Less trolls, skills, and spammers. And bots.
But it seems to have a higher percentage of zealots. People go crazy and extreme over some weird stuff. You can’t have a casual opinion about Linux here for instance.
How have you personally found the Lemmy community compared to its competition and other social media?
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Crashumbc@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Delphia@lemmy.world 11 months ago
In my experience a significant portion of Lemmy lives in a fantasy world and really doesnt like this being pointed out.
Take videogames for example, if you were yo ask me what Lemmy thinks about videogames… "AAA devs should only release games they have invested hundreds of millions of dollars into making once they are absolutely finished and bug free with no expensive future DLCs or microtransactions, absolutely no ongoing subscription costs for the absolute minimum price they think they can sell it for and not go out of business but it should also be DRM free and nobody should buy it anyway because its digital and you shouldnt feel bad downloading it for free because it doesnt cost money to make another digital copy its just greed.
God help you if you dont agree. I too would like to live in a post scarcity communist utopia, but we dont.
z00s@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Post scarcity communist utopia
You mean Star Trek?
vivadanang@lemm.ee 11 months ago
AAA devs should only release games they have invested hundreds of millions of dollars into making once they are absolutely finished and bug free with no expensive future DLCs or microtransactions, absolutely no ongoing subscription costs for the absolute minimum price they think they can sell it for and not go out of business but it should also be DRM free and nobody should buy it anyway because its digital and you shouldnt feel bad downloading it for free because it doesnt cost money to make another digital copy its just corporate greed.”
Honestly I think it’s a lot more complicated and nuanced regarding this here than reddit. When I was a wee lad, I yo-ho-ho some sweet software and games via bbs’s but mostly went legit as I aged. I don’t think there’s more piracy justification here than reddit, but also, I think we’re in a ‘golden-shower-age’ of enshitiffication where services paid for won’t be rendered and that, justifiably, moves the sentiment.
That said, as a game dev, I don’t think people are asking for your proposed argument overwhelmingly - they just want AAA devs to treat their paying userbase better. Some of those considerations are unrealistic, but often they’re justified.
I’m finding Lemmy’s audience to be very similar to 2008 reddit, it’s not perfect, but it’s better than current day reddit and I thank the lemmy creators for having a viable alternative.
FUCK SPEZ.
SeeJayEmm@lemmy.procrastinati.org 11 months ago
So much this. People seem to generally be fine here (I never found the reddit communities I interacted with to be toxic) but heaven forbid you purposefully use Windows or pay for software.
Delphia@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Hahaha, You want to see hate?
My wife and I have saved enough money that we might be able to move out of our apartment that we bought 10 years ago and into a family home and we plan on keeping the apartment and renting it out as an investment.
HollandJim@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Or Apple. /c/technology is an Apple hatefest.
You’re spot on - I’m not feeling like I really care about either place these days. Maybe I’ve outgrown social media, especially if the content is high-school level Absolutism.
directive0@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yeah you kinda nailed it.
Lemmy taught me that I wasn’t just running away from Reddit, but from the kind of content sites like Reddit engender.
SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The fuck did you say about Linux?
AchtungDrempels@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I am reading a lot more toxic discussion and really angry people here on lemmy than i did on reddit, which makes me sometimes think i might be at the wrong place. I blocked some of the communities that pull american politics in my feed but still. On reddit, i was good reading just my niche interest subs, but there is very little traffic here for niche stuff, so i end up reading the crazy talk too.
heatiskillingme@kbin.social 11 months ago
My experience is exactly the same. I find people way more toxic here, and way more extreme discussions. I still reddit more on my PC, RES makes reddit worthwhile, and I'm unsubbed to most of the very popular subreddits, so my feed is mostly tailored to my hobbies and interests, which don't seem to be either very active here, or don't exist yet.
Since I don't reddit on my phone anymore cause I can't use RIF, I use kbin. But it's rather lackluster to me.
deranger@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Odd, my experience is the opposite. Everyone here is chill and I rarely get flooded with downvotes.
buzziebee@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yeah I think it’s because there’s so much less engagement here than on Reddit. The same toxic people would have been buried or down voted to hell over there, but here with far far fewer comments those toxic trolls will remain visible and take up a disproportionate amount of any comments section.
There’s also a selection bias thing going on, people who would get shadow banned or downvoted on Reddit find that they get engagement with their content here so stick around, the people who they put off will leave, which causes the toxicity ratio to go up and eventually the place will end up full of toxic commenters and posters. With a federated system this is an incredibly difficult problem to solve.
There’s some interesting musings on how this can affect the development of online spaces here which has stuck with me since I read it. eev.ee/blog/2016/07/22/on-a-technicality/
Socsa@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
On lemmy, I’ve literally been told that I should be tortured and nuked because I was born in the US, and then got banned for defending myself.
rab@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Yeah I find it incredibly toxic here. I’m way more prone to leaving a comment on reddit than here. Honestly the inbox notification on lemmy gives me a little anxiety.
Shyfer@ttrpg.network 11 months ago
I find Reddit way more toxic, especially post the purge from the lack of apps. It’s like their moderation ranked or something. It’s probably different in smaller pages, but I’ve found the front page over there is way worse than Lemmy nowadays in terms of quality of conversation.
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 11 months ago
Given the purge was due to moderator access to API’s, I’m not surprised.
Zippy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Same. And I like some disagreement as that brings discussion. Lemmy can be pretty toxic if you don’t echo back the expected.
clearleaf@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’ve noticed an ebb and flow to that. It seems like anger goes down when activity goes up, which is the opposite of what I would usually expect from the internet but that’s how it’s been on here. I have an account where I filter/block things and one where I don’t so I can see what’s really going on, and when there’s too much hate and rage content on the front page I take a break from lemmy for a while.
I think most of the people who say lemmy isn’t toxic at all are probably people who found a bubble where people don’t push back on their personal brand of toxicity very much.
Hackerman_uwu@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The halcyon days lasted about month. After that each post sounded more and more like that 14 year old atheist reading the bible meme.
leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
I miss some of the communities I used on reddit that are still either quiet or very quiet over here, but I also recognise that unless I ramp up my participation in them, I haven’t really got grounds to feel negative about that. Besides, using social media less is a plus to me.
I love there’s no ads, tracking and ‘suggestions’ - in short, no algorithm. The apps are (mostly) open source and the community are appreciative of that.
I used to get news from reddit and can get it here too, there’s no difference in quality or quantity. Politically, I appreciate the de-emphasis on hateful content and it helps I’m on an instance where the Admin is on top of their game in that respect. It is noticeably more left-wing on here but since I am too I guess that’s not an issue for me. It’s certainly way better than Reddit in that respect where I’d stumble across fairly extreme right-wing opinions in (supposedly) non political subs every day.
People seem, by and large, much calmer and more reasonable here and less inclined to attack en masse. I’ve noticed a distinct improvement in my overall mental health but I think that might have more to do with not being on reddit than being on here.
Lemmy is what we make it. For those of us who came over in the Summer, Lemmy/KBin is less than 6 months old. Let’s not paint it into being one thing or another just yet.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 11 months ago
I’ve been on the Internet specifically for the social aspects of it since 1990 and I honestly don’t see much difference at all between any specific site, forum, Usenet bulletin board, chat room, or service. Just the in-jokes are different and some terminology changes. People are people no matter where they are. The internet as a whole fosters a particular subset of people that even amongst their own different tribes, are fundamentally the same. A lot of outcasts and marginalized people that have no others of their particular group in reality to vibe with. I’m one of them, and I love the web because there are so many others like me here, everywhere I happen to go on it.
ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
It’s not often I wish for awards to give on Lemmy, but I wish I could for this comment , it is exactly why I love the internet, all summed up perfectly.
can@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
At times like this I like to give out a Lemmy Lemon 🍋
can@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
I think this nails it.
MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s fine. I like that it’s normal for people to post multi-paragraph comments in response to a post. Gives me plenty of material to read when I’m bored, and this place. Is still small enough that you recognize people in different threads. It’s cozy, but some communities could use improvements.
Also, the other things I’ve noticed is that many of the people complaining about Lemmy being toxic are some of the most argumentative ones themselves,if you don’t believe me, you can go to their user page and more often than not find examples of them being rude or unpleasant on the first page.
Misery loves company, after all.
half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Loved you in Oppenheimer
MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Eh. Credit is credit, I’ll take it.
lseif@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
omg can i have your autograph?
AchtungDrempels@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I may have made a rude comment that is visible on my first user page but that is generally not my style.
I also did not complain about lemmy being toxic, or more toxic than reddit, i said that compared to reddit, i am seeing a lot more angry people and toxic discussion because i look further than just my niche interests since they have hardly any traffic. That is still my honest take on the topic.
weeahnn@lemmy.world 11 months ago
At the start it was better, but for about a month now I think there have been more negative interactions than positive ones.
The biggest problem imo is that since Lemmy’s userbase is mostly made up of people who left Reddit, they bring their mentality with them. And the two plaforms have hugely different userbases size wise, so if someone says something really stupid on Reddit you can ignore/ block and you can do that with 1000s of people. On Lemmy if you block 1000s of people, you basically just blocked most people who post/ comment.
/rant over
Yeah basically my biggest problem is with how small the userbase is. ( then again I have a few other problems besides that)
PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
I’m asking because I’ve personally found it far more hostile than Reddit (the only other platform I’ve put much time into). What I’ve mostly seen is that people downvote quickly and tend towards eliteism relative to Reddit. That said, I recognize that this could be just by instance or community, so I’m curious how others have found it.
vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
The problem is not just that it’s hostile, but it’s also full of people that know jack shit.
On Reddit you go to r/whatever and there’s a good chance the guy answering your question is the actual godfather of whatever. Those guys didn’t make the move to Lemmy because they are hardcore into whatever, but casually into Reddit. What we got are the people that were hard core into Reddit, and casual into whatever.
So we have a bunch of blind leading the blind dilettantes getting all post about shit they know fuck all about.
stevehobbes@lemy.lol 11 months ago
That’s actually a really great point that was hitting on something I felt but didn’t understand about my interactions and I think it really sums it up. It feels like every community is a general community here - explaining how technology works on reddit to someone on a general purpose sub was expected, but here you get people posting clickbaity anti-capitalist anti-tech shit in tech communities that are factually wrong and getting absurd upvotes and agreement from people who agree with the politics and that’s all.
768@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Knowledge is low, sire.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 11 months ago
On Reddit you go to r/whatever and there’s a good chance the guy answering your question is the actual godfather of whatever.
There was also a good chance they were another Unidan.
qooqie@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yeah idk, I’ve tended to see the exact opposite. I rarely downvote and I think most people I interact with on here do the same.
What kind of communities do you frequent? For me it’s a pretty curated c/home with most chill communities and then I’ll browse c/all and even on there most people seem chill.
So long winded but to answer your question I think most people are nice, the elitist comments might not get drowned out as much since there’s less people.
charonn0@startrek.website 11 months ago
I’d say there are fewer hostile people, but the ones that are hostile are really hostile.
StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I do notice users here snapping back at jerks a lot more.
kamenlady@lemmy.world 11 months ago
My experience is the opposite. I’m mostly on startrek.website & lemmy.world, while keeping local in the former and going for all in the latter.
originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 11 months ago
ive found it incredibly diverse. there are many instances, and some are known for nice folks. beehaw is friendly.. midwest.social has been nice to me.
lemmy.world is a taunting wasps nest of nonsense.. the bigger the community the more... rough.. you may find it.willya@lemmyf.uk 11 months ago
There’s definite buzz words here. Use them and get destroyed depending on what light you’re using them in.
DandomRude@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I try to participate more actively on Lemmy than I did on reddit, where I was really just a lurker. I decided to do so in order to support the platform at least a little. I have the impression that a lot of lemmy users feel similar and really do want to care for this project. And that’s really cool, I think.
In my opinion, however, the biggest issue with Lemmy has unfortunately changed little in the past 6 months: I think there is still pretty little original content. What’s more, the little OC there is easily gets lost in the flood of reposts or screenshots from other platforms. At least that’s the impression I get from most of the larger communities (besides from /pics). I think that’s a shame since this makes it hard to find and appreciate the content someone took quite some time to make.
As far as interactions with others are concerned, it sometimes bothers me that a whole bunch of Lemmy users seem to have really fixed opinions on certain topics. Those guys don’t seem to take arguments into account at all but rather seem to be on some sort propaganda mission instead. So it seems to me that there are multiple topics that simply can’t be discussed in a meaningful way on Lemmy. I think that’s a shame as well.
But all in all, I quite like Lemmy for what it is.
Socsa@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
I just wish there was a single leftist community on the internet which was academically engaged with contemporary political science instead of simping for shitty autocrats because they want to relitigate the cold war.
agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 11 months ago
There is no leftist community on the internet that will ever be good because there will necessarily be people with clandestine motives weather they’re doing so for work or fun. Every actual organization ive been in on the left operates under the assumption that some of our members are plants. The secret US orgs have been disrupting leftist anything for as long as they’ve existed and so long as they exist a real online community for serious leftist thought will always be under attack. Actually organizing in the actual community is the only remedy, and even then the bad actors are still there, they just can’t be faceless and as inflammatory.
Socsa@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
See, my view is that this would be very easy to spot if leftist communities were more academically engaged and rejected a lot of the more mindless revolutionary rhetoric to begin with. That kind of rote populism where everything western is irredeemably evil and must be burned to the ground is the part which is ripe for exploitation, while the bits about economic egalitarianism and labor unity are broadly popular. My entire gripe is that if leftist communities focused on the latter, wed deny the provocateurs oxygen to begin with.
cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Speak to some Scandinavians? Maybe a Finn.
andxz@lemmy.world 11 months ago
A Finn signing in. What are we discussing?
CheeseChief@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Try saying vote 3rd party.
andrewth09@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I use Linux btw
IbnLemmy@feddit.uk 11 months ago
But are you using Firefox??!?
andrewth09@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yes! Of course I also make sure it is installed with Flatpaks instead of Snaps.
Nomecks@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Whta about hydrogen powered public transit?
DrQuint@lemmy.world 11 months ago
[deleted]archomrade@midwest.social 11 months ago
When HBomberguy made his last video, all reddit and discord communities seemingly knew of it without being directly told. Here, I’m not so sure anyone even knows
That’s weird because I was immediately struck by how everyone seemed to know about it here.
Maybe we follow different communities.
DogWater@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It has zero niche reach. Unfortunately, that’s really important for the people who try to switch from Reddit. You can’t compete with Reddit when your favorite hobby sub there has 20,000 members or even many more and meaningful daily activity.
The people here are mostly more techy and nerdy which leads to niceness but also holier than thou attitudes everywhere.
The content here turns over slower, which is another big sticking point, but the bones of the site are good.
It’s suffering from being new and different. If it can hang on long enough for Reddit to go full Facebook, maybe it can hit a stride and prosper but I honestly don’t know.
cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It has zero niche reach
People can’t expect a Reddit-clone. I thought when I saw the proliferation of UK communities that they are going to end up dead. They did. My old Reddit account is 15yo so I saw Reddit grow organically and it went like this:
1-2yr old Reddit Top level subs: e.g. AskReddit 3-5yr old Reddit: Secondary level starts: r/unitedkingdom r/ukpolitics 6+ years third level: UKFood, AskUK, CasualUK.
Each time Reddit grew subs were created organically after main subs got fed up with a certain type of post. AskUK formed in response to users getting fed up with questions in UnitedKingdom and people wanted UK specific questions of AskReddit. UnitedKingdom spawned as more UK users visited. CasualUK spawned when some people wanted less politics.
It was organic and subs spawned when required. So subs rarely died because they only came into existence when there was demand.
“I feel thin like butter scraped across too much bread”
When there’s fewer people you can afford to shove everything into higher level subs and if you want it to be specific put it in the title like this:
- Brits - what’s your fave tea?
- [Yanks] Whats your fave eagle?
Putting posts into communities with 3 people that never gets viewed is pointless. I basically stalk just a few subs and make sure anything I’d ask in a more specific Reddit sub gets posted in the most generic but relevant I can find. E.g. I asked about HaikuOS on the Linux community - it’s not even a Linux distro but it’s open source and it’s the closest-big community that would know anything about it.
People need to treat Lemmy like early Reddit. Don’t think you can clone reddit’s vibe and operation in a year.
I think oldschool Redditors need to WAKE UP and remember wtf it used to be like before the Digg exodus exploded Reddit into mainstream.
N.B. everyone’s comments are worth a shitton more here because there’s fewer comments. You aren’t shouting into a storm, your voice gets heard here. Embrace that people. Stop with the low-effort humour to get karma and put some thought into what you want to say. If nothing else it’ll improve your mental health.
OneShotLido@lemmy.world 11 months ago
This is such a great point that your voice gets heard. When I read that, it finally clicked with me. When I click through, it’s rare that I don’t read every comment. On Reddit, I rarely did because there were so many comments. Here, I’m usually reading them all. Your voice is being heard. Nice.
ryathal@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
You aren’t wrong, the problem is much of lemmy is against anything that could lead to growth to hit levels where nice communities could exist.
JGrffn@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s suffering from being new and different. If it can hang on long enough for Reddit to go full Facebook, maybe it can hit a stride and prosper but I honestly don’t know.
I’m starting to lose faith, but we’ll see in the long run once Meta enables federation. It may be bad for the fediverse, or it could force unprecedented growth. My main fear is that activitypub ends up the way of e-mail, regulated by the big players. I’m too dumb to figure out if it can happen, though.
fhqwgads@possumpat.io 11 months ago
I tend to find that it needs about 10x the users, but I honestly don’t know if it could handle that at the moment. Generally I would assume one would use a social network for the social aspects, but right now the top (everything) post of the past 24 hours has something like a thousand votes and about a hundred comments, which is actually a pretty decent amount. But there’s maybe 1 other post with 100+ comments right now in the top of the past 24 hours that I can see. Go to a second page or scroll for a bit and you’ll see most posts have less than ten comments.
Is number of comments the most important metric? Probably not, but it is pretty important one since it’s kind of the main reason I would come here instead of just scrolling through Google News or whatever, and I’m guessing I’m not alone.
The only people who actually managed the migration in my opinion were the StarTrek.website people, and it took a clever coordinated effort in a community of people who probably skew more technical than most. For most communities that were interested in things like specific games, shows, hobbies, or whatever and not interested in a new computer toy to play with, they’ve essentially died out and are either ghost towns or full of bot posts.
In large part I think it’s because Lemmy’s discoverability is pretty trash, and while I get that it’s kind of on purpose it’s still an issue. The migration led to this explosion of communities but because finding them is harder than making them, it spread these relatively small communities out. The hope was that they would find each other and coalesce, but instead it seems like they took the path of least resistance and just slid back to their old haunts.
One of Lemmy’s key strengths is that it can act both as an aggregator that has a stream of news stories and comments but if tuned slightly differently it can act much more like an old school forum, but there’s really no way to bridge the two ways of interaction right now. I think one path forward is finding that middle ground, and slowly becoming a respiratory of useful discussions like old school forums, Facebook groups, and yeah even reddit. But to do that there needs to be a lot more searchable and discoverable and not just letting Google do it. Finding a way to both surface jokes and memes and whatever for quick consumption, but also having some way to keep those highly technical 130 page long forum posts where they reverse engineer an aquarium bubble pump or something available and simmering on the back burner, ready to be found in a few years and awakened when someone makes a breakthrough.
On a more personal note, I feel like I’m vibing less and less with Lemmy. The memes have slowed way down, the articles are interesting sometimes but the lack of any comments makes me less interested in interacting with them, and I feel like I hit the wall of reddit repost bots spamming thousands of sonic fan arts way quicker than I used to. It honestly feels a lot more like it’s dying from lack of meaningful user interaction pretty much everywhere outside the star trek memes. Half the time it feels like I’m just using Hacker News by proxy. Just like that line “butter spread over too much bread” it feels like the users are spread out over too many servers. I dunno, I’ve had a few so I’m rambling. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk I guess.
Sprucie@feddit.uk 11 months ago
I blocked all of those repost bots a few months ago, and it really improved the experience for me. No longer are there seemingly interesting posts but with 0 engagement, with the real OP not even on Lemmy. It feels a lot more organic.
meekah@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Is there a list anywhere with those bots?
isthingoneventhis@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It seems nice and scratches the itch to be approximately social, but suffering through seeing the same 5 articles posted nearly back to back by bots is deeply annoying. And the lack of content when sorting by 6hrs means I inevitably have to spam block the weird porn/fetish stuff that decides to crop up in-between lol.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Lemmy feels like a subset of Reddit.
Certain communities are continuations of those that are/were on Reddit. The “post link to a paywalled article, everyone bitches about the headline” section of the world is a carbon copy. A lot of the technical space…I haven’t encountered as many “May God create a deeper, hotter hell for you and your family if you buy Intel over AMD” types here, though this may have been because I haven’t really found a substantial PC hardware community.
Commercial Republicanism doesn’t seem to be anywhere near as present. The folks with a mossy oak jacket instead of a personality…there’s a few of them here but the extremists actually seem to be Stalinites.
The various permutations of No Stupid Questions or Ask Lemmy aren’t as dick-in-hand horny as Reddit’s were (I’m guessing there’s fewer teenagers here), though there’s a lot more talk about the platform itself. slow turn to look at OP
Official discussion boards are completely absent. Nobody’s ending Youtube videos with “Go check out our Lemmy community.” I’ll use the example of Coffee Stain Studios’ game Satisfactory: Snut still occasionally mentions their subreddit, and while there is a community here, it’s A. unofficial and B. almost entirely dead.
The brain trust feels gone. Stuff like r/tipofmytongue or r/whatisthisthing or r/askhistorians just hasn’t happened here yet, possibly because of the lower population. I’m less confident that I can get an actual answer to “What’s this weird piece of bent metal I found in the back of my grandmother’s silverware drawer for?” or “What’s that movie where a guy pulls a nuclear bomb with an ATV and gets radiation sickness?” I don’t foresee AMA’s or anything like that, though it seems that was dying off on Reddit as well.
Moderators overall seem to be doing an amazing job, because the place seems well moderated, I don’t really notice the mods doing their jobs as much (possibly because Lemmy doesn’t do the deleted by moderator thing that Reddit did for some reason), and I’ve yet to see or hear about a mod being a human case of pink eye like you’d see so often on Reddit. Use Reddit for awhile and you build up a list of moderator names and the subs they ruin, the same list on Lemmy is still blank so far.
It’s still the internet, which means The Worthless are present and accounted for. You know, the “people” who didn’t get enough attention as children who exist only to make casual conversation via text impossible via interpreting every sentence as 100% true and literal. Say something like “Raiders of the Lost Ark was better than Last Crusade” and The Worthless are guaranteed to show up and try to lecture you about opinion versus objective fact.
OneShotLido@lemmy.world 11 months ago
This entire comment rings true to me. Get out of my head.
algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org 11 months ago
I’ve found more far-left shitposting here than anywhere else on the internet, which might be some people’s cup of tea but I find incredibly obnoxious. I’m not even right-leaning. Glad I can block whole instances with the app I use at least
Syntha@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Which app would that be?
algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org 11 months ago
andxz@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Better conversations, and less echo chambers in general. I know exactly who’ll disagree with that notion too, but that has been my experience.
The right-wingers that did come over are obviously butthurt to hell since they can’t abuse the report function and get backed by obviously biased mods like they do on Reddit. It’s easier to simply ignore them here, as well, even though they’re around as always.
Hell, half the comments in this very thread seem to be bitching about “Marxism” like it’s something that anyone gives half a shit about in today’s world. They need their bubble, and they seem to be angry they didn’t get this one, too.
Also people are generally more tech-savvy here than there, for obvious reasons. That’s a plus.
agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Basically reddit with more Linux posting and few other differences.
feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Much ruder and angrier, and prone to accusations of fascism for any deviation from groupthink. Basically like Reddit but worse, and with less content. Never mind.
mlg@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Pros:
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FOSS Everywhere
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So far, no brigading by salty nationalists
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So far, excellent moderation on most communities
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Better UI experience
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It’s actually fun to engage in many communities here in all types of conversation and media formats
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Plenty of federated instances to choose from
Cons:
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Specific communities are small or nonexistent
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Not enough user generated content per day that you can waste time on (Maybe this is a good thing lol)
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Instance switching is still a bit of a pain because I am lazy
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Web UI is okay, nothing too special. Including some alternative frontends
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Instance federation is like proto p2p. It’s not easily scalable, so it can’t automatically react to sudden demand or attention.
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FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m a Democratic Socialist so pretty much everyone hates me when I offer my opinions.
With that said, I love Lemmy.
No algorithm and no ads means I get far more positive than negative interactions on average.
C126@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Contributions that aren’t explicitly Marxist are heavily down voted. Overall the atmosphere is less neutral and less helpful.
cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 11 months ago
There’s a different odour.
orgrinrt@lemmy.world 11 months ago
For me, it’s great. It’s like Reddit honestly, no matter how many would get offended by the comparison, but that’s how it feels to me. I wasn’t a power user there, and I haven’t been here.
I like reading and finding stuff, and that’s been fun and plentiful here too. The comments are much less numerous, but about the same in terms of their content. At least compared to how it was when I left Reddit, and it’s been a while now, maybe it’s changed.
If I want serious and informative and extremely helpful comments, I’ll hop to hackernews at yc. If so want to know what’s up around the world and see cute cats and a few interesting things besides, I’ll just open lemmy and do a short scroll. If I feel like I need a pick-me-up, I’ll read the comments in anything other than news articles regarding war or politics. I get the same feeling I did back in Reddit. There are legitimately funny comments and jokes and such here, and it’s great for what it is.
I haven’t tried tilde, though I did give it a peek back in the day. I feel perfectly at home and content here, combined with hackernews. It’s enough, and since I mostly just do short scrolls here and there and don’t really doom scroll, it’s just very nice.
I love being here, honestly, and have had no complaints after I got over missing Apollo (the client) and then, for a short period, Memmy.
Once the UX got close to what I like, with Voyager, it’s been nice and cozy.
Haven’t missed Reddit at all. I get the exact same experience here personally.
Clbull@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Better than Reddit. The community is a lot more welcoming, much more friendly and lacks the open hostility of Reddit. Frankly I hope Lemmy doesn’t become mainstream, as much as I want Spez’s empire to fall.
Mango@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s a raging echo chamber in here. There’s Democrats foaming at the mouth with how much they hate Republicans. It’d be one thing if they argued their stances and took on responses, but instead they only ridicule and strawman while admins delete and ban dissent. I’m not even a Republican. I just expect my alternative community to not make their moves from the fascist playbook. The whole point of decentralization is so we don’t have central figures abusing their positions!
Someone tell me this is just a lemmy.world thing and that there’s better instances.
Pratai@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
I find it mostly better than any other option available, but the polarization of the people here is sometimes hilariously out of control.
Commiunism@lemmy.wtf 11 months ago
I didn’t use reddit that much before switching to lemmy (only browsing a couple of niche subreddits that I liked), but in general I do like people here a bit more. At least in my experience, I saw more people here willing to have discussions when compared to reddit, which is something I do enjoy from time to time.
That being said, I must agree with a lot of commenters in this thread - there is a lot of propaganda on this platform and that’s a part of lemmy that I have the biggest gripes with.
echoplex21@lemmy.world 11 months ago
For larger communities it’s great. For small communities it sucks. People need to let the mainstream ones grow before branching to these smaller communities.
numberfour002@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s really hit or miss. The communities generally have most of the same downsides as those on the corporate competition, but with added issues due to the small size of Lemmy/fediverse and inherent features of a decentralized platform.
I mostly stick to bigger communities and instances on Lemmy, which was not a thing I did much on the r-word site, and I admit that makes it trickier to make a one-to-one comparison.
My hobbies and interests aren’t actually all that obscure, but the communities for them on Lemmy are functionally dead, fractured across multiple instances, or just plain non-existent as far as I can tell. Really little or no engagement. So, that sucks.
Another issue that seems especially apparent here is that it seems much easier for smaller groups with “loud” voices / strong opinions to overwhelm any kind of discussion or debate and give the appearance that their opinion is majority opinion, even if it is not. I’m not saying that doesn’t happen elsewhere, just that it seems especially pronounced here. People would complain about group think on the r-word site, but it’s often amplified here.
One thing I like about some of the bigger communities here is that it seems like it’s more visible when unprovoked rudeness and incivility are called out. Not that it never happened on the corporate r-word site, but I do run across that a bit more here.
timetravel@lemmings.world 11 months ago
I’m very new to this I thought the point of it was that all the decentralized bits are still linked. Do you mean there are duplicates of communities that are just named slightly different or what?
beetus@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yes exactly. Because anyone can spin up their own instance and communities on that instance, there are many duplicates of traditionally popular communities from other social sites. It used to be worse here, but it’s still pretty bad around sports, politics, and many niche groups.
abbadon420@lemm.ee 11 months ago
They’re not linked. Every instance/server can have it’s own version of “memes”. So you can have memes@lemmy.world and memes@lemm.ee the one at memes@lemmy.ml is the most active one though. Imho federation doesn’t work for this. There’s always gonna be one community at the top. If that community goes rogue though, that’s when you can easily drop it and go to another.