Submitted 3 days ago by simple@piefed.social to games@lemmy.world
https://bsky.app/profile/bungie.net/post/3mp4mq5cnq224
> sell the company to playstation
> stop updating or supporting your most successful game
> ???
> layoff your developers
> profit?
Probably should have made a real Marathon game instead of that extraction shooter skinwalker that is only getting sub 15k players on all platforms (Steam is where the most NeuMarathon players are, not PlayStation), huh?
I still don’t understand the hate for this game, also when it’s clear it’s from people who have not played it. It’s fine if you don’t like that style of game, but it is excellent if you do.
The hater narrative is so weird. It’s okay to not like something and move on, it’s weird to flaunt it around and dance when any semblance of failure arises.
As a fan of the original Marathon I’m not mad, just disappointed. It’s like if Halo was redone as a survival/base builder.
I really like the art style, but thats the only thing I like about it.
Genre is what I call “Scum Sponge.” I am thankful it exists because it means I get way less of the toxic players in the other genre games I play. I have tried playing multiple Extraction Shooters, and none of them were fun. I like Tactical Shooters, and even hard ones like Ready or Not, but Extraction Shooters are not fun.
it’s clear it’s from people who have not played it.
I played The Cycle Frontier (shut down lol), Dark & Darker, Tarkov, Lost Light, Hunt Showdown, Arc Raiders, and yes, even NeuMarathon. But I guess it’s clear I haven’t played it, right?
I am a fan of Marathon. Real Marathon, not the current skinwalker. NeuMarathon and Marathon are very different games. I mean, I haven’t seen if they even added any of the series’ alien enemies yet. I didn’t see any Pfhor, not even S’pht Compilers except in one trailer one time.
But nah, I’m just a hater. You right.
Bungie died in 2010 with the launch of the last good Halo game. They haven’t been as good since. Their leadership have all been crooks and profit seekers. They deserve to die along with most AAA studios that have been corrupted by MBAs and shareholders.
When did Reach stop being hated?
There are haters for every Halo game aside from the original. What matters is the player counts and halo reach had plenty of players for a long time and still does on the MCC edition.
I’ve only played the original trilogy, but I always hear people give Reach high praise, no?
I’m sure the executives will be getting hefty bonuses and pay raises as thanks for their services to the company.
Bungie is a shit company and has been for years. I have zero sympathy after what they’ve done to both their staff and their customers.
They ruined Destiny 2 with monetization so not stir fried it’s going this way.
I love stir fry though!! Why did it have to be this way?!
Hell, they were a mess during the original Halo days. It’s a miracle they made such successful games. They basically rebuilt 2 from scratch after it’s announcement trailer. It’s been mismanagement misstep after misstep.
Same with Destiny 1, it was an absolute mess and half the game was thrown away.
Unfortunate that the union fought for them to the bitter end.
Unions are awesome.
I’m working in the IT department of a heavily unionised non-IT company. The contracts the union negotiates with that company (and others in the same sector) apply to all employees in those companies, including those who aren’t themselves union members.
I gotta say, pay might be better elsewhere, but I don’t have to fight for a yearly salary increase. I also don’t worry about being sick. I don’t worry about performance, because they’re not allowed to monitor it. I don’t worry about getting everything done in time either. If I’m overworked, I tell my boss and he has to see about reducing my load. Sure, might just be a good boss, but I’m pretty sure it’s also a workplace culture resulting from knowing we can’t be fired without good reason, and poor performance isn’t one (and might also land you in trouble for monitoring performance).
Many of my coworkers have been there for 20+ years, through ups and downs and management changes and structural changes and all. It’s a good, reliable employer, and a solid union helps keep it that way.
Union benefits shouldn’t be given to non-members.
My wife is a nurse at a hospital that is currently in the middle of a union push. It’s crazy how much effort they are putting in to try and get the vote to fail. Spending money on fliers and suddenly having money to buy the staff lunch all the time. She was told " if we unionize it will be harder for management to help you !" Meanwhile every time she asks management for anything “I’m busy”.
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Bon giorno
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*Bungo
*Budgie
*Bingo
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They absolute milked the living shit out of the Destiny franchise until it died unceremoniously. They also funneled that pile of cash into exotic cars and Marathon.
The part that blows my mind is how there are Destiny 2 fans out there that want Sony to greenlight Destiny 3 and let Bungie make it. They expect Sony to give $500M to this group of devs and leadership that managed to kill the franchise through repeated mismanagement and under delivery over the years? Destiny 2 fans more of the most aggressive FOMO driven anti-consumer microtransactions to nickle and dime them for another decade? Seriously?
Probably the best thing that can happen for Destiny is for Sony to give Destiny IP over to another studio like Insomniac, Guerrilla, Sucker Punch, or Santa Monica to make a non-live service Destiny game.
Sorry, Santa Monica is locked into God of War like it's a 30 year mortgage.
Yeah true. That’s a shame because Destiny made by Santa Monica Studio could be pretty good. They have some top talents over there.
Imagine pouring all your effort into a company for years only to be fired because management mismanaged everything...
interestingly it's NEVER those who made the bad decisions who get replaced or made redundant.
They get replaced all the time, that’s why golden parachutes exist.
“Leadership has failed, so of course the workers will now suffer.”
Good riddance, they could have done something great with Destiny but they choose greed instead.
You know the people being laid off are not the ones making those kinds of decisions, right?
Some people have no idea how shit works. It’s quite sad
Dear lord. The ill informed comments in that Bluesky thread hurts my soul.
The notion that Bungie was some kind of golden goose prior to the Sony deal really relies on you ignoring how much the studio had floundered over the last decade.
I remember when the acquisition was announced, it came out that Bungie went back to MS first to try and be acquired again, and MS turned them down at a price of something like only $1 bill.
People on the Sony fangirl forums like neogaf were all so happy thinking that MS made a bad decision passing on Bungie, and thought Sony getting them was bigger than MS getting Activision blizzard 🤣
Sony panicked and bought a company no one else wanted for about 5 times what they were actually worth.
Yeah, I was honestly surprised Sony paid that much for them when I saw the sale news.
These days the equivalent of E3 is just a series of announcements about which studios are being completely closed down.
“I know you all were waiting for the closure of Psychotic Monkey studios, as soon as their new Blub Flobber title releases. Have I got a surprise for you. We have now finished a contract with our outsourcing company, that allows us to finish the game with them, and fire the whole studio right now. Security is shackling them right out, no severance. That’s right - you can log into Robin Hood and post high value expectations off our mass layoffs - Today!”
“Why have people that you have to pay all the time forever [yuck!!] when you can have AI do all the work for a fraction of cost? More money in our pockets!! [Yay!] Fuck quality, the stupid cheeto dust fingered, basement dwellers will still buy our shit because they’re stoooopid and dumb!”
-All game company CEO’s, probably
They’re not completely wrong, a lot of gamers will buy anything that has a large company’s name on it then complain they were sold shit.
You don’t understand what the sale to Sony was actually for. Sony bought Bungie for billions of dollars. A large chunk of that money went straight into the pockets of the board of directors and shareholders, not the people making the games.
What’s there not to understand?
Also, Sony has been chasing the live service market for years, with failure after failure. They’re also known for shutting down studios when they believe the financial risk outweighs the potential return.
So I honestly don’t know what you’re expecting here.
And, for me, it’s just a game. My investment in Destiny largely ended with the conclusion of the Light and Darkness Saga.
I am so happy their online multiplayer cash grabs are failing. Bungie died with Halo after the release of Reach. Best they can offer me now is have a third party remake the Marathon trilogy. I won’t ever touch their new online slop
More like
sell company to Sony for hugely inflated price promising to be the linchpin of their live service strategy
have one game that does okay, another game that everybody hates
leadership bleeds money through a fire hose
everyone is surprised when this doesn’t work
Let me get this right, people are extra salty because how destiny was treated and sunsetted, so everyone hates marathon after they changed it and lost trust in company? Asking for a friend
Yes. There is a raging shitstorm of smooth brains on X going absolutely nuts over it.
You either die a hero or live long enough to become a villain….
Good management would have new game projects queued up so that their people could be moved onto the next thing. That way you retain talent instead of kicking it to the curb. What companies do instead is shameful.
I don’t believe one word of that letter.
Dude you’re gettin’ a Riff!
RamRabbit@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Maybe they should try making good single player games again. Their massive-budget live-service games have proven unsustainable.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Halo was so broadly appealing in part because it was single player, co-op, and competitive. I wouldn’t want them to just stick to single player.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 days ago
They’ve been in the middle of remastering Halo because it’s the best thing the company ever produced and still sells copies.
I wouldn’t want them to stick to single player. But I also don’t think the company that made the original game really exists anymore. The Leads and Senior Devs have all either cashed out or gone elsewhere. What we have left is a collection of IP managed by an increasingly detached set of business sociopaths.
Kronusdark@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Everyone should. The live service gold rush is a game with few winners and many losers.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Bungie has now been both.
farmgineer@nord.pub 3 days ago
This is what I’m in the market for. Not from them anymore, but generally, in any case.