This is just the AI bias showing through: It’s all that training.
Carcinisation?
Submitted 5 months ago by Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net to [deleted]
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riskable@programming.dev 5 months ago
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 5 months ago
So what you’re saying is the optimal form is some kind of crab train?
rothaine@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Hey there 👋, I know you mean well by that comment, like I get it, I do. ☺️ But I just wanted to let you know:
THERE HAVE BEEN ZERO STUDIES DONE ON THE SAFETY OF CRAB TRAINS.
ZERO.
But despite that, they are gaining widespread support, and now even people like yourself are calling them “optimal.”
Listen: Someone I know lost an arm in the pincer mechanism of one of these trains. More work needs to be done before we can consider them safe, nevermind “optimal”. Don’t buy into the techbro BS.
Friends don’t let friends crab train.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Hey, when the train needs blood the train gets blood
Frozengyro@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Choo choo Charlie intensifies
Akasazh@feddit.nl 5 months ago
As a tf2 player. A crab train is majestic.
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Trains only move forward and back. Crabs only move side to side. It only makes sense.
ceenote@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Do you hear that, Mr. Anderson? That is the sound of inevitability.
nonfuinoncuro@lemm.ee 5 months ago
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 months ago
the last time I gave factorio a serious run was waaaay back in its beta, before it was even finished and had an end game.
its just gotten so complicated since then that I get overwhelmed, especially when you start to scale up and realize you fucked something up and have to undo an entire day of shit to move something 2 tiles or something.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Bots can do that shit. Ctrl+X, select, move the two tiles, place. Realize that’s still a tile off on the Y axis, and repeat. The bots don’t complain.
nonfuinoncuro@lemm.ee 5 months ago
embrace the spaghetti 🍝
OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
This was me but I tried it a year ago 😂
7toed@midwest.social 5 months ago
ELEVATED RAILS my BELOVED ❤️
rumba@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
rivenb@lemmy.world 5 months ago
The children inside make it scary
rumba@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
I know right are they passengers, or are they stomach contents. And is the remaining full difference between the two
cliffracerflyyy@lemm.ee 5 months ago
They make everything scary.
cliffracerflyyy@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Okay I laughed while my exoskeleton genes got activated.
iAvicenna@lemmy.world 5 months ago
the perfect transportation does not e-
Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Sharing because I was delighted to learn this: trees are also an example of convergent evolution. I’m personally rooting for us to become trees. Pun intended.
peopleproblems@lemmy.world 5 months ago
That seems unfairly obvious, but I certainly didn’t consider it before.
Wofls@feddit.org 5 months ago
Okay so now we are looking at some kind of tree-crab-train as the crown of creation, am I understanding this correctly?
Lumisal@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Sounds like a creature from All Tomorrows
dondelelcaro@lemmy.world 5 months ago
There’s likely some cases of convergent evolution, but I’m not sure this is settled for all trees.
I’d suspect that at least some trees with close relatives that are shrubs have re-enabled genes that enable the tree phenotype rather that independently evolving the tree phenotype.
But still really cool (and maybe turns on exactly how much evolution your consider needs to happen before it’s convergent evolution.)
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Minimum rolling friction by having hard wheels on a hard surface. Minimum wind resistance by making it long and narrow. Minimum stop time by having big doors.
BAM: train.
404@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Even the slime mold knows it: nationalgeographic.com/…/slime-mould-attacks-simu…
racemaniac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
I know it’s a shitpost, but i hate that people interpret carcinisation as a crab being the ultimate piece of evolution.
When learning evolution like algorithms in computer science, one of the first things you learn is strategies to not get stuck in locally optimal solutions (solutions that seem the best when you look at other nearby solutions, but are worse than other solutions if you allow your algorithm to look further away).
Crabs seem like that, it’s just an easy defensive evolution that then stagnates in a form that kind of works. Seeing how many crabs we eat, and how few crabs eat us, it’s obvious that crabs aren’t the actual pinnacle of evolution, just some locally optimal solution that evolution tends to get stuck in :p.
Syd@lemm.ee 5 months ago
I understand your point but some of history’s most well known and powerful figures have been consumed by crabs. Amelia Earhart and countless other well known examples through history show the crab threat is much more present and real than you imply.
ilega_dh@feddit.nl 5 months ago
This is why I stopped shitposting, too many sweats
doortodeath@lemmy.world 5 months ago
We will see (or not) who has the last laugh, crabs or homo sapiens sapiens?
Syd@lemm.ee 5 months ago
It’s gonna be homo sapiens unless crabs evolve laughter.
driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 5 months ago
Like came back in a million years. Bet crabs are going to be still around while we’ll already extinct.
Gloomy@mander.xyz 5 months ago
After several days of what I can only describe as ill-informed pro crab propaganda posts all over lemmy I realy needed this. Thank you.
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Exactly. It’s a local minimum/maximum optimization problem as applied to genetics and evolution.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Well, the automotive industry has been working on making self driving a thing, and I recall when they first tried to tackle the problem of lane keeping.
The first proposal was to embed magnets or similar into the road surface that the car could have a set of sensors for to determine if it was drifting left or right in its lane.
Motherfucker, that’s just a virtual track for your dumb four-wheeled mini-train.
It didn’t catch on, but AFAIK it was implemented in small areas as a trial and it performed adequately given the technology of the time.
So I’m out here going, why the fuck are we pretending that vehicles are not just rail-free personal trains?
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
The first proposal was to embed magnets or similar into the road surface that the car could have a set of sensors for to determine if it was drifting left or right in its lane.
That’s a thing for forklifts since what, half of last century? Even better, they use a wire with a set frequency instead of magnets, it’s called wire guidance system.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
TIL. Thanks for that. I wonder what frequency they use…
rumba@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
That’s the end game for self-driving cars. They can drive close enough together to draft, efficiency goes way up. If a problem happens ahead, they communicate back so that pileups don’t happen.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
IMO, the big strength with self driving cars, if we ever get there is that level of car to car communication. The vehicle will be able to communicate ahead and see the best possible route, and where there’s congestion etc, then optimize the drive to avoid unnecessary delays.
A big problem with human drivers is the tenancy for ghost traffic jams to occur. There was a test they did with about 10-20 drivers of all varieties put into cars and told to drive a circle track, following eachother. No other instructions were given. All they need to do was keep distance in front of them and everything would be fine, what was observed was that some drivers went more quickly than others, and would brake to a near stop when they came close to the person in front. In doing so, everyone ended up basically in stop and go conditions.
IMO, that test exemplifies the problem with human drivers. Put enough of them on the same road and given enough drivers and enough time, traffic/congestion will create slowdowns that otherwise shouldn’t exist.
Taking people out of the equation means that all of the cars can accelerate at the same time and travel in tight packs, so merges are effortless because the entire system is working together to ensure that merging vehicles are able to merge (allowing sufficient space for them to merge), and perhaps more importantly, the merging cars will match pace with the flows of traffic already traveling on the road. Those are the two main tenants of a zipper merge. Find space to merge into, and match pace with the vehicles in the lane you are merging into. Seems that a lot of people forget that last bit.
So rush hour nonsense will at least be reduced.
buttfarts@lemy.lol 5 months ago
I am looking for intersections with two catepillars of drafting vehicles that slightly intersperse to cross each other at right angles by microtiming the gaps to avoid collisions by microseconds.
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Self driving taxis aren’t an awful solution for last-mile transport. Trains can’t take you door to door, and walking isn’t always a good option (people with mobility issues, inclement weather, etc).
Key word being “taxis”. They don’t need to be in every individual’s garage.
roguetrick@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Train cars are crabs. They’ve got an exoskeleton, they’re squat bodied, many legged, and have pincers on either side. All they have to do is start moving that body plan around some and they will be crabs.
jawsua@lemmy.one 5 months ago
Checks out: while they CAN move forward, they highly prefer to move side to side
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 months ago
More like Carcinstation!
nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 5 months ago
Cars in a station?
Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 5 months ago
IDK how but I actually thought the title was this pun when I first read it. It was only after reading your comment that I realized that OP didn’t actually cash in on the joke (skill issue, smh).
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 months ago
You appear to have downvoted yourself.
shalafi@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Ha! I was thinking along these lines reading science fiction the other day. In every novel where stuff has to get moved overland, it’s always a train. No matter their tech level, trains are the simplest, most efficient solution.
TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 5 months ago
Crab-spotting is completely undervalued as a cultural activity.
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 5 months ago
That girl had a crab ran on her last party.
rational_lib@lemmy.world 5 months ago
There’s two kinds of ground transportation: off-roading, and should be a train.
teije9@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
the Dutch train system is so incredibly cool, you can get from one end to another end of the ‘main’ part of the Netherlands in an hour and its so easy to just get to any station anywhere and then you can just go everywhere for so incredibly cheap. Literally the only thing you need to get anywhere in the Netherlands is a bike and something to buy train tickets with. You dont even need to buy tickets, you can just tap your debit card on the gates in the entrance station and then tap it when you exit and it just handles everything for you
glaber@lemm.ee 5 months ago
you can even tap on sone bikes to rent them. everyone saying owning a car makes you free can suck it
GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Well if every vehicle becomes autonomous then isn’t that just a large scaled high speed train?
rockerface@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Yes. That is the point. Trains are optimal.
zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Inter-vehicle cooperation and autonomy makes highways act like trains, yes, with a bunch of unnecessary steps
MBM@lemmings.world 5 months ago
A less efficient train, because it has a bunch of small engines and batteries instead of one big one
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
But you don’t have to smell unshowered people. I’m willing to sacrifice earth climate for my nose good.
cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 5 months ago
I also really like that every time I see some dumb idea to “improve vehicles” there a long comment chain improving it even further into a train.
Kowowow@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
With how bad semis rut the road I’ve been wanting to see them with retractable train wheels on the back
Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 5 months ago
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermodal_container this is kinda the same idea… same container can be transferred from ship to rail to truck
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 5 months ago
If trains were optimal, they’d have pincers.
roguetrick@lemmy.world 5 months ago
sukhmel@programming.dev 5 months ago
Look how sweet, they’re holding
handspincers
Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 5 months ago
And on the first day multivac said LET THERE BE TRAINS
Habib@lemm.ee 5 months ago
BTC at $101k
passiveaggressivesonar@lemmy.world 5 months ago
We are the simulation and everywhere we’ve evolved to using trains of some form, with a few very notable exceptions
tlekiteki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
least funny meme of 2017
Halosheep@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Why does Lemmy and reddit love trains so much? They could solve some travel problems in some but are we expecting tracks to run literally everywhere and into every suburb? What about rural places?
Habib@lemm.ee 5 months ago
~___~
Reygle@lemmy.world 5 months ago
One could almost say that Trains are good.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 months ago
That’s not true I likewise “invented” a blimp. With sails so it can really catch the wind.
FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world 5 months ago
“we heavily biased the network against trains and now it’s just saying the optimal car consists of several metal struts connecting just two thinned out wheels that the driver sits on top of and propels themselves using pedals. It was busy redesigning intersections to have clear safe lanes for these bi-cycle ‘cars’ with plenty of trees / room for pedestrians when we pulled the plug…”
257m@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Even in bike racing the optimal form ends being to become a train. A peloton is just a train made up of bikes.
roguetrick@lemmy.world 5 months ago
And then imagine if instead of wheels a bicycle was on a track with even greater reduced rolling resistance than skinny overinflated tires and didn’t require lumbar strength for balance.