Destiny 2. Its such a toothless, soulless game. There’s no message, no meaningful story since its a live service, nothing changes in the world as far as i can tell, the themes are all over the place, and, this one is personal, the artstyle is so sterile and corporate. There’s no bite, no edge, nothing that hooks me in to this world. Sure the gunplay is good, but the gameplay is bogged down by just bloated rpg mechanics and loot mechanics, and i need more than gunplay, i need an interesting atmosphere or characters. Risk of Rain is a good example of having great gameplay, mixed with a great atmosphere and intriguing world. Its darkly humorous, it’s over the top, its lonely at times, it has bite and character.
What is a game you can’t understand why its so popular ?
Submitted 2 months ago by 64bithero@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
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trslim@pawb.social 2 months ago
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Right?
I played the hell out of ME3MP. I played some Warframe. I get the “PVE shooter zen”
But WTF. Everything I see and read about Destiny 2 sounds infuriating, and I can’t comprehend why people put up with it.
trslim@pawb.social 1 month ago
ME3MP was so dope. I would have loved if they had included it in the legendary edition.
Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I played destiny 1 to death. Loved that game and the expansions were all great quality and genuinely made the game better.
Destiny 2 came out and i felt like it was over. I gave it a good go but the fun was just not there. The worlds were boring, the level or RPG from the outset was way too high. The problem they had was resetting the progress of players who had the first game down toa science and then dropping you in to a new game which is immediately massively convoluted with relic this, augment that, skill tree this, weapon mod that. It was too complex and gave me anxiety trying to work out what the best loadout was and then everything i spent time working out was null and void cone the next expansion.
Destiny 1 was amazing. Destiny 2 was a dumpster fire.
Similar thing happened to overwatch. 1 was addictive and rewarding. 2 was a cashgrab and not even close to what was promised.
drmoose@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It’s such a threadmil game. They took the worst parts of wow and put a gun in.
NGC2346@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
league of legend, this thing is so boring i cant comprehend the reason people are addicted to it since 13 years
AlJones@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Large amount of players, high skill expression, impossible to master, cool lore, one of the biggest e-sports scenes, hundreds of characters to play, and it can run on most hardware.
That being said, terrible game, wouldnt recommend.
Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It’s boring and people spit on you the whole time you play. Maybe it’s the spitting? Some people love that.
BiteSizedZeitGeist@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The level of skill really intrigues me but the community itself is a barrier. What a bunch of angry, stressed out tryhards.
Deconceptualist@leminal.space 2 months ago
Not a single title, but any incremental “clicker” game. What’s the point? Seems like “hurr durr number go up”.
Similarly, any game that’s more than a little grindy, where the grind isn’t a fun gameplay loop in its own right. e.g. I played Warframe for years, and the core gameplay feels great. But if it wasn’t for that I would have likely hated the game due to how repetitive it gets just to upgrade your gear.
one_old_coder@piefed.social 2 months ago
What’s the point? Seems like “hurr durr number go up”
That’s the whole point. I love it.
Deconceptualist@leminal.space 2 months ago
Huh? That’s like saying you love a shitty drug. You’re not enjoying a story or developing any kind of skill, you’re just raising your risk of RSI for a dopamine hit. What am I missing?
Mr_Wobble@thelemmy.club 2 months ago
Progression and tech trees are my favorite parts of rpg games. Good incremental games distill that part to a fine, highly concentrated progression liquor. I also prefer that they conclude in under a few hours. Fuck the endless ones.
Deconceptualist@leminal.space 2 months ago
Progression and tech trees are my favorite parts of rpg games.
Oh I like those very much too. They serve as a reward for playing the core game and unlock further choices and complexity so your skills and particular playstyle can expand.
Good incremental games distill that part to a fine, highly concentrated progression liquor.
Uh, no I would argue that they boil away everything interesting – narrative, gameplay, choices, skill, problem solving – and what’s left is naught but the kind of task 1960’s neuroscientists would set for rats with electrodes implanted in their crania. How is that appealing whatsoever?
early_riser@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Not a single title, but any incremental “clicker” game. What’s the point? Seems like “hurr durr number go up”.
I’m pretty sure idle games started out as explicit commentary on this exact idea, distilling the very essence of video game progression into concentrated form.
Deconceptualist@leminal.space 2 months ago
Sure. But what exactly is that commentary? To me it feels super cynical, like “Look, people are suckers and you don’t need to waste effort on story and gameplay, they’re happy to just mindlessly click buttons”.
bryndos@fedia.io 2 months ago
I'm glad this still exists.
https://progressquest.com/chunes@lemmy.world 1 month ago
omg I used to love watching this thing back in the windows xp days. Thanks!
Deconceptualist@leminal.space 2 months ago
Oh wow I haven’t seen that in aeons haha
GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Fortnite.
Looked cheesy as hell
neidu3@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Played it some with my kids, and yes, it cheesy as hell.
But what it does right is that the action aspect is well paced in that you don’t have to wait forever until everyone else finishes; if you’re after quick and easy action, it’ll serve you well. It reminds me of CoD:Modern Warfare 2 in this regard.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 month ago
the draw lies in mtx skin.
MissingInteger@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
People seem to be misinterpreting the question as “Games I don’t like”.
I don’t like soulless sports games or Gacha games. But I understand why they are popular. (In my example: Gacha, in one word: gambling; sports games, popularity of the sport and again gambling)
setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 1 month ago
That’s how this goes every time a question like this is asked. I agree. There’s a lot of games I personally don’t enjoy at all, but I can understand the appeal to a certain audience.
Yaky@slrpnk.net 1 month ago
EVE Online (applies to MMOs in general I think). I played it a long time ago with a few friends, but that is it. If I could describe it, it’s opposite of interesting. You can sort of play it solo, but it gets boring and/or grindy fast. Unless you buy in-game money for real money. Dying means losing a ship and all implants, all of which cost money (time).
For “full experience”, apparently you gotta join a corp, and participate in space turf wars. Then it could turn into a second job. And I have a job already. And TBH I am not a very social person.
atan@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
I think this is a common misconception about games like EVE. I played it for about 7 years, and have continued playing full loot MMOs and survival games since then.
The PvP in EVE was the most exhilarating experience I have had in a computer game. This was intrinsically tied to both the consequences of loss and the thrill of victory, and reward - something you just cannot get from ‘theme park’ MMOs. Learning to harness the adrenaline rush and overcome the post-fight shakes was a very real thing that many of us spoke of. It’s that which kept myself and many of the people I played with locked in for so long.
My focus was solo and small gang PvP - initially low-sec piracy, but later moving on to null-sec roaming and wormhole diving. After the first few months, I played almost no PvE content, and funded all ships and eventually my main account through PvP activity alone.
It’s been about 10 years since I stopped playing - and the game may well have changed significantly since then - but the solo and small gang PvP which I engaged in was pretty easy to get into then. Sure you’d die a lot in the first month, but the trick was to keep your ships cheap, play to it’s strengths, and try to learn from every engagement.
fantacyde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Small gang pvp is still probably the best part of it. You can use filaments to fling up to 25 people in fleet to a random system in null sec (two variations of filament to consume - an area of null with more pvp activity recently or with little to no pvp recently). People love using this to go get null fights.
Dultas@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Yeah the adrenaline rush is real. I still clearly remember me and a corp mate dropping some BS hitting one of our POSs and we were the only two on. So we got the smart idea to drop them with our dreads (mine I couldn’t afford to replace) we killed a few and they brought in reinforcements and we were trapped getting nuted. We kept trying to warp out between siege cycles with no luck after several attempts. Then I got lucky and was able to moonwalk out in structure. My heart was racing and hands were shaking after that.
fantacyde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
I will say one upside of joining a corp is many of them give you free cheap ships when you lose one. Takes the sting out of loss when first learning and getting space money together to be self sufficient. This is just me touching on what is usually recommended by many in the game.
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
I enjoyed it for a time as a second screen game. Was great when not a lot was happening at work during covid.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I was gonna say golf without realizing where I was.
gegil@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
Games with a lifecycle of a fly. This companies release the exact same game each year for full price, and people play it. How do people approve such behaviour from compaines? Do they actully not notice that its basicallly same game with some small changes enough to sell it as different game? Do people have that much money to spend on this overpriced games?
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s the opposite. It’s that those people are so into those games that what you see as small changes are big ones to them.
Atomic@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Some people pay $50-60 for the latest FIFA every year, some people pay $100+ for Netflix every year. Some people buy chips and candy for $100+ a year. Some people buy fastfood for $100+ a year.
How about we just accept that each person get to spend their own money on what makes them happy and leave it at that.
boaratio@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Minecraft. I’ll never understand why people like that game.
Sunny@slrpnk.net 2 months ago
Endless creativity!
biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I suppose the issue tends to be the feeling of too many options, especially for those with minimal creativity and lack drive to build something that isn’t materially useful, and that’s fine honestly.
It’s easy to get bored to, hence the meme of the “2 week minecraft phase”, since you can “lock in” and create the most intriguing builds you’ve conceived of, but then after that 2 weeks is up, you feel burnt out and play something else.
There’s also how you can achieve so much in a world, but get bored not because of burnout but because you’ve done all you wanted to that was achievable. For example, I have a snowy-slopes only world that I completed 3 bases, connected them via ice boat highway, and I have 4th base with the exterior almost finished, but I got bored since I couldn’t figure out what I wanted for the interior, but I might find something that drives me back again, which I hope.
It’s an amazing game, it’s just that the flaws in it aren’t its own, it’s the limits of people inherently.
knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
While i never played it myself, it’s very easy for me to see the appeal. It’s digital Lego.
IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s missing a lot of QoL features in vanilla but people spend a lot of time curating the perfect set of mods for their server. It’s too much work for me but it’s an autistic person’s dream.
boaratio@lemmy.world 2 months ago
My kids love it, but I just don’t understand why people like it. The base game has no plot other than finding and killing the ender dragon. I tried playing multiplayer with my kids but all they do is build giant houses and make gardens and what not.
Like I said, I just don’t get it.
atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
you could also just download a modpack and be done with it
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Well, it’s been going strong for 17 years because of unlimited creativity.
Nelots@piefed.zip 2 months ago
Terraria just had its 15th year anniversary less than a week ago and is more popular than ever. World of Warcraft is still popular as well.
drphungky@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Dota?
Droechai@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Age of Empires 2 :)
Phunter@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Counterstrike.
kazerniel@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Guild Wars 2 is 14 years old this year, and you could argue that Guild Wars 1 is having a new renaissance after 21 years :)
kazerniel@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yeah I hate voxel graphics, so it never worked for me.
Also not into creative sandbox games. Give me a problem to solve or situation to improve, and I’ll have fun. Give me a big sandbox with no goals, and I just get bored 😅 (Same with Sims and other life simulators. I’d much rather play stories other people wrote than come up with my own.)
JenitalJouster@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
I get why it is popular, but Fifa/ EA Sports FC. I have never in my life played a way buggier, clunkier game and i literally only play single player on it. I feel like it’s just hot garbage but it’s the only…soccer game with the licensing gravitas.
auzy1@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Yeah. And, I can’t imagine there is anything new after 20+ FIFA games. It’s likely the exact same game I played in Windows 9x days
JenitalJouster@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
it’s 70-100 dollars for…player updates. Ultimate Team absolutely ruined it…so many players spend money on packs only for it to all be reset in the next fifa a year later. what a joke
mrvictory1@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Tell me about it😅 FC 26 leaks VRAM to the point it is not playable if you have 4 gigs even on lowest settings
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Konami’s football game was always the superior one. Even in the SNES era International Superstar Soccer was a much better game than it’s FIFA counterpart.
Knuschberkeks@leminal.space 1 month ago
The Last Of Us. I tried it and found it to be really boring gameplay wise. Everybody told me I had to power through the first bit and then it would get interesting. I did that and waited and waited and then the game was over. My firat thoight was “Well, this would have been a great movie.” When the series came out I loved it. The story is awesome, but the gameplay is just incredibly dull to me.
bmebenji@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
I 100% agree. TLOU is a very basic game, however it’s magnificently well put together.
The core gameplay mechanics are very simple, but the AI of the enemies is great. The story is very derivative and unoriginal (right up until the last 5 minutes) but it’s extremely well told.
All that said, The Last of Us Part 2 more than makes up for it. EVERYTHING is improved. The story is engaging, , well-told, and gripping. The gameplay is weightier and grounded and intense. There were so many times I forgot I was playing a game with zombies in it.
If you can bare TLOU, it’s worth it for the context you get for playing the sequel.
Karjalan@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Totally agree. The gameplay on TLOU 2 is some of my favourite gameplay.
TLOU 1 was amazing the first time when everything was a surprise. I enjoyed playing through it again on the remastered/ps5 version. But I’m also a huge zombie story fan in general.
But getting to TLOU2… I didn’t have high expectations because online was so toxic about it, but I really enjoyed it. Much more than the first one.
mortalblade@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Did u play it on a console with a controller ? I played it back around release like that and didn’t enjoy the combat. The story did keep me playing and when it came out on PC i found playing using mouse and keyboard controls completely changed the experience for me to being actually decent. just me maybe tho
DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 1 month ago
I really enjoy both games, but I agree the gameplay in 1 is god awful. 2 is very similar but they expand on some of the mechanics to make it more engaging. The story of those games do all the heavy lifting, without that no one would have looked twice at them.
systemglitch@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Power through? I don’t understand that. It starts great and just continues great. If you didn’t like it early, you wouldn’t like it later.
Deconceptualist@leminal.space 2 months ago
Basketball. It’s practically the same game as soccer and hockey without the interesting constraints (no hands, or play on skates). I won’t deny that it requires athleticism, but then it has the non-skill requirement to be freakishly tall. If you’re not biologically tall, well too bad, that’s a huge handicap you have basically no hope of overcoming.
And NBA games are the worst, it’s always tied like 100-100 until the last 1-2 minutes which is where all the interesting plays happen (between a half dozen fouls) and the actual outcome is decided. The rest of the game you can often just ignore and not really miss anything important.
Lemminary@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Soccer is insipid. I’ve been to pro games, played the video games, played with friends, and it’s all the same. The best part about going to a stadium was the beer that I could’ve had at home watching literally anything else. I don’t find any of it interesting save for the random penalty shot that kind of raised the stakes. But honestly, who cares.
And now I have the World Cup threatening to make my evening commute a living hell and I’ll get to hear to my neighbors screaming at the TV for a few days. Oh boy, can’t fucking wait.
Deconceptualist@leminal.space 2 months ago
I can’t really disagree with any of that. But I did enjoy playing back in school, and then women’s Olympic soccer is way better to watch than men’s IMO (they play hard, and don’t fall down and fake injury at the lightest bump).
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 months ago
Hm this makes me glad I don’t understand football
arcine@jlai.lu 1 month ago
The Sims 4.
I mean, The Sims 3 and The Sims 2 are right there ! Both much, much better games, with the same premise but both with much better and clearer direction. Both quite different from each other and interesting in their own right…
Meanwhile The Sims 4 is a buggy mess with over 1000€ of DLC, I cannot fathom why anyone would choose it over its predecessors…
mohab@piefed.social 2 months ago
Maaan, easy: soulslike. Combat so slow, they’re the closest real-time combat will get to turn-based. Everything moves at a snail’s pace in most of those games, holy shit.
If I want difficulty, I’ll just play Bayonetta or Ninja Gaiden or something, it does not need to be slow and boring AF.
TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
I love turn based RPGs, but I couldn’t get behind expedition 33 at all. I’m sure I just suck at the game, but dodging/blocking never worked. Made it impossible to care about the story cause I was so frustrated. Again I’m sure its just cause I suck, but I never got mad at yakuza like a dragon for its blocking/dodging mechanics.
Alaik@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Star Citizen. They’ve had a decade and almost a billion with a B budget yet they still hide behind early access for their buggy mess. They do this while selling ships for a grand USD.
Anyone playing that game gets ignored in any consumer rights or business ethics discussions. Lol
CitizenKong@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Anything by Fromsoft and Soulslikes in general.
ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Dig Dug.
Train children to blow up harmless earth-dwelling creatures with a bicycle pump ? And then when one tries to run away you get bonus points for chasing it and killing it ?
More like DIG DON’T !
bmebenji@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
New games.
I understand the hype around a new game you’re specifically looking forward to, but people drag the Steam Deck because it’s “not powerful enough” for the latest AAAA game. Have you seen the disgustingly huge catalog of old amazing games from the 6th, 7th, and 8th console generations that are perfectly playable on the Steam Deck? How many games have gen Z and gen Alpha missed out on simply because they’re “old.”
TheHotze@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Gta. I get that it’s a well made series, but GTA V got repetitive really quick when I played it and people act like GTA VI will be the greatest game ever made, despite the fact that they know almost nothing about it.
demonsword@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Not a fan of FPS. I have played my fair share of them when I was a teenager since it’s all my friends would play, but today I simply can’t stand any of them anymore
Konraddo@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Clickers. I don’t get it.
Nelots@piefed.zip 2 months ago
That’s a hard question. There’s tons of popular games I personally couldn’t stand but can still see the appeal of, like Baldurs Gate 3. But something I just can’t understand? I guess my best answer would be basically any purely PvP game.
I get something like a hero shooter where there’s cooperation and team play involved. But I’ve never understood how people get more than 15 minutes of fun in games like multiplayer CoD.
Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 2 months ago
Literally any of the * Simulator games. Was just scrolling my Lemmy feed and “Car Mechanic Simulator” popped up, but there’s Farming Simulator, and Truck Driving Simulator, Power Washing Simulator, etc. etc. etc.
I can kinda maybe see the appeal of ONE of these games as a cozy break, but there’s like a dozen different ones, and they have like annual releases. Has the Simulated Car Mechanic experience really changed that much from 2015 to 2018 to 2021 to 2026 that you need a whole new game each time? None of them interest me, but the volume confuses me.
To a certain degree I feel similarly about sports games. I do more readily see the appeal of the genre, but do you really need to churn out a new full release each year? I can’t fathom why people are paying full price for a game that is 99% the same as last years version - same engine, rules, gameplay, but they updated that one teams away jersey to be the new shade of purple, kicked out the retirees and added the dozen or so notable rookies. That’s a $5 DLC, not another $60.
JoeTheSane@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Animal Crossing. It’s so boring and the voices are absolutely maddening.
Soulifix@piefed.world 2 months ago
Flavor-of-the-week games.
These are games that get streamed and people just mindlessly fall over on themselves to get - simply because they watched a streamer play them. It’s happened with Fall Guys, it’s happened with Simulator games, it’s happened with other similar games. They would be popular for a good two weeks worth and then dead afterwards just so people can fawn over the next game.
It is a symptom of people chasing that carrot on the stick.
arockinyourshoe@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s gotta be the Sims.
I recall playing 2 and 3, only occasionally, because every time I would set it up, I’d play for a day or even just a couple hours. Then I go do other things, or I sleep through the night. Then come back thinking “what was I even doing?” Before deleting the save and uninstalling the game.
I don’t understand the time investment in a fake family, trying to make positive changes in a Sims life, and it only makes me feel worse about trying to improve my own situation. I don’t think I would get the perspective of someone who thoroughly enjoys this.
Antaeus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Fortnite.
Battle royale games. Aren’t they stressful? MOBA. Same map, same heroes? Counter-Strike. Hasn’t this been played for decades? Other games exist.
a14o@feddit.org 2 months ago
Factorio
OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Cones of Dunshire. It’s too complicated.
Apeman42@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You forgot about the essence of the game. It’s about the cones.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
The thing about the Challenge Play is it is basically the game… in reverse.