“Let’s put LSD in this small town’s drinking water and see what happens.”
“What scientific purpose would this have?”
“It would be funny.”
“Good point. Operation Midnight approved.”
Overthrow a Government and Install a Puppet Dictator? The CIA will do it for Bananas!
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Kolanaki@yiffit.net 11 months ago
KrankyKong@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Don’t threaten me with a good time
alekwithak@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Being unknowingly dosed with an unknown psychedelic is NOT a good time.
NaoPb@eviltoast.org 11 months ago
I can’t find the part about spiking a small town’s drinking water in that article.
darganon@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m all for keeping the CIA accountable, but you’re conflating two things there.
Ibaudia@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I had to do some serious convincing to inform my mom about the CIA’s involvement in Contra cocaine trafficking.
eldavi@lemmy.world 11 months ago
[deleted]theneverfox@pawb.social 11 months ago
The ultimate conspiracy theory… The CIA is manufacturing conspiracy theories so that their actual, admitted, documented conspiracies are dismissed reflexively for sounding insane
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
And here I thought the whole Iran Contra thing would be the first one people would know
Ibaudia@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Right?? It was even in an episode of The Boys.
undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Not even their worst or most prolific drug running scam. For anyone interested “operation gladio.” The CIA ran the herion game out of Myanmar, with the mob, from about 1944 onwards. Myanmar used to be the worlds largest producer of herion, until Afghanistan overtook them sometime in the late 00s / early 10s…
Now, I’m not saying China are the good guys or anything here. However, if I wanted to stop a rouge security agency from selling herion to fund secret, illegal wars around the world, I’d flood their neighbours with fentanyl.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Thankfully, there’s a wiki page
FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Wikipedia Editing
Seeing this listed next to things like “Human Rights Concerns” made me chuckle.
ICastFist@programming.dev 11 months ago
It’s just like that TvTrope! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/…/ArsonMurderAndJaywalking
cmbabul@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Straight up just listening to Behind the Bastards/It Could Happen Here, the Dollop, or Knowledge Fight will make you sound like a crazy person if you talk about them to someone who has no interest in history or current events
Jimbo@yiffit.net 11 months ago
No you don’t understand, they were turning seals into oil!!!
pjwestin@lemmy.world 11 months ago
On a similar note, I get irate when people call the Business Plot a conspiracy theory. It’s just a conspiracy. We know it happened.
11111one11111@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Meh not really that wild especially when FDR kinda opened the can of worms by disregarding the 150 year old precedent that president’s should only serve 2 terms. He also failed in his attempt to permanently stack the SC proposing to expand the number of justices to 15. Despite his failure he was still able to annoit 8 SC justices while in office. Let’s also not forget his refusal to support anti-lynching laws and the whole complete disregard to the constitutional policy and procedure.
Not meaning to down play it but for OP’s actual topic of discussion, The Business Plot doesn’t even skim the surface of the CIA’s depravity.
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
FDR’s threat to add a justice every year a justice failed to retire after the age of 70 was pretty well targeted though. It sent the intended message.
yamapikariya@lemmyfi.com 11 months ago
You are being watched. The government has a secret system, a machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because I built it. I designed the machine to detect acts of terror, but it sees everything. Violent crimes involving ordinary people, people like you. Crimes the government considered irrelevant. They wouldn’t act, so I decided I would. But I needed a partner, someone with the skills to intervene. Hunted by the authorities, we work in secret. You’ll never find us. But victim or perpetrator, if your number’s up, we’ll find you."
TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 11 months ago
refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 11 months ago
Lol dat Person of Interest reference
pleb_maximus@feddit.de 11 months ago
The government has a secret system, a machine that spies on you every hour of every day.
That hasn’t been a secret for quite a while by now.
yamapikariya@lemmyfi.com 11 months ago
You shouldn’t have said that, you now have a target on your back. They will come after you.
adhocfungus@midwest.social 11 months ago
It was fun to see Michael Emerson in Fallout with a dog that looks just like Bear. He’ll always be some variation of Finch to me.
yamapikariya@lemmyfi.com 11 months ago
Oh my God I didn’t know he was in fallout. I guess I’m definitely watching that now
slaacaa@lemmy.world 11 months ago
After learning about the experiment where a woman lived in a house with a dolphin to teach it, and at by the end of the project she was instructed to jerk off the dolphin to calm him down, I cannot be surprised anymore
shrugs@lemmy.world 11 months ago
What?! You are remembering that story wrong. She was a dolphin trainer or some scientist and jerked of the dolphin because she thought the dolphin was depressed and lonely.
Edit: Found the source allthatsinteresting.com/margaret-howe-lovatt
eestileib@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
She gave an interview on, I think Radiolab?
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That experiment was proposed by Carl Sagan, though I’m reasonably certain he meant that we should inject the humans with LSD to learn dolphin languages, not the other way around.
Wav_function@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Source? I don’t think Sagan suggested the LSD use either way, that was John Lilly’s thing.
Sagan was interested in Lilly’s dolphin experiments because he was interested in developing inter species communication techniques, because he was really interested in how we could communicate with aliens.
Lilly was the psychonaut. He invented the sensory deprivation tank during the dolphin experiments, would use it on LSD to try to telepathically communicate with them, and gave the dolphins LSD a few times. Years after the dolphin experiments he went kind of nuts taking high dose ketamine and trying to communicate with aliens.
NaoPb@eviltoast.org 11 months ago
It turns out they do this too in places where they keep dolphins in captivity. Like with theme parks that do shows with them. Most likely to calm them down and so they can keep them in smaller places backstage when there are no shows going on.
istanbullu@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
CIA is everything Hollywood movies depict terrorists and evil organizations to be.
casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
The fun part is the shit you can’t talk about without disappearing.
Good times, good times.
WindyRebel@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s been 7 hours. You still here?
genuineparts@infosec.pub 11 months ago
casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer is fine, he just can’t come to the Internet right now. 👍
Old_Dude@lemmy.world 11 months ago
A show called Snowfall touches on a CIA agent working to bring in cocaine to the US to fund anti-communist militias in South America. Good show overall. Not the best, but interesting.
Dasus@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s weird how people honestly learn more history from drama nowadays than actual school or something. And this isn’t a diss of any sort, I do that all the time; watch an interesting drama “based on reality” or something and afterwards I fact-check what things were actually historical and what weren’t.
Iran-Contra affair used to be pretty well known, actually, but there’s a clear generational gap and I’m other side of the gap. But I know it used to be known better. How do I know that? Well, from an American Dad bit, obviously (“Wow, I just learned while I was being entertained!”)
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I love how completely bonkers the iran contra scheme was: we’re gonna use drug money to buy missiles and f14 parts for a country that imprisoned a bunch of our own people, because… reasons?
tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
That whole fun idea was proposed by Manucher Ghorbanifar, an Iranian/Israeli double agent
hypnicjerk@lemmy.world 11 months ago
MKULTRA was the result of Allen Dulles’s hypno kink.
mp3@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Either the CIA is very good at it and no other countries can match them at toppling a regime, or they’re really sloppy and we only know about it because of it, plus other large nations are doing it without raising suspicion.
gibmiser@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Or - they want people to know. Fear is a powerful tool.
HikingVet@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
I’d go with all the above from both comments.
chuckleslord@lemmy.world 11 months ago
This… this is the ninja thing again. Was Japan famous for its ninjas because they were the best in the world, or did every other country have ninja and Japan was just so shit at it that we associate them with Japan?
blackbelt352@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Because our perception of ninja is based around kabuki theater and not historical accuracy. Kabuki theater stage hands were always dressed in black to blend into the background. When an ninja assassination would happen in a show, the “stage hand” would do the assassination because the audience knows to kinda ignore the stage hands during the production.
IRL ninja would just look like normal people, waiting for the right opportunity to strike at someone.
PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world 11 months ago
This is something that the CIA actively engages in. It’s not quite at the covfefe level of “we meant to get caught,” but they do occasionally put out the word that they like it when they’re perceived as ham-fisted bunglers as it makes it easier to get away with stuff.
blackbelt352@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I see it as they’re like master painters, just because you can see their brush strokes on the canvas, doesn’t mean it wasn’t masterfully done.
The CIA wants people to know what they’ve done but without giving away what they’re doing now and that’s what the CIA is really good at. It’s why things like Trump taking the classified documents with him to Mar a Lago was such a huge deal, because they contained secrets that are still in use today and has led to a number of our own agents getting captured or killed.
Socsa@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
The reality is that the CIA can only go so far in actually manufacturing dissent. More often they merely amplify and enable opposition which already exists. That’s why the whole “CIA coup” meme is really a bit of a joke in the modern context. The CIA didn’t ship millions of protestors willing to eat bullets into Kyiv. The whining really does reduce to “how dare you convince people that your system is better and provide material support to people with real grievances.”
I’m sorry, but that’s fair game as far as I’m concerned. If you don’t like it then be less shitty.
coolusername@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
Uhh the CIA has been working on promoting Banderaism since the 60s AT LEAST. Also, hardcore neonazis/banderists have died already during the battle for Bahkmut.
conditional_soup@lemm.ee 11 months ago
It’s just high, high volume. You swing at every pitch and you’re statistically bound to eventually hit some home runs. The CIA is always up to some shit.
coolusername@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
They have by far the largest budget. The US, Japan, and SK are our vassels. Their intelligence agencies don’t do shit without us okaying it. There’s a reason that Europe didn’t say shit after we blew up nordstream 2.
PiratePanPan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
This is why nobody responds to my Grindr messages
33550336@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That’s excentric. Soviet Union would never admit such things.
StaySquared@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Wasn’t there supposedly a coup attempt in Congo and they were a handful of Americans? Don’t know if CIA but more than likely CIA.
caboose2006@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
I have no proof but it was Def the CIA
mydude@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Why is this a shitpost…?
K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
I still can’t believe they essentially proved telepathy works and used it for 20 atleast years for missions with collaborative evidence.
caboose2006@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
But then parlaying that into “NASA must be lying earth flat” or “Imma videogame this pizza parlor” is where the problems begin
CapnAssHolo@lemmy.sdf.org 11 months ago
Kase@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I mean it probably doesn’t help, but if you’re yelling anything at the sky you’re probably gonna sound a bit crazy /s
Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 11 months ago
This is a direct consequence of Conway’s law. You create an organisation with the mission of deceiving and abusing, don’t be surprised if they produce deception and abuse.
gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Huh, well this is one of those things I’m going to see everywhere now
Melvin Conway and Hannah Arendt probably could have had a really fascinating with each other comparing ideas in computer and political sciences
bl_r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
TIL Foucault wasn’t the first person to have that idea, I’ve always heard it referred to as Foucault’s Boomerang
rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Unity of ends and means strikes again!