Ancient city-sized dragon that is eons older that any surviving historical text or man-made structures in the world, speaking to the dwarf that stands bravely before her: thick Georgia accent “Well ain’t chu just the most precious lil’ thang I ever did lay eyes on! Wut’s yer name, sugah?”
Fantasy rednecks
Submitted 1 year ago by FlyingSquid@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 1 year ago
NielsBohron@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yer here ta kill me? Oh, sweetie, bless yer heart!
Bizarroland@kbin.social 1 year ago
My papy were what you would call an elder dragon, so unless you got the fire power to take down Mrs. Tiamat you don't stand against against me, sugah.
So why don't you just cool your heels, I'll go make us some tea, and you can tell me about what's going on in the world these days.
MBZzZzZzZz@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I don’t want none of them there dragons yonder.
spicytuna62@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Got daym goblins stole mah moonshine.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I tell you what them there walking skeletons ain’t right.
BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 1 year ago
This gave me an idea for a fantasy dramedy about hobbit moonshiners. Unfortunately, I’m not a writer so if anyone wants to take my four word pitch and run with it please do
shoop@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Hey! We don’t take kindly to dragons 'round here!
thorbot@lemmy.world 1 year ago
What better way to break immersion than have your question giver start screaming GO ON GIT
creditCrazy@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It would be funny we had a fantasy world where twang accents are considered posh while British accents are considered casual like just imagine a knight saying “I’ma gonna go kill dis here dragon”.
PugJesus@kbin.social 1 year ago
American accents sound too 'modern' because American English wasn't a thing until the Medieval period had long passed, and most fantasy is medieval or medieval-adjacent.
I'm all for broadening the use, though. I love that the Witcher games gave Geralt and the other Witchers of the School of the Wolf American accents, though. And Dragon Age (back when it was good) giving the dwarves American accents.
YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 1 year ago
New England accent is actually closest to English of the Middle Ages.
PugJesus@kbin.social 1 year ago
I heard it was Southern English which was closest to Elizabethan English.
In any case, reality doesn't matter. Perceptions matter. Britain is an old country, and America is a new country - so in 'translating' an accent to a past period, we tend to see the accent of the 'old country' as more appropriate.
merc@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
American English wasn’t a thing until the Medieval period had long passed
Nor was modern British English. One of the defining features of modern British English is the lack of rhoticity (dropping the “r” sound), but that’s very modern, only happening in the 19th century. They have managed to recreate how English sounded in Shakespeare’s time by looking at words that were supposed to rhyme, and their meter. To me, it sounds like “pirate English”.
Whether modern American English is closer to Shakespeare’s English is a matter for debate. I’d say it’s closer than RP, but not as close as some rural British accents.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Actually, modern American English apparently closer to the English from old days than modern day British English is. Always found that yo be an interesting tidbit.
SonnyVabitch@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Shakespeare apparently rhymes better in American accents than British ones, since it was written before the Great Vowel Shift. I’m not cultured enough to notice but I like this piece of trivia.
explodicle@local106.com 1 year ago
Same with the Quebec French
skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 1 year ago
In terms of spelling perhaps, but America being an amalgamation of many different types of immigrants has definitely affected American accents.
And it’s not like the British/Irish/Scottish characters speak anything like they would’ve a century ago. Every current accent is current, there aren’t any accents that stay unchanged unless they’re only spoken in small communities completely separate from the rest of the world (and the internet). Language develops over time, that’s why we now have English teachers with opinions on when to use “less” and when to use “fewer”, and arbitrary rules like “don’t end a sentence with a preposition”.
Tedrow@lemmy.world 1 year ago
This is actually a misconception. The modern English accents are a result of fashionable language of London. This developed after the United States of America was formed. So after the Middle ages. It’s more likely English speakers in the middle ages sounded more American than English.
Belgdore@lemm.ee 1 year ago
That may be true for region us dialects, but the core of American pronunciation is older than Received Pronunciation
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 year ago
American accents sound too ‘modern’ because American English wasn’t a thing until the Medieval period had long passed, and most fantasy is medieval or medieval-adjacent.
OP mentions Australia, which wasn’t even established as a penal colony until 5 years after the US was recognized as an independent nation under the Treaty of Paris.
evening_push579@feddit.nu 1 year ago
Xenoblade 2 had a nice use of the various English accents, generally each nation/group in the game used a particular accent (eg Mor Ardain = Scottish, villain group Torna spoke American English). One unique character (a blade) had a southern grew-up-on-a-farm accent.
TeraFloppy@lemmings.world 1 year ago
Why so much room for activities on this image?
can@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
cropping hard
ours@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s free real-estate.
gmtom@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Because its fantasy no ones fantasising about American accents.
cmbabul@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I feel like the existence of Matthew McConaughey disproves this
CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world 1 year ago
He would make a good Gandalf in the future versions of the franchise
GoosLife@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The rule says that no one is fantasizing about American accents, but I see a lot of lawbreakers up in this house
mob@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
Why not? American culture and linguistics are extremely popular around the world.
Maybe since modern America is so young, people dont associate it to fantasy?
Alternatively, Native American accents aren’t uncommon in fantasy I feel like
Belzebubulubu@mujico.org 1 year ago
Yeah sure buddy, “American Culture” is extremely popular. It isn’t that you people just try to appropriate the culture of the migrants lol
ours@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Good point, Avatar is basically US Marines in spaaaaace vs. spaaaace Pocahontas sci-fi/fantasy.
Jikal@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Orc: “Y’all lil fellers in the wrong gotdam place I reckon. You boys jus’ git on up in them rocks and take them panties right off.”
hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net 1 year ago
WoodenBleachers@lemmy.basedcount.com 1 year ago
Pretty sure because the “original” fantasy was written as a false history for England (LoTR was this). So it makes sense that the people would bear an English accent
saigot@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
I hope one day we can have a (respectful) mainstream fantasy world for Native America, It could be so cool.
Jilanico@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Not exactly what you’re looking for, but most characters in A Wizard of Earthsea resemble Native Americans.
someguy3@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Do the books have accents?
explodicle@local106.com 1 year ago
I’ll admit I haven’t read them, but I imagine the original version was British English with all the extra U’s and such.
monsterlynn@kbin.social 1 year ago
@WoodenBleachers But his sources were Norse, primarily, so by extension the argument can be made that the characters should all have Scandinavian accents.
WoodenBleachers@lemmy.basedcount.com 1 year ago
That’s cool. I wouldn’t mind fantasy characters having accents (it’s fantasy after all) just providing context for why it’s predominantly English
TigrisMorte@kbin.social 1 year ago
No, only folks that never read what Tolkien said about LotR think it is a fake History for England.
WoodenBleachers@lemmy.basedcount.com 1 year ago
I read the Silmarillion, he was sad about the fact that England had no real “mythology” so he made his own
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Fantasy is based upon the middle ages.
During the middle ages the US did not exist.
lanolinoil@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Iroquois Confederacy would like a word…
HardNut@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The middle ages ended in 1453 with the fall of Constantinople, which coincided with the birth of the Renaissance in Italy having already taken place.
The Iroquois Confederacy was founded (most likely) in the 1500s, with the earliest record of the first capital being in 1609.
The United States itself was founded in the 1700s.
Their comment was correct, the Iroquois Confederacy was founded during the age of the Renaissance and our modern conception of America came much later
Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Also, why are all dwarfs Scottish?
uis@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Because both are proud and mountanious nations?
Damdy@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Apparently, Tolkien’s dwarven language just naturally works well with a Scottish accent. Earlier radio, tv, readings leant into this and other writings including fantasy dwarves followed suit.
KeisukeTakatou@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It just sounds right.
CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Because they save money on the makeup budget
Death_Equity@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I lol’d.
mambabasa@slrpnk.net 1 year ago
Dwarves have American accents in Dragon Age!
Glitterkoe@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You can’t pick a Scottish accent for your character in Baldurs Gate 3 and now mine just sounds British. It’s sounds, well… off
Boldizzle@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Because New Zealand is a fantasy hence why it doesn’t exist on many world maps.
merc@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Let’s see.
Dwarves: Billy-Bob Thornton’s accent from Sling Blade.
Elves: Transatlantic accent. Used by stars in the 1930s/1940s.
Hobbits: Cajun. Makes sense, they love food, live a rural life, etc.
Orcs: NYC accent
Goblins: Chicago Accent
Or, if you wanted to go international.
Dwarves: Gotta go with the classic. Glasgow.
Elves: South African. I think it can sound smart but foreign-influenced, as elves should.
Hobbits: Aussie
Orcs: NYC accent again
Goblins: Newfoundland accent
cmbabul@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Transatlantic for the elves is a stroke of fucking genius
mojo@lemm.ee 1 year ago
We do, they just tend to be the Orcs or Goblins lol
phx@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Most have Eurocentric accents because those are the areas the various legends and stories originated.
Various depictions of leprechauns make them pretty much Irish rednecks. I love Mad Sweeney’s depiction in American Gods.
Twelve20two@slrpnk.net 1 year ago
I would like to take this moment recommend Not Another D&D Podcast solely because of the Crick Elves
Yearly1845@reddthat.com 1 year ago
In The Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan, the Seanchan are noted to have a slow, difficult to understand drawl.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Geralt has an American accent in the games.
AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Tolkien, the father of modern fantasy based Middle Earth a lot on old Britain and the affects industrialisation was having.
I’d love to see more fantasy based on Native American mythology for sure.
nyoooom@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Because for fantasy we think of middle ages, and middle ages america is full of natives, not a single English speaker in sight
Pasta4u@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I mean go and watch true blood or read the books ots based off of ?
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Good lord no. Here in the US I hear plenty of that. It’s the last thing I want to hear in a fantasy.
MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 1 year ago
In Dragon Age, the dwarves speak with an American accent, which was pretty unique during the time.
TheSpermWhale@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Modern fantasy is heavily based on ancient European fairytales and folklore
AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Fantasy species are supposed to be ancient.
America is a toddler of a nation, in age and everything else.
GCostanzaStepOnMe@feddit.de 1 year ago
Yes we collectively decided it. We half a big vote, and you weren’t invited.
cleanandsunny@literature.cafe 1 year ago
A great example of this is Not Another D&D Podcast, a comedy D&D podcast. The first campaign has a player character who sounds like she’s from Appalachia!
Prunebutt@feddit.de 1 year ago
The German translation of Baldur’s Gate decided for some reason that elves spoke in an east-German accent. Imagine Legolas sounding like he was from Texas.
BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 1 year ago
“y’all want some fairy dust?”
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
No one decided that, if you’re looking at Tolkien based fantasy then of course it’s British because it’s British fantasy
All of the Asian fantasy I’ve seen has been populated by people of their respective country.
This post is stupid, just write your desired fantasy
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 year ago
He doesn’t sound very Jamaican to me
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
m.youtube.com/watch?v=KUV92xAxVk4&pp=ygUMQmVh…
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yesh. This is so cringe.
saltesc@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Not to mention the history and lore of such things are immense in well-documented European and Asian history. The majority of that fantasy stuff comes from ancient cultures and societies peppered around those geographical areas. I’m sure that would be much the same everywhere if it weren’t for the lack of it being so heavily documented.