Gamer Logic 😡

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• Elting@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Look, just don’t bring your damn politics to my game about war and politics. We are just here to shoot ̶b̶r̶o̶w̶n̶ people and relax. I don’t want to think about the implications behind the media I am consuming.

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  • fartographer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah! Why are modern games so political?! The classics were so much more nuanced. I remember when Wolfenstein 3D came out… My favorite part playing that game was how ambiguous the creators were about the inspiration for the bad guys.

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• Steve@communick.news ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is unrelated to gamers.
  There are plenty non-gamers who think like this.
  There are plenty of gamers who don’t.
  This is just a subset of people.

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  • Kobibi@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s a subset of people that overlaps with gamers in a big way. See: gamergate

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    • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I disagree about the large overlap. It overlaps with a very loud minority that wants to take over the gaming space, same as they tried with the metal and goth fans in the early 2000 in my area. Don’t fall for this shit. Most gamers nowadays are well balanced normal human beings.

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    • baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      i don’t think many people who played games at the time were heavily invested in gamergate, but the gamergate gamers were a very loud and toxic minority. that’s often who is being talked about when you say gamer, not the average person who plays games.

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    • dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      a subset of people are pieces of shit. Lots of people are gamers. Grandmas are gamers. Grandpas are gamers. School teachers are gamers. Doctors are gamers. CEOs call themselves gamers too.

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    • Steve@communick.news ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      A majority of people are gamers now.
      The subset of people who are like this, are a small minority; Both among gamers and the general population.

      Gamergate included a small fraction of one gaming type, at best.

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    • ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What the hell is gamergate?

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    • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      See: Survivorship Bias

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    • Goodeye8@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There’s also a subset of people who make up statements based on nothing more than them wanting to believe what they’re saying is true that overlaps with gamers in a big way. See: your comment.

      So I guess you’re a gamer too.

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  • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah, i am a gamer i don’t give a fuck about what the right is trying to push regarding identity politics or “the woke left”. Even as a long time gamer i believe that love has nothing to do with gender or specific body parts, it all comes down to personal preference and the freedom to choose what you are looking for. don’t just pin this on the gamers please.

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  • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yup.

    I have family that supports all the awful shit going on in my country right now (US). They tell me it’s just politics, and that I’m wrong to stop talking to them.

    The gamers I play with all openly talk about how wrong Trump and his administration is. We used to try to be apolitical, but the second term opened the flood gates. It is no longer moral to not talk about everything going on.

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  • wizblizz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There are plenty of gamers who do and are especially toxic. Your post reads like a ‘not all men’. There’s nothing wrong with targeting a vocal subset, it doesn’t invalidate any other group.

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    • Steve@communick.news ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      All inclusive statements like this are in fact lazy and stupid. Using them automaticly make you wrong, and makes you vulnerable to equally stupid retorts like not all men. They are unforced errors in public discourse.

      If you want to target a vocal subset, that’s great! Do that, not this.

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  • dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Gamer since 1982 (both D&D box set and Apple ][)… fuck these manbaby chuds.

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  • SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They are called conservatives.

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    • WolvenSpectre@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      …and mysoganists.

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• SailorFuzz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s not just games anymore. Hence all the chuds losing their minds about “The Odyssey”.

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  • Famko@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I think the funniest part about the Odyssey conservative backlash is that Ben Shapiro of all people actually liked the movie because it “has clear conservative messaging with the law of Xenia”

    He also for some reason thinks that Xenia is a biblical addition to the film by the director. Not sure how he ended up with that conclusion.

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    • GalacticSushi@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      He also for some reason thinks that Xenia is a biblical addition to the film by the director. Not sure how he ended up with that conclusion.

      Dear liberals,

      You claim that you’re not sure how he ended up with that conclusion, yet you’re fully aware of what a media illiterate moron he is.

      Curious.

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    • Ioughttamow@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      How can it be a Greek epic? They didn’t cast the most famous Greek hero of all!? Where’s Kevin Sorbo?! DISAPPOINTED

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    • nullify3112@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There is nothing like republican Xenia:

      • bathing guests in tear gas
      • gifts of insults and oppression
      • exchanging gifts such as children to appease the gods
      • lodging guests in jail
      • safe escort to their next ICE prison camp destination
      • it’s considered rude to ask who the guests are before they have finished the meal offered to them. We don’t know who’s in the camps.

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  • Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s never been just games, it predates videogames

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  • steelplatedmech@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And Star Wars, House of the Dragon, Marvel, Pixar, etc.

    Compared to games the people the meme is referencing is much more prevalent for the TV show and movie medium.

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  • arcine@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Idk, even as a leftist I think it’s very weird to make a movie about Greek mythology with 0 Greek people in it…

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• BradleyUffner@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That’s conservative logic, not gamer logic. Some rather loud and obvious conservatives happen to be gamers. I know plenty of games that are extremely progressive.

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  • uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I, for one, am a gamer and secretly plotting the communist revolution.

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    • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Way to spoil the secret 😩

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• brown567@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There’s only 1 gender, buddy

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  • thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    there is only 1 gender: “custom”

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• raspirate@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I play video games, but my “identity” as a “gamer” is not important enough to me to care about defending the label.

  If someone says “gamers are trash,” you either know exactly the type of person they’re talking about, or you are the type of person they’re taking about.

  I have no desire to argue “well I’m a gamer and I’m not like those people” because I don’t give a damn about the “sanctity” of such an arbitrary label. Also, not only are there tons of toxic gamers who are guilty of all the -isms, but there are also a lot of gamers who are all-to-eager to minimize the shitty actions of the former group and I don’t want to be associated with them either.

  “That’s just how online gaming is” or “You think that’s bad? You should’ve seen call of duty lobbies back in the day” are common refrains from people who may not be hyper-toxic themselves, but they’re completely adjusted to bigotry being the status quo for the hobby and they don’t even see it as a problem to be corrected.

  Also, I’m white. Seeing people criticize racism in gamer culture and jumping to the defense of the label as if that’s the problem feels very on brand for the way that white people tend to prioritize things. The bigotry is a much bigger problem than my “right” to call myself a gamer without the extra baggage. It feels a bit like still trying to defend twitter. I play video games, but yes, gamers are trash.

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• Murse@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Gamer Right winger

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  • nullspace@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s not gamer logic, it’s Gamer™ logic.

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    • BenLeMan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Gamer as in GamerGate.

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• lemmysmash@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Do you realize that you’re currently doing precisely what you’re trying to mock? — Discriminating and generalizing a group of people based on their hobby.

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  • GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    G*mers aren’t people.

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• LazyBaby@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I feel like there’s a lot of white dudes in here that are like “what do you mean? I’ve found it so easy to avoid the toxic minority of chuds. Must be a you-problem? If anything, YOU’RE discriminating against ME by bringing this up.”

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  • chunes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    People don’t like to be generalized. This is basic stuff

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    • LazyBaby@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      So you totally get why running into blatant misogyny all the time is a real drag!

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• toxicbubble@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  i don’t want colored folks in my historically accurate game about dragons and wizards!!!

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• thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  dont direct the blame toward gamers, direct the blame toward conservatives, whose views these actually are

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  • curiousaur@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Don’t fall for the bait.

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• godsammitdam@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Some conservatives play games.

  They do not constitute gamers as a whole.

  Now, did Epstein help orchestrate gamergate and the rightwing ideology into gaming spaces on reddit and 4chan? Absolutely. I mean, look at Asmongold and his botted audience full of non-white self-hating conservative cuck “gamers.”

  I, for one, have found many welcoming communities and lifelong friends through gaming who couldn’t be further from these ideologies.

  But, just as you have billionaire tech idiots who misinterpet scifi, purposefully or not, you also have gamers who try and claim that gaming, and art as a whole, isn’t political. Or if it is, it’s woke. And I can’t understand how they can lead such an unexamined, non-self-reflective life other than that they really are just…less intelligent.

  I’m sure some of them out there have said things like Wolfenstein are woke cause you kill nazis. And they’re anti-antifa after all.

  But, for those of us that love to understand the references and message art is trying to tell, I mentioned Wolfenstein and I love video game essays on the topics, so here are two. One showing how fucking weird and batshit insane the Nazis were and another going into just how comfortable the Nazis would be in America, almost like they idolized America or something…oh wait. I’m sure that’s not topical at all right now.

  www.youtube.com/watch?v=QydfhmIy9pw

  www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIIglIWwwj0

  To me, growing up with gaming, I’ve always felt that gaming has been a microcosm for society at large, often experiencing some of the same cycles just earlier and at a more rapid pace. Gamergate and mainstreaming rightwing bullshit, microtransactions, live services, an all digital future where you own nothing.

  We’ve got rightoids here in gaming unfortunately. There’s unintelligent people in most walks of life. Don’t be afraid to call them out on their BS and emasculate them. A trick white leftist men should learn is to use your privilege to amplify the voices of those without. Because boy howdy, a white man is super submissive to another, more dominant white man. Shut those fuckers down and they’ll turn tail when they can’t “master debate” their way out. Gosh knows I’ve done that here and I’m pretty sure that’s why I was on the Tesseract list.

  Eject those fuckers from society, shame them into the shadows where they belong so gaming and its wonderfully diverse creators and communities can flourish. Gaming has always been a refuge for those of us that have been outcast. Don’t let the fact that it’s being mainstreamed allow us to assimilate to their ideologies. Just like we’re seeing with the massive backlash towards Sony and ending physical media. Keep the fight going. Amplify the good voices and stomp out the conservative and corporate controlled voices. We’re gamers, we should know how to solve puzzles, how to keep fighting and defeat insurmountable odds. How many times have we fought gods after just leaving town after fighting rats in a tavern the week before?

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• Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  playing Dark Souls 3

  EVERY time a female character, npc, or even artwork appears

  without fail

  message on the ground

  woman therefore beating to a pulp required ahead

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Dark Souls 3 has a kitchen with a ton of dirty dishes stacked up and the highest rated messages there typically are “need woman.”

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    • Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Oh yeah, everyone knows that one, ironic considering a jobial Catarinian named Siegward made it.

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  • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I was expecting a spot with “souls”, and a message joking about periods.

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• AlteE@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It is a very offensive and exaggerated meme for the gaming community, by the way.

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• UnCollaredCarrot@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Your browser does not support playing HTML5 video. You can download a copy of the file instead. Here is a description of the content:

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  • mrmisses@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The brick breaks the glass and window frame but then the frame is repaired when he flies through it.

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    • UnCollaredCarrot@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      know i want to now if the original scene in batman beyond also has this error or it’s just the edit

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  • diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    GAMERS RISE UP!! 😎😎

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• Luccus@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Don’t forget:

  “conventionally attractive” and “ugly and woke”

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  • boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s “conventionally attractive” and “political” actually

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• GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  ITT: G*mers trying to pull the “I’m one of the good ones” card

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• ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The only way to make a game with brown people or queer people in it is to have made it more than 10 years ago. New thing = woke. Old thing = not woke.

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  • diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Thats right. Startrek is def not woke.

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• Eh_I@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Got beat up in rocket league or something?

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• reader@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Is this about chess?

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  • diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yep, it is political because the queen is better than the king.

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    • reader@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      and white goes first

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• Chrglstr143@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Guys can we please leave politics out of gaming? Not all white people wear gray shirts this is clear misrepresentation of the white identity. Typical libs always trying to force labels on us. Go woke, go broke!

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• joyjoy@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Don’t forget the two religions: Protestant and Political. We get the Straight White Anglo-Saxon Protestant. Or SWASP

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  • uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Chief Justice Roberts is a Catholic white Christian nationalist, a staunch member of the Federalist society, and has been trying to kill the VRA all his life.

    He also insists he’s only calling balls and strikes, id est, is apolitical.

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• AgentBigCactus@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I just want a fun game like KOTOR

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• Object@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Image ???

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  • SirSamuel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t know, but as a grammar MAGA pedant with ADHD this picture gave me cancer 🤮

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    • zarkanian@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, because clearly the problem here is the grammar.

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• possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Wat

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• HollowNaught@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Once had a guy try and tell me that assassins creed had gone woke because of Yasuke. The very real black samurai.

  The same guy tried to rant to me how I shouldn’t be referring to other people as “they”, because it’s plural.

  Fucking troglodyte

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• Sir_Premiumhengst@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  O o o oh no i don’t talk about politics.

  /s

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• arcine@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is what people mean when they say they’re “apolitical”

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• Omnipitaph@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Sound off if you’re a gamer from the majority of the world where whites are a minority of the population <3

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  • kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    what are you even talking about, europe and north america are very progressive compared to most of the rest of the world

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    • Omnipitaph@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Assuming a gamer is white in China is ludicrous, as it would be to assume a gamer is white in India or Brazil. What are you confused about? You didn’t specify.

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• Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Everything is about politics but the game is to ignore it even as it stares you right in the face.

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  • BenLeMan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Found one!

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