Comment on Gamer Logic 😡

• Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I disagree about the large overlap. It overlaps with a very loud minority that wants to take over the gaming space, same as they tried with the metal and goth fans in the early 2000 in my area. Don’t fall for this shit. Most gamers nowadays are well balanced normal human beings.

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  • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    How dare you call me normal

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    • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      lol

      ok i am NOT normal, because most of my day consists of testing some games on my PC. But i gotta say that most people who are into gaming nowadays don’t fit the cliche of “recluse NEET gamer” anymore.

      So if you don’t wanna feel normal, you are free to do so, as long as you aren’t a piece of shit my dude ;-)

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  • sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I really don’t think do man. Sarkeasian was on to something when they said the media we consume shapes us and having lived the media zeitgeist of the early 2000’s I can tell you we lived in a factory for making entitled little shitheads. There’s a reason why they got so roided up at her specifically and it’s because she read the industry for filth

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    • Velypso@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Meanwhile, Im just trying to earn bells so my little duck guy can have a fancy new bridge in animal crossing.

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      • sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Animal Crossing is pretty nontoxic. Also it just wasn’t in the cultural zeitgeist at all during the G4 guygaming era and that’s probably related

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      • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Capitalist pig

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    • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You gotta split that up.

      Sarkeesian was specifically trying to rile the rightwing chuds up. I applaud her for making that awful segment of gamers visible, so we all could see what was hidden there, but at the same time you have to acknowledge that there were a lot of gamers - i would even say a majority - that weren’t part of this shitstorm.

      I never was against Sarkeesian, even tho she wasn’t really speaking for me, but she made a part of gamer culture visible that was at that time hiding beneath the surface. Gaming society at large also made clear that they don’t want that kind of conduct to be the standard. It took a while, but if you filter out the loud majority that rages against everything they decide is woke, you can see that most gamers don’t want to be associated with this hateful crap.

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      • sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        That’s a new take to me. Literally not trying to sealion, I actually want to know how that has come about.

        She wasn’t really speaking to me either, I played games that had the tropes she was talking about but it really didn’t change how I feel about them. I thought she was looking at the nature of writing, not games themselves

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  • jaybone@lemmy.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That’s funny. You’d think being right wing would not align with being goth.

    I knew some goths who were mostly apolitical, and so possibly susceptible to a small portion of that mindset (like I could maybe see a bit of manly manosphere type stuff) but in general that does not align with being anti establishment, which was, at least in the 90s, a large aspect of goth culture.

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    • Nouvellalia@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      laughs in ancient punk

      nazis don’t care about the values embedded in the culture before they show up. nazis don’t care about nothing except bats and boots.

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    • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There was a large push in europe around the 2000,2010s by the neofolk chuds, trying to push into the goth scene. they were largely unsuccessful.

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• baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  i don’t think many people who played games at the time were heavily invested in gamergate, but the gamergate gamers were a very loud and toxic minority. that’s often who is being talked about when you say gamer, not the average person who plays games.

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  • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I literally don’t call myself a gamer anymore because I don’t want to be associated with that trash.

    They can have the term, quite frankly, playing video games isn’t a personality but I like the idea of clearly identifying the people that think it is.

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    • dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I don’t know how I feel about it.

      I probably game too much, even as an elderly old man. I still call myself a gamer AND want Steve Bannon and all his diet nazis to die in the most humiliating and embarrassing way possible… crushed by frozen poop falling from a plane sounds fun.

      This is what nazis do. Take good or innocuous things and pervert them. All they do is destroy.

      I’ll still keep calling myself a gamer while respecting your desire to distance yourself from scum.

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    • baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      that’s a good mindset to have

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  • steelplatedmech@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah, I’m into gaming and still in the dark about what gamersgate is about. I was on reddit but not using other social media like twitter, so maybe that played role in not getting much exposure to it.

    I don’t think average gamer kept up with gamersgate, since they just were more interested in what games came out, reviews, and discussions about games.

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    • jmp242@sopuli.xyz ⁨35⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      It also ignored casual gamers. Like I think little phone games are now the biggest market. Honestly I think gamer is such a blanket term it doesn’t have a lot of meaning anymore. I am pretty sure just by how widely digital gaming is now, how many players are like under 10 years old etc like they could NOT be gamergate people.

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      • steelplatedmech@piefed.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨minute⁩ ago

        Yeah, its like making assumptions about cinema and TV show fans, but many don’t keep up with celebrity news or culture. Its just a source of entertainment to them they like to watch.

        Games being some niche demographic that is in the loop of every discourse is a very outdated old person view now. Its actually so popular now the revenue from it is more than film and music combined.

        Even something like Marvel and DC being the stereotypical interest of some nerds no longer applies once it became mainstream, and that’s where games have been at for years now.

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• dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  a subset of people are pieces of shit. Lots of people are gamers. Grandmas are gamers. Grandpas are gamers. School teachers are gamers. Doctors are gamers. CEOs call themselves gamers too.

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  • Zachariah@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    perhaps there’s a difference between
    people who play games
    and
    those with the identity of gamer

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    • steelplatedmech@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That sounds to me like theorizing if perhaps there is a difference between people who play football and people who identity as a footballer.

      What does that really mean?

      Both enjoy their hobby with the only difference being if they choose to introduce themselves by the hobby, but still doesn’t really tell us much about them.

      Other than I guess other than some anecdotal assumptions that are going to widely vary on peoples personal interactions and which social media they choose to interact with.

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    • BassTurd@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There’s not. I’ve never heard of gamergate before this thread and I know I’m not alone. I’ve probably referred to myself as a gamer before as it’s shorter than saying I play video games.

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      • Zachariah@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I can see where you’re coming from, but I don’t think using the word for the sake of convenience doesn’t necessarily show it’s not a useful distinction.

        I draw, built, paint, and craft almost daily. But it’s just something I do. It’s not my identity. I don’t see myself as an artist—even though I may spend as much time on art as some who do see themselves as an artist. I’d feel weird using the word artist to describe who I am just because it’s shorter than saying I like creating artwork.

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• Steve@communick.news ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  A majority of people are gamers now.
  The subset of people who are like this, are a small minority; Both among gamers and the general population.

  Gamergate included a small fraction of one gaming type, at best.

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• ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  What the hell is gamergate?

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  • maltasoron@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamergate

    It coincided with the moment Facebook stopped being fun, due to all the reactionary boomers moving in.

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  • diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Epstein funded chud movement. Started from 4chan. This video explains it in detail

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• Goodeye8@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  There’s also a subset of people who make up statements based on nothing more than them wanting to believe what they’re saying is true that overlaps with gamers in a big way. See: your comment.

  So I guess you’re a gamer too.

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• corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  See: Survivorship Bias

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