why?
they’re probably patching a security flaw, because we live in the future now and it is perfectly normal for a simple clock to have backdoors that can read your bank accounts
I just want to set a timer for MY FOOD WINDOWS WHY?
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gezginorman@lemmy.world 1 year ago
isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
“My dishwasher is on the internet!” - “Why is on the internet?” - “To download software updates!” - “Why does it need software updates?” - “To fix security vulnerabilities!” - “Why would it have security vulnerabilities?” -“Because it’s on the internet!”
Mamertine@lemmy.world 1 year ago
And here we have why I have not connected my smart dishwasher to the Internet. Those 2 extra wash cycles don’t seem worth it. Especially considering I only ever use the most powerful sounding wash cycle.
dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The fuck a smart dishwasher gonna do, play Mozart while my dishes get smashed around inside then receive a text message later saying “Oi it’s me ur dishwasher I just finished the dishes and I pissed on the floor” while it plays Mozart again but at max volume until you waddle your fatass over and press the ‘shut the fuck up’ button?
slazer2au@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Don’t forget lightbulbs.
Not_Alec_Baldwin@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The companies BUILD IN backdoors so that they can steal your data.
But because the backdoor is built in, they have to constantly monitor and update the security around it so that “bad guys” (they don’t think they are the bad guys) don’t get in.
They only do security updates to prevent liability iirc.
The whole thing stinks.
Note: I’m not a software developer just an outraged bystander with tech hobbies and techy friends, it’s possible this isn’t true.
ilinamorato@lemmy.world 1 year ago
No need for backdoors when the front door is perfectly legal. The need to monitor for bad actors is still correct, though; mostly because they skimp on development costs and penetration testing. Like they say, “never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence.” Or in this case, slashing budgets.
burningmatches@feddit.uk 1 year ago
It’s difficult to monetise data if you source it illegally (except in China maybe). Nobody reads the ToS anyway so it’s not like you need a backdoor.
c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 year ago
My biggest question to this type of thing is, what data? Why is it you’re all so concerned about a tech company knowing how you use their services or what you’re spending your money on?
The only ones I’m worried about doing that are foreign owned companies that operate in realms where my personal data could be actively harmful. I don’t use TikTok because our only real military adversary is using it to assemble Petabytes worth of data on Western populations which they can turn into cyberware via reactionary propaganda.
Know what I don’t care about? Doordash knowing what I’m more likely to spend my money on. Microsoft trying to sell me an Office365 subscription.
“Outraged bystander” yeah, clearly. Most of you are just parrots who follow the FOSS crowd but don’t know enough to actually vet their information. You think they’re all these full stack programmers who have deep insights but most of them are just paranoid hobbyists who think any shred of data on their spending habits = the end of the free world. As if Wingstop knowing your propensity of eating dry rub versus buffalo is worth anything at all beyond trying to sell you a product.
joel_feila@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Great plot for hackers 2.
DrQuint@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Megaman Battle Network was prophetic. You’re just living daily life and then a terrorist kills your child by hacking the AC.
PullUpCircuit@iusearchlinux.fyi 1 year ago
Thank you. I forgot about that game. I had meant to play it for some time.
Agent641@lemmy.world 1 year ago
They are just getting you ready for Time 2.
Its faster and greener, with advertisements tailored to your interests!
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 1 year ago
Trying to get Windows 11 to show seconds.
Click the clock on the taskbar. Notifications and calendar but no seconds.
Search “seconds” in settings. Apparently you can only have them shown on the taskbar permanently (with implied distraction and CPU usage).
Look in time settings. No seconds, either.
Open the Clock app. The update takes a minute. No seconds there, either.
Search the internet. Apparently this is a function Microsoft disabled in Windows 11 but can be restored with Explorer Patcher, along with the option to set taskbar transparency via Classic Shell (so that you can watch the status in another window while others are maximized).
Don’t have time for that, install Linux instead
SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 1 year ago
Welcome to Clock 2.0, the new time and reminder experience from Microsoft! Powered by Bing AI and Microsoft OneDrive.
- Sync your time zones, alarms, and reminders to all your devices via Microsoft OneDrive
- Get suggested wake-up times powered by Bing AI and your calendar!
- Use of Clock is governed by the Microsoft Cloud Connected Experiences Privacy Policy (click here to view).
- Click I Agree to start your use of Microsoft Clock!
and for all this, your alarm reminders become yet another datapoint for personalized ads, your phone alarm to wake you up then plays at full blast through the living room computer and wakes everybody else up, and you agreed to a 750kb privacy policy that displays in a 2"x3" window with 500 pages to scroll through.
Rootiest@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Note: A connection to Microsoft OneDrive is required. Timers will not trigger without an Internet connection.
MadBob@feddit.nl 1 year ago
through the living room computer and wakes everybody else up
Are you not switching your computer off at night?
radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Finally! Time v1 hasn’t had an update in 4.54 billion years.
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Do we lose another eleven days during the switchover?
HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 1 year ago
aniki@lemm.ee 1 year ago
[deleted]Artyom@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Plus Linux could update it in the background while the app is running. There’s no reason windows can’t do these things, and yet, it can’t.
tias@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
It can’t, really. What Linux will do (and Windows won’t) is delete old files and replace them with new ones while they are still in use. But this has two problems.
- It can lead to stability issues. See e.g. Firefox, which refuses to open new tabs and can’t shut down cleanly if you update using the package manager while the browser is running. If you replace a binary executable in use and it later tries to load a shared library dynamically, it will get an unexpected version of that shared library. Same problem if you try to fork+exec yourself.
- It won’t actually update the running process in memory, so even if you install security fixes your system will still be vulnerable. To be safe after e.g. fixes to libc you really need to reboot your system, but most distributions hide this fact from the user.
Windows could certainly opt for a similar solution as Linux. They just chose a stricter and more reliable model for file locking, for good or bad. For what it’s worth I personally prefer the Linux model, but that’s because I know to reboot my system after updating it. I don’t trust my dad to take that social responsibility so he needs to be forced.
SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I have never had problems with windows updates nor has it never rebooted on me. Dunno what the hate is for, at least windows works without knowing 79 different programming languages and having to scour through git repos from 2002 for drivers just to get a driver compiled for your headset (it wont compile because it requires a bingbong-SDK mainted by a guy from turkey who refuses to update it from 1.95v2 to more recent 1.99-6 which is incompatible with your dial-up modem)
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Hilarious joke 🙄
jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
Not everyone uses windows just to play solitaire Margret.
smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
From command line it’s “sudo dnf update” for example and if you use flatpak, “flatpak update”, updates everything. Or just click update in software manager.
There are programs that are not compiled/packaged by their developers and you have to do it yourself, but so are on Windows. But for OS from Microsoft noone would mention such program, because compiling on Windows is nightmare in comparason. C for example was designed for Unix-like systems. More high-level languages have less dependency installing, but still.
Nowadays people run WSL to compile programs for Windows and that says something…
superduperenigma@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I have never needed to use my programming knowledge to use Linux nor have I had an issue with drivers. Dunno what the hate is for, at least Linux works without changing half the values in the registry to make it tolerable or having an active internet connection (it won’t install the OS without making you create a Microsoft account so they can attach all of the information they collect on you to a profile that enables them to deliver more relevant advertisements directly to your operating system)
skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 1 year ago
I don’t remember any version of Windows I actively use ever auto updating for me either, but that’s because I turned that shit off myself. I had a test VM reboot itself at some point, but it recovered itself perfectly so I only noticed it because the open Firefox tabs all appeared to have unloaded by themselves.
You don’t need to know any programming languages to use Linux, and if you’re a nornal computer user and buy a Mac you don’t need to compile anything either. You’re also free from Microsoft’s stupid advertising and Edge sabotage.
I’ll have you know the reason why my laptop didn’t display over a dock isn’t because of bingbong-SDK, but rather because Linux 6.1 altered a kernel API that evdi 1.14 didn’t support, hence breaking the DisplayLink driver written by Synaptic, thank you very much. But yeah, this stuff does happen occasionally and it sucks. But hey, the problem wasn’t Nvidia’s terrible software for once!
ilinamorato@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Meanwhile I had to reboot Windows four times today.
LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Clock app’s dependencies includes isNotOdd which has a dependency called isOdd.
Rootiest@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I work at night and Windows loves to push Windows Updates at night regardless of my normal work schedule.
Take a trip to the bathroom or just don’t move the mouse for a few minutes and Windows will reboot (fuck whatever you had running) and spent an hour or two installing an update (fuck the rest of your night)
Linux doesn’t ever try to force itself on you like that, it’s a respectable OS
skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 1 year ago
You say that, but Discord will happily refuse to open until you download the latest .deb file from their website, and it’s one of the friendlier Electron applications in terms of in-window updating in my experience.
I had to disable my adblock to get the Teams application to show me a button I needed at some point…
One interesting thing I’ve heard from people I’ve introduced into Linux is that you need to reboot an awful lot. It has to do with automatic security updates triggering a reboot-required flag, but every other day I get a popup with “updates were installed, you should reboot”.
joyjoy@lemm.ee 1 year ago
There’s a configuration file you can edit to prevent that. The Flatpak configures this automatically for you.
mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Linux distros usually raises a reboot required flag. But thats usually to complete some kernel or system update. Windows just go ahead and reboot on update ruining the workflow.
When you get the message to reboot ignore it and do your work. Then shutdown after doing it. Turn on when you need it the next time. And its all well
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 year ago
“DAE too many Linux posts?! BRB need to reboot windows for the 30th time today.”
That’s a strawman argument, I can’t remember the last time I had to reboot Windows, and the last few updates have only taken a few minutes. They also install on shutdown most of the time.
ilinamorato@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I use Windows on both my work and home PC. I had to reboot both twice today. I’ll probably be switching my home PC to Linux over the holiday weekend.
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That update is going to take some time.
LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Estimated update time is being updated please wait [Estimated update time is being updated please wait[Estimated update time is being updated please wait…] minutes] minutes
casmael@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Aww man
Swarfega@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Incoming the switch to Linux tribe…
ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Sir, do you have a minute to talk about our lord and savior Linux?
LtLiana@startrek.website 1 year ago
For a reason.
Swarfega@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I don’t disagree.
For the first time, I am actually dual booting with Mint and using it. Honestly, it wouldn’t be a thing without Proton. Props to Valve!
xavier666@lemm.ee 1 year ago
🐧🐧🐧🐧
CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Windows users get so pissy when you tell them they’re doing it wrong.
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
You should see Linux users when you tell them that the problems they have with Windows hasn’t been a thing since XP
Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
You guys are just very annoying. We all know linux exists but I kinda like being able to play all games I want without needing to check if my OS can handle it lmao
CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 1 year ago
We have altered the Clock app. Pray we do not alter it further.
c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 year ago
This deal is getting worse all the time!
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Any app that chooses to update or ask you a bunch of questions when you just want to use it CAN GET FUCKED. Open a loyalty app: would you like to rate our app? No. Would you like to see nearby deals? NO. Notifications for nearby deals would be useful… NOOO! Earn double points tomorrow… MOther F*)(&^*&(%!!1
Rootiest@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Exactly, the app should install updates in the background and apply then after the app is closed.
pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I’d even settle for an unobtrusive modal asking what to do like a “yes | no | never | settings” kind of deal
iegod@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Every time I open filezilla and notepad++ I’m in for an update. Fucking annoying.
Dick_Justice@lemmy.world 1 year ago
So you’re getting rid of Steam, right?
c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 year ago
And once again the community proves that it needs renamed to c/MicrosoftSucks because that’s the only type of content you’ll find here.
pHr34kY@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The early pioneers of Lemmy are mostly software developers. Software memes will remain overrepresented until more diverse waves of people join.
c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Which is why they won’t join, they see it as being only a place for vegan Linux bros. It’s a self destructive cycle that you can only end with better moderation.
cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I just opened the latest messages in there :
- broken university form
- some broken captcha
- a split kitchen sink
- windows 10 bugging people about accounts
- this post
- a pyramid scheme about books idk
- something about devices with bad batteries
- road stuff
- restaurant bill
- paypal
- linux stuff
- adobe
- youtube
- youtube
- a karen in central park
- microsoft teams
- cars
- shrinkflation at IKEA
- mobile roaming prices
That’s… two posts about Microsoft. Clearly the only type of content you’ll find here.
ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
You forgot about reposted pictures of restaurant receipts.
veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s a
smartclockchicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
I would like to move into a paradigm of no software updates for things software updates are not appropriate for.
ares35@kbin.social 1 year ago
little things like this that would have only gotten updates for one version of windows to another, for ui changes or sumsuch, now get updates frequently, and since they're 'store' updates, you have even less control over them. its rather annoying.
zeppo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
For your food windows?
egeres@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Duh, obviously you need to create a windows account to use the clock app 🙄
MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
For some reason windows will update their own app from their own app store, and then immediately apply another update when you open the app.
Their whole system is so hacked together.
ClumsyTomato@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
Just yesterday it requested me to verify my account (with a full UAC dialog) before opening the clock app. I guess it was trying to sync (?) the custom alarms/timers (??) between my devices (???) but… WTF, Microsoft.
Panurge987@lemmy.world 1 year ago
What are “food windows”?
MashedTech@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I get updating the clock app, what I don’t get is why update it like this and why would it take so long that the user felt the need to complain?
Coreidan@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Microsoft is so successful that they turned windows into a meme.
Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
Windows
there’s your problem
bucketofcandyfloss@thelemmy.club 1 year ago
Ah yes I need to update my lock so I can get the latest ads and spyware.
Emerald@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Image Transcription: Windows Software Dialog Box
Clock
Clock needs an update. We are getting the update ready for you…
A stopwatch icon is shown.
zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 1 year ago
Just had a similar issue with Samsung watch. Go to time food and the entire ui changed that I need to figure out but my food is on the grill already
Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
I got you OP. Pull up YouTube. The microwave time for 12 pizza rolls is exactly the length of the song “Scraping the Bottom of the Barrel” by Frank Hudson.
pastaPersona@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The most annoying thing with these updates is the way they don’t give you any kind of indication of what’s happening on your system during an update.
Have had cases where an application was ‘updating’ and looking in task manager/networking tab I can see no network traffic and no disk usage, seemingly hung up for 15 minutes or longer.
laxmanndhotre@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It seems you opened clock for the first time, that’s why it’s updating
Giu176@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Finally, clock 2
UntouchedWagons@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Whenever my dad’s tablet gets an OS update it takes about five minutes to “optimize your apps”. I don’t know if it’s effective because the tablet is slow as hell despite being pretty new.
pastermil@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
JUST USE LINUX
skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
times have changed
LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Times have been updated.
CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Chronology is progressing
dinckelman@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Almost made me tear up a bit
oce@jlai.lu 1 year ago
Godamnit Einstein, not again.