Comment on Gamer Logic 😡

• SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  How dare you call me normal

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  • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    lol

    ok i am NOT normal, because most of my day consists of testing some games on my PC. But i gotta say that most people who are into gaming nowadays don’t fit the cliche of “recluse NEET gamer” anymore.

    So if you don’t wanna feel normal, you are free to do so, as long as you aren’t a piece of shit my dude ;-)

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• sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I really don’t think do man. Sarkeasian was on to something when they said the media we consume shapes us and having lived the media zeitgeist of the early 2000’s I can tell you we lived in a factory for making entitled little shitheads. There’s a reason why they got so roided up at her specifically and it’s because she read the industry for filth

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  • Velypso@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Meanwhile, Im just trying to earn bells so my little duck guy can have a fancy new bridge in animal crossing.

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    • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Capitalist pig

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    • sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Animal Crossing is pretty nontoxic. Also it just wasn’t in the cultural zeitgeist at all during the G4 guygaming era and that’s probably related

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      • Velypso@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Its a bad example of “reading the industry for filth” because the entirety of the industry isn’t filth.

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  • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You gotta split that up.

    Sarkeesian was specifically trying to rile the rightwing chuds up. I applaud her for making that awful segment of gamers visible, so we all could see what was hidden there, but at the same time you have to acknowledge that there were a lot of gamers - i would even say a majority - that weren’t part of this shitstorm.

    I never was against Sarkeesian, even tho she wasn’t really speaking for me, but she made a part of gamer culture visible that was at that time hiding beneath the surface. Gaming society at large also made clear that they don’t want that kind of conduct to be the standard. It took a while, but if you filter out the loud majority that rages against everything they decide is woke, you can see that most gamers don’t want to be associated with this hateful crap.

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    • sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s a new take to me. Literally not trying to sealion, I actually want to know how that has come about.

      She wasn’t really speaking to me either, I played games that had the tropes she was talking about but it really didn’t change how I feel about them. I thought she was looking at the nature of writing, not games themselves

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      • Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Seeing people have sincere discussion on important and contentious topics makes me really happy. I’m curious to see how yalls discussion goes ☺️

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• jaybone@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That’s funny. You’d think being right wing would not align with being goth.

  I knew some goths who were mostly apolitical, and so possibly susceptible to a small portion of that mindset (like I could maybe see a bit of manly manosphere type stuff) but in general that does not align with being anti establishment, which was, at least in the 90s, a large aspect of goth culture.

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  • Nouvellalia@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    laughs in ancient punk

    nazis don’t care about the values embedded in the culture before they show up. nazis don’t care about nothing except bats and boots.

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  • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There was a large push in europe around the 2000,2010s by the neofolk chuds, trying to push into the goth scene. they were largely unsuccessful.

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• BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There’s an overweight of outcasts in gaming spaces, which is why queer people are incredibly overrepresented. Both among developers, players and in games themselves

  But for the same reasons, you’ll find gaming related echo chambers that funnel people into hate filled ideology such as incel culture. A different kind of outcasts.

  Sure gaming have become quite mainstream and you can find almost any sub group who games. But most “normies” games less than the outcasts, as they don’t need the escapism it allows for.

  Within the more “normal people” group, there’s also variations. Some allow for hatred to exist within the communities they act within, some don’t, some allow for queer safe spaces others turn around the second they see it.

  It’s a nuanced topic, which could turn into paragraph after paragraph. But outcasts are overrepresented within gaming. Especially rural outcasts, as they aren’t able to find a physical group to mirror themselves in

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