 days ago
But then they typically still want your name, address, phone number, email address, gender, etc.
I just want some food.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
I’ve worked in Tech for 30 years, done software development in enough areas and at a sufficient senior level to be able to implement the whole QR code support, both coding and systems design, all the way from an App in a smartphone taking a picture and translating into a URL, to the webserver and if needed database on the other side including if needed an ordering system integrated with some internal order request system.
If I was faced with this I would ask for them bringing me or show me a menu. If they said “no” I would literally get up and leave.
I’m not going to be spending time mucking about with my phone to read in it’s comparativelly small screen something they could have available in an A4 piece of paper or an even larger format hanging from somewhere in the restaurant just to, at best, save them a few cents or, at worst, satisfying somebody’s totally misplaced idea that Tech is cool just for being Tech.
If there is one thing 3 decades in the Industry, often at the bleeding edge of Tech have taught me is that Tech isn’t necessarilly the best solution for everything and that being newer doesn’t make something better and I’m not interested in being the beta tester for some half-arsed solution which serves most customers’ requirements worse than the older solution.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 4 days ago
somebody’s totally misplaced idea that any Tech is cool just for being Tech
Nah, it’s worse than that. It’s somebody’s totally awful idea that they can meddle with their menu prices in real-time and do “surge pricing” and other schemes to rip you off. If they committed to a paper menu they would have to honor that printed price in most jurisdictions, which would preclude them from such shenanigans.
Johanno@feddit.org 4 days ago
Digital menu
Pros: You can change it at any time, no problem. You can let them order digital and the register automatically checks in the order.
Cons: can’t read shit on a smartphone.
Solution: Big tablet for each table. Now everybody can read it.
But you have to spend a lot more on tablets than you would 5 years printing new menus.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
Yupes.
My problem is that for me as a customer their chosen “solution” (me using my phone to see their easy to change menu) provides me no gain whatsoever whilst adding hassle. There are various possible options they could’ve gone with (blackboard, digital system with tablets for customers, printed piece of paper) with various balances of cost and ease-to-change and they chose the one that maximizes their advantages, minimizes their cost (and maybe it doesn’t even do that properly compared to, say, a blackboard) and increases hassle for customers.
In other words, in their requirements for the solution they’ve chosen to use, they focused entirelly on what was best for them and screw the customer, and if I have a choice I’m not going to bring my custom to a business which has activelly chosen to make my life more of a hassle purelly for their own gain.
Even though they’re using Tech for what they’re doing, the actual problem for customers is a Tech-agnostic “they did what was best for themselves and made the customer experience worse”, and maybe because of my immense familiarity with Tech I really don’t get dazzled by there being lots of Tech in their choise and just look at it from a “what does it do for me” point of view (a way of looking at business practices which itself derives from my professional experience: since I both worked on and implemented Business Requirements so got used to look at systems from a “what does this provide to the user” angle as part of the work of designing tech implementations of such systems).
jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
“Are you using the app today?”
“No.”
Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 4 days ago
There are only three ways to get me to leave a 1-star review.
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This shit
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A screen on the card machine begging for tips. Fuck right off
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Brioche does not a burger bun make, Oli or Tom or whatever your wanky hipster name is
Shapillon@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Is the brioche in your third point sweet?
Here in France brioche is kinda like cake bread: flour, salt, yeast, sugar, eggs, a fuckton of butter.
InputZero@lemmy.world 4 days ago
In America all bread is so full of sugar that it’s all cake bread. Brioche in America is a cake bun.
Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 4 days ago
Last one I had was in Lyon, coincidentally! Genève before that
b000rg@midwest.social 3 days ago
Living in the US, the last time I tried to buy “Brioche” bread (Sara Lee was the brand), it was just like eating a sandwich made with a dense shortbread.
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radiohead37@lemmynsfw.com 4 days ago
I’m nowhere that old and I still make the same face when a restaurant doesn’t have paper menus.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
I just “love” how scammers and the such have started plastering their own QR codes over legit ones. You scan a public QR code and go to a fake website.
Whenever QR code accessible site that asks your information should NOT be used as there is a legit chance that some scammer will be receiving your info instead of the actual site
watson387@sopuli.xyz 4 days ago
Yeah, as soon as I saw that I’d be headed somewhere else to eat.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 4 days ago
I will not. I refuse to get a smartphone.
StitchIsABitch@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Lol you people are so edgy, don’t worry you’re very cool with your stories of rejecting menus and being a dick to waiters who have no say in the matter.
No wonder COVID had no trouble spreading if everyone is so insistent on holding soggy stained menus in their hands. I love digital menus, don’t need to touch anything, there’s enough for everyone, why the need to always be a contrarian?
Now go ahead and downvote me, my
bodyaccount is readyBruncvik@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Not everyone has smartphones. And speaking of Covid, not having a smartphone bit me in the arse because many businesses only accepted digital vaccination certs. I survived that, though, and I’ll survive not giving business to places that require you to have a smartphone.
Sergio@slrpnk.net 4 days ago
“I only have a work phone. I’m not supposed to do those.”
jollyjaguar@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
Maybe I’m in the minority but I will often choose a restaurant that lets me order from the table over one which requires talking to a human…
Evotech@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Yeah holy shit. Qr codes are fire. Especially during summer, you go out to a place, seat yourself outsider order a beer from your phone and it shows up.
Nice for me, nice for staff.
Demdaru@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I am in for similiar stuff everywhere I can…but if restaurant tries to make itself “QR-only”, I’m leaving. I don’t care. I go to eat out for experience. So by removing this experience, you remove me.
I’d appreciate QR and online orders being an option, but do not force it.
ryan213@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
I’ve only been to one restaurant that had that and I was able to order online. It was a good experience for me.
planish@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
You can print out QR codes to Rick Astley videos.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
I have a couple restaurant apps on my phone. These are for takeout or delivery type places like Domino’s Pizza or Sheetz. In that context, it’s a genuine upgrade. Like, i can either drive to Sheetz, type my order into the kiosk there, and wait the whole time they’re preparing it, OR I can place the order from home on my phone, and they’ll prepare it as I’m driving there.
At a sit-down restuarant, what are you trying to do? Trying to use that instead of the waitstaff for ordering or paying…some customers are going to and some aren’t. There’s a procedure people understand about eating at a restaurant, and now you’re throwing a wrench in it for…what? The ability to update the menu without printing a whole bunch of them, somewhere to write down the specials so the waitstaff doesn’t have to remember them, or “because technology?”
And at something with counter service like a deli? Fuck off.
dan1101@lemm.ee 4 days ago
I took my elderly aunt to eat and she couldn’t navigate the menu at all on a phone screen. I don’t like it either.
doingthestuff@lemy.lol 4 days ago
I can’t even read my phone without reading glasses and when I’m off of work I often purposely don’t bring them with me. I’d be asking about their accessibility accommodations.
BothsidesistFraud@lemmy.world 4 days ago
If I’m going out to eat somewhere, it’s mostly because I’m out to socialize or get away from screens. The last thing I want when I sit down at a restaurant is for everyone at the table to get out their phones. I can’t think of a dumber way to undermine restaurant socializing. Just charge me the $0.03 it cost to print the menu.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Fun with QR codes! Two things are on the top of my mind today.
My boss loves QR codes. He wants to put a QR code on every single publication we print, for any reason, or often for no reason. To this day, he does not understand that QR codes are not magic, and all they contain is a link. I can’t make the QR code “do” this, that, and the third thing he wants; I have to program our web site to do whatever it is. When he is explaining what he wants, he is inevitably tracing his fingers around in the air making a box shape, as if this means anything.
His latest brainwave was trying to make me put QR codes on internet banner ads. Which are displayed on the viewer’s screen. ~90% of which are viewing on their mobile device to begin with. I had to explain to him using small easily understandable words that you cannot make a phone take a picture of itself. (Yes, I left the topic of screenshots out of it.) The fact that the banner ad is not only inherently clickable but being clickable is really rather the entire point, and this click directs the user to anywhere we want – say, the same place as his mythical QR code – did not sink in for him.
He also doesn’t get that merely generating the pixels of the QR code does not automatically create the landing page and all of its content. He also doesn’t grok that, to the nearest decimal place, nobody scans the fucking things on our literature anyway. Like I don’t track that kind of thing.
But I have a theory as to why, now. Thing the second is that just today I had a customer tell me, “I won’t scan them QR code things because I saw on the news they’re all controlled by the Chinese government.” (Our quotes have a QR code at the top you can use to view the products therein on our web site without having to type anything. It’s practically the only genuinely useful thing we do with them.) I had to demonstrate to him right there and then that the QR code is literally just a block of text, and you can see every single damn fool character in it before you visit whatever link it is if you feel like it and/or don’t trust it. Our QR codes clearly just go to our web site, with a ?products=[list] tacked on to the end of the URL.
I am positive he didn’t get it.
I’m positive my boss still doesn’t get it, either.
Whatever, it all pays the same.
Atropos@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I dare you to make a QR code for something that hotlinks to another QR png!
Akasazh@feddit.nl 4 days ago
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TheBat@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Most bosses like this in tech are dazzled by sales team but what got your boss to get such hard-on for QR codes?
blackbirdbiryani@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Jesus christ it must be painful working for such a massive moron.
Turret3857@infosec.pub 4 days ago
Im so sorry. i dont know how you dont go bald from pulling your hair out
CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
On my phone, you don’t need to screenshot to use QR codes. I can just use the Google Lens app to scan it, or reverse image search something without even closing my Brave browser.
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Atleast on IOS, holding your finger over an image with a QR code will activate the QR code, so he’s not entirely off his rocker dude….
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Sure, but in this context guess what happens if you don’t hold and you just tap it.
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The same thing, but with fewer steps.
cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 4 days ago
And a lot of people don’t have Iphone or, as I do, have phones that don’t have such capabilities (I expect that this type of stuff is present in modern android phones but mine doesn’t has such stuff).