Mushroom Guides

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• superkret@feddit.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You can easily tell them apart by cutting them with a knife: The false brown cap will show blue discoloration under ultraviolet light if the soil contains manganese at >20% bioavailable water content, and the temperature didn’t drop below 12 degrees Celsius in the past month.

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  • NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s good, I don’t want to bleed out my ass and deserve it.

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    • _stranger_@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If you do all the tests and still die bleeding out your ass, they might update the test and rename it after you.

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  • Spacehooks@reddthat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s a few check boxes that need to be filled so I Don’t die.

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  • Bertuccio@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    stronger

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  • Gigasser@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Spore prints can be useful for identification too

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• wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  A general rule is if it has spores instead of gills, you’re probably in the clear.

  Except for that one in Europe, that shit will megadeath you.

  In all seriousness, the general rule I’ve heard for foraging wild unknown things is:

  • cut it open and rub it on your skin, wait an hour, if it gives you a reaction, stop here.
  • touch it to your lips, wait a while, if it gives you a reaction, stop here
  • touch it to your tongue, wait a while, if it gives you a reaction, stop here
  • chew a bit and spit it out, wait a while, if it gives you a reaction, stop here
  • swallow a small amount, if it gives you discomfort, stop here
  • if you’ve made it this far, it’s likely ok, do so at your own risk tolerance

  Roots are generally OK, particularly if you have access to double boil them.

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  • Obi@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s interesting, my general rule for foraging wild unknown things is: don’t.

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    • CluckN@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Imagine dying for a D tier pizza topping

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  • _stranger_@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There was a guy a few years ago who tried to live off grid. He died, having left behind a journal detailing his final days. In it, he logged the exact process you outlined above for various things he foraged, which included wild potato seeds. Turns out those things pass all the above tests, but that builds up over time that no one really knew about. Poor guy starved because he was too weak to even crawl.

    nature be scary fellow humans. Be careful out there.

    theverge.com/…/into-the-wild-author-reveals-chris…

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    • Zron@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      He also wandered into the Alaskan wilderness with basically just a sack of rice and a .22lr rifle.

      He was a a couple miles from safety the entire time, but did not buy a map so believed he was stranded when the river rose and cut off the main trail. But there was another trail with a raised cable crossing over the river a few miles upstream.

      He was totally unprepared and essentially just committed extended suicide. The fact that he remembered some basic tips from a Boy Scout handbook doesn’t mean he was an expert. Kid was an idiot who got in way over his head.

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    • Hardy@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That some guy ISNT JUST ANY GUY! 😤

      • Documentaries were made about him
      • A very successful movie was made about him “Into the wild”
      • Countless Youtubers keep making videos about him; Thoughty2 made a very good video about him…

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  • Shard@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    For mushrooms the only good advice is, if you don’t know what you are doing, don’t go foraging for mushrooms. Rules and guidelines that apply for one region might not work for another. The risk reward never works out if you’re inexperienced. You either get a tasty treat or incurable certain death. It’s not a great gamble.

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    • wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Sure, and I suppose you’re going to advise me not to do my own electrical home wiring either. 😛

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    • riskable@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You either get a tasty treat bland, mild dirt flavor or incurable certain death.

      FTFY

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    • psud@aussie.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The people who die from death cap mushrooms here (Canberra, Australia) all learnt about mushrooms in another country, where death caps don’t grow, but an edible mushroom that looks just like them does

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  • Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Here’s a general rule for foraging mushrooms; don’t use “general rules”.

    Also; “don’t eat it if it bruises blue”, you’ll miss out on all the fun ones with this advice.

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    • Cordyceps@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah, atleast here in northern part of europe we have multiple shrooms that bruise blue and are still edible. I recomend getting a mushroom foraging guide book of your area, and first getting familiar with all the ones that can seriously hurt you.

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    • shneancy@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      the blue ones can be the funnest ones

      though perhaps not when you’re wildly unprepared for the things they will show you (and also, though I have yet to try them myself, probably not the best for dinner since everyone says they taste like shit)

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  • sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    don’t eat it if it bruises blue

    Or do if you’re up for an interesting time and it passes the test above. Eat about three grams for some nice sights and 6 before sitting in a dark, cool took to meet something unknown

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    • xantoxis@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If it bruises blue, cut off a very thin slice from the center of the stalk and put it on agar until it creates mycellium. There’s some other stuff you need after that which I’ll be happy to help you with.

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    • ryannathans@aussie.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I don’t think there are any harmful mushrooms that bruise blue but would love for an expert to chime in here

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  • snooggums@midwest.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I am by no means an expert. I’m just a rando guy from Appalachia with some wild ass Russian buds and we do some funky shit down here. Take everything I say with as much trust as you give to anyone on the Internet.

    Best disclaimer ever.

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  • LiveLM@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    you’re probably in the clear. Except for that one

    Looks like the meme is accurate

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  • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    the general rule is “look up what is 100% safe and trivial to identify with 0 toxic lookalikes in your area, from several sources you trust with your life. Don’t touch anything else out there.”

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  • NationProtons@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Do you mean ‘pores instead of gills’ ? I think all mushrooms produce spores, no?

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    • wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You are correct, bad typo. Corrected

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  • deus@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Roots might be safe if you can double boil them??? Jesus christ, I guess I’m never touching wild mushrooms ever.

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    • wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Roots, not mycelium, sorry if that was confusing.

      Don’t eat mycelium.

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  • Whelks_chance@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Pretty sure those general rules are given to the SAS for when dropped behind enemy lines in a jungle setting. I think I heard it from a Ray Mears book.

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  • flora_explora@beehaw.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The mushrooms from the bolete family here in Germany often stain blue (or some other color) when bruised but most are very good mushrooms for eating. For example, Imleria badia, Neoboletus erythropus and Suillus grevillei. The last one is even slimy but you can just remove the cap. (There is also this really tasty gill-having mushroom Lactarius deliciosus that stains green). Also, Armillaria can do bioluminescence but are also edible! I agree with checking for fungi infections of mushrooms and to learn to ID the deadly poisonous Amanita species (funnily enough, there are some really good edible ones in the same genus!).

    Your guide to carefully test foraged organisms is definitely helpful. However, when foraging mushrooms you have to keep in mind some additional things. Many, if not most mushrooms are really toxic when eaten raw! People frequently get poisoned while eating edible mushrooms that are not cooked enough. They apparently often contain hemolysins. Also, there are a few tasty mushrooms that can be toxic if eaten in combination with alcohol. If you go foraging mushrooms, better try to learn some groups, how to distinguish them and what are their characteristics than trying to test by your body’s reaction. But yeah, if you were to be without any food in the wild maybe it helps to know how to test for edibility.

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    • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      also even completely safe raw mushrooms are kinda difficult for us to digest, especially when not used to it, so do be prepared for some stomach annoyances if you pick 5 liters of boletes and chow down on it…

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    • wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      All good points, your comment deserves a whole lot more upvotes.

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  • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Interesting, but nature is a kaleidoscope and evolution isn’t linear. Mushroom rules like this tend to be super regional and even then, take it with a grain of salt.

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  • nucleative@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No clue if you have any idea what you’re talking about but appreciate the Information dump. If I’m ever near death from hunger but surrounded by forest floor growths I’ll try to remember this.

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  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Except for that one in Europe

    Joke, but poisonous mushrooms here are either quite distinct (lol Dickfuss) or give you a mild stomache ache. Well, except the section with mushrooms that look like a poisonous variant but aren’t.

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  • psud@aussie.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    All that to find whether a random plant will poison you

    Animals are so much easier: is it an animal? It’s good to eat

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    • wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Oh, my friend, I suggest you look into fugu, mad cow or chronic wasting disease.

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• FinishingDutch@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yep. Years ago I interviewed someone for a radio program here in the Netherlands. This was a forest ranger, on the topic of people foraging for mushrooms. It was the hip thing to do at the time.

  He explained how wildly dangerous it is for average people to do. Especially when looking up things online.

  He showed me two images that looked basically identical. He explained to me that one mushroom was edible and delicious. And that it could be found in the forests in the United States. The other, identical looking mushroom can be found in European forests. That one liquifies your internal organs and causes you to shit yourself to an agonising death.

  He explained that each year a handful of people die from eating it. Because they looked up a guide online, and failed to understand that there’s regional differences between edible and deadly mushrooms. And by the time they got medical attention, there was nothing that could be done.

  I’m not a fan of mushrooms anyway, but I’d certainly never be dumb enough to go pick some myself. That shit’ll get you killed.

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  • Akasazh@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    In France you can take them to a pharmacy and they will be able to determine the mushrooms for you

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    • Sadbutdru@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The local pharmacist in my parent’s village died from accidentally eating poisonous mushrooms ☹️

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    • FinishingDutch@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Neat, I didn’t know that was a thing that they offered. Sounds like a good idea to keep people safe from stupid mistakes.

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    • psud@aussie.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s very trusting to let a professional from an unrelated profession make life or death decisions for you

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  • Kiosade@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I will never understand impulsive people who just DO things, with little thought or worry of consequences.

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    • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      my conclusion is that they’re a feature of our evolution that helps the species identify dangerous things, either they eat a mushroom and explode and the rest of the tribe can go “holy fuck don’t eat that mushroom” or they go alone on a run through the forest and get mauled by a tiger and the rest of the tribe goes “holy fuck a tiger time to leg it in the opposite direction while it’s busy eating Fred”

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  • MeThisGuy@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I just buy them in a growkit, that way they are fun an enjoyable

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  • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    He explained to me that one mushroom was edible and delicious. And that it could be found in the forests in the United States. The other, identical looking mushroom can be found in European forests. That one liquifies your internal organs and causes you to shit yourself to an agonising death.

    Oh god, this wasn’t “chicken of the woods” (big orange mushroom that grows out of dead tree trunks), was it? Adam Ragusea did a video not long ago about it and acknowledged that mushrooms could be dangerous but figured this one was so easy to identify that there was no risk to telling people to forage it. Even if a mistake is a one-in-a-million chance, the dude has like 2.5 million subscribers so he might have killed 2 or 3 people with it.

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    • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Probably not Chicken. We get it here in Europe as well, though it’s not as abundant as far as I know.

      mushroomexam.com/mushroom_look_alikes.html

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    • Lionheadbud@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If chicken of the woods is growing from a yew tree, it can be dangerous.

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    • meowMix2525@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It sounds like the answer to your question is probably within that same video you watched.

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  • shneancy@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    honestly even worse is destroying angel. That thing (well same species(?) different kinds but all as deadly) can be found on all continents! and it looks similar to yum mushrooms in all places :) number 1 cause for mushroom related deaths, and it also liquidifies your organs! whoo!

    i’m so glad the texture of mushrooms makes my skin crawl so i never get the idea to go out there and forage them for food. Wikipedia link 4 different edible shrooms that look similar to that one and to my eyes they all look the same, and idk about you but the level of anxiety I’d feel preparing dinner with something that is as far as i can tell edible would be unreal

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• MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Don’t be a shitty.

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• riodoro1@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  A shitty what!?!?

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  • mysticpickle@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    We don’t know. The original author died from eating a false brown cap before he could finish his guide 😞

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  • usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Cropper of memes

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  • Kalkaline@leminal.space ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Mycologist/forager I assume

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  • MeThisGuy@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    watercolour

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• Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I remember going on a nature walk in Middle School, and our primary stoner/everyone’s future dealer (we’ll call him Nate because that was his name) picked and ate a random mushroom for the lols. I remember spending the entirety of that walk worrying about Nate’s next couple of days. But as you likely pieced together, he was fine, and lived to become everyone’s future dealer.

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  • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The Modern Shaman, hero in the shadows we didn’t know we needed.

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• Assman@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Don’t munch on a hunch

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• souless@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Some of the good tasting butterfiles evolved to taste foul to increase their chance of survival. Mushrooms on the other hand have mastered the art of deception. What can heal the brain can also force you to die a painful death.

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  • HonkTonkWoman@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Huh, that’s really interesting about the butterflies. Do you know if that’s how Pipevines & Viceroys developed their poison?

    I didn’t know there were poisonous butterflies until I read about Pipevines coating their clutches with poison for protection.

    I found out about mushrooms the fun way.

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    • suction@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Viceroys usually trap their enemies in a closed room and let in poison gas.

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    • souless@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yes, evolution is a reaction in response to stimuli and dangers present in their environment. Another example this time provided by Darwin is the case with peppered moths. The majority were white colored as they found protection being blended in to the light colored environment.

      The industrial revolution introduced pollution that changed the color of nature, in response the black colored moths quickly gained the majority because they blended in better so they had a greater chance to survive, years later once the pollution improved the white moths once again thrived because of the incredibly complex quick acting process of natures natural selection.

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• CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Idk if op meant to fearmonger, but mushrooms are hardly ever toxic and hardly ever fatal.

  It is now thought that of the approximately 100,000 known fungi species found worldwide, about 100 of them are poisonous to humans.[14] However, by far the majority of mushroom poisonings are not fatal,[15] and the majority of fatal poisonings are attributable to the Amanita phalloides mushroom

  en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mushroom_poisoning

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• RidderSport@feddit.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You apparently have a shitty mushroom guide.

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• asg101@hexbear.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Every mushroom is edible… once.

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• leftzero@lemmynsfw.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  If your family has been hunting mushrooms in the area for a few generations and you’ve been going with them as a kid (and you’re not dumber than the mushrooms) you’re almost certainly fine.

  If not, don’t bother, you’ll end up poisoning yourself (and possibly others) and probably ruining the forest for those who know what they’re doing.

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• Nicoleism101@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Never had a problem in middle temperate Europe or heard about anyone who had. Must be some other country thing I guess

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• Raiderkev@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  My friend forages for porcini mushrooms out near Tahoe. I thankfully don’t like mushrooms, so he’s not offended when I decline, but idgaf how good he is at finding them, it only takes 1 fuckup and you’re dead. He says there’s no mushrooms that look like it and as long as you only look for that one, you’ll be fine. Frankly imo mushrooms are nasty as hell even when you get the kind you know won’t kill you at the store. I have no desire to risk my life to eat wild fungus.

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• drmoose@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  FYI you can actually safely lick all mushrooms that we know off. The bad ones will taste bitter if there’s every a confusion between the species. Though if you’re really unsure don’t risk it.

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• frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Pick shaggy ink caps

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