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  • SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I think I know what OOP means here. Films that people only like because they’re “good movies.”

    I think the Avatar films fall into this category, as do most of the “Oscar bait” movies.

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    • Hond@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What?

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      • SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You know how some restaraunts have a reputation for serving “good food” (I.e. gourmet food), but just because it’s fancier food it doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll actually like it more?

        So, what are some foods that people only like because they’re fancy? (I’d argue caviar is one)

        Same idea, but for movies. What are some movies that people only like because they’re seen as being “good movies”?

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      • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        OG Avatar was basically “last of the space Mohicans”.

        Also: Jesus tapdancing christ 🤦‍♂️

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      • orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You know how like some stuff is goodbad but people like it because it’s not awful? Like, when it’s not made with minimal effort and it seems like someone actually tried write believable dialog.

        What are goodbad movies like that movies like that but good.

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      • BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        There was a movie in 2002 called the Pianist. If you were around then, you get it.

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    • GalacticSushi@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “Good movies”

      “Oscar bait”

      I think the Avatar films fall into this category

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    • lightnsfw@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think the Avatar films fall into this category

      Nah, those movies are ass. They just have amazing special effects.

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      • SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        … and somehow they still get butts in seats and lots of people enjoy them.

        People want to see the cutting-edge cgi. In that sense it absolutely is qualityslop.

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      • 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Did anyone really feel like the CGI was cutting edge at the time? Maybe I was hard to impress, but I felt like it was a bad movie with mid-grade CGI 🤷‍♂️

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      • Frankddamee@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        As a millionaire living my best life, I’m giving $30k to the first 20 people who message me ‘grace.’ I understand that many people are struggling with bills, and I want to help reduce that burden.

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Avatar is not a good film and this I refuse to watch it. In this six part series I will lay out my reasoning, beginning with the moon…

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      • Honytawk@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I hate these kinds of “opinions”.

        It isn’t their opinion, they copied the opinion from someone else. To have an opinion on your own you have to have actually experienced the media. Otherwise you are just judging a book by its one review.

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    • pachrist@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Nah, this is things like most Tarantino films, particularly Pulp Fiction, where it’s a good movie, but every 17 year old you meet who loves it only loves it because everyone else loves it.

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      • SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s the Kill Bill movies where he finally included enough of Uma’s feet.

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    • Vespair@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Avatar is a glorified tech demo and nobody ever really claim otherwise. I agree Oscarbait might fit this, but I do not understand how Avatar could

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      • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        i kind of hate avatar because Cameron somehow continues to miss the glaringly obvious potential of just setting loose a bunch of nerds to churn out intricately detailed ecosystems and making Pandora nature documentaries.

        Just imagine how popular David Attenborough riding an alien pterodactyl would be, it deserves to exist.

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      • SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Different kinds of quality. Cgi quality, acting quality

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    • Ach@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Huge box office numbers =/= people calling a film good. People have absolutely been turning out in record numbers for the films, but have all been shit talking them endlessly for fifteen years.

      I’m not arguing its sensible. Look at Call of Duty and the rhetoric around how bad they’ve become, but the same people whining always buy them.

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    • sem@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Like how Shindler’s list is supposed to be good? I’ve never seen it. Also Citizen Kane? It’s a hard watch these days. Actually, it might be a little more relevant in the Trump era.

      Fight Club is probably in this category. It’s not… I did not enjoy it, but it has so much hype around it.

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      • thermal_shock@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        What did you not like about fight club?

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      • SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Like that, except you do like them, mostly because you walk away feeling like you experienced a “good film.”

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      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Citizen Kane is actually phenomenal though

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Out of potato

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    • sukhmel@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I thought this but opposite of Avatar, good writing/acting and low budget

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  • BanMe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The new Star Trek show is being called competency porn, which kind of fits this description. Although that’s been Star Trek for a long time. I think folks are upset they’re targeting youth with the last couple series… which, the average ST fan now being 92 years old, doesn’t exactly shock me.

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Targeting youth with: prodigy ✅ academy [I wait to binge] disco [maybe?] snw [nah] moopsy trek 2 [that’s launching a full spread, not just targeting the kids]

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      • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Moopsy Trek! Moopsy Trek!

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    • Nalivai@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Oh, I love competency porn! My favourite is Martian, both the book and the movie.

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    • Guitarfun@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Starfleet Academy seems like it’s trying to be Harry Potter/Hogwarts. Star Trek Discovery has so much forced drama. Many of the characters are super annoying and in both shows I feel like a sense of professionalism is completely lost. Sure Starfleet isn’t exactly a military organization, but it’s pretty damn close and I just can’t take those shows seriously. I barely made it through Discovery. It was really hard watch. Picard and Strange New Worlds were just OK.

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      • Techlos@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        SNW at least had some bangers, the Elysium kingdom episode captured that TNG magic

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    • daggermoon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I just didn’t watch it because I heard it was bad. Also because it’s only on Streaming. Is it good?

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      • EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The shows are alright but the streaming service is the worst thing I’d ever used in my life.

        •Disconnected randomly •Commercials when paid for no commercials (had it as a birthday gift for a month and cancelled after) •Autoplay constantly broke and would require interaction every episode instead of blasting theme songs at me all day •episodes that did autoplay would crash, or it would start the same episode again 3 times if allowed

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      • ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Re: only on streaming

        In my experience it’s pretty cheap to get bootleg dvds imported. I’ve used eBay and walmart’s online store for getting 100% legit DVDs of things that definitely got physical editions.

        I got Andor 1 and 2, as well as Fallout this way, mostly because fuck The Mouse and Beef Jesus.

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  • Diddlydee@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Like everything Christopher Nolan makes.

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    • Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Like Tenet

      I mean, fun idea on paper.

      But as a movie i was whelmed. Great actors and shitty script

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      • UnspecificGravity@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I liked Tenet, but I also made a conscious decision not to think about the plot too hard and just accept it’s vision of it’s own universe.

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      • kamenlady@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I didn’t understand Tenet.

        As in, i couldn’t hear/make out what they where whispering to each other the whole time.

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      • stepan@lemmy.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I should rewatch Tenet. I think I liked it, and I see criticism all over the internet recently.

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      • snooggums@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Tenet didn’t make any sense on paper. It made less sense on screen.

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    • MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Sure, Oppenheimer blew me away, but Tenet soured me so much, I’m not excited for The Odyssey

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    • thermal_shock@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Only after batman and inception, it’s overrated and annoying now.

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      • MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Try The Prestige

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    • janAkali@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No? Most of his stuff are terrible movies.

      But, I am watching them for fucking around with cool ideas and crazy visual scenes. Couldn’t care less about plot, characters, sometimes logic, etc.

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      • UnspecificGravity@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Nolan is literally telling the audience that the story doesn’t matter by deliberately burying the dialog under the music and sound effects.

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    • idunnololz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But I genuinely love momento and the prestige T_T

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    • sem@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Hey, the Batman movies were good.

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      • Diddlydee@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That Bane one was one of the most poorly-structured, plot-hole-filled messes I’ve ever seen. Nolsn is awful but you’re supposed to like his movies because they’re ‘good’ (if you like things that look very nice but with no characters and terrible dialogue).

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    • Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I… fully understand this. Hearing this made the whole idea make sense to me. Christopher Nolan’s films are fantastic, everyone knows that… but when you get down to it, they’re… alright.

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  • yesman@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Media criticism has become so full of right-wing messaging, that quality-slop doesn’t sound off-base. Kinda like poes law.

    These CHOADS take the time to learn media-criticism jargon and aesthetics, but they use those to make single-digit ‘your Dad’ type complaints. The most popular being the existence of black actors.

    I’ve seen people vehemently argue scientific accuracy in Star Wars. People are aggregated right now at the “unrealistic” casting of black actors in a Cyclops movie. Next to this insanity, quality-slop sounds pretty reasonable.

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  • gustofwind@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    A24 produces quality slop

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    • thermal_shock@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I like their stuff, it’s entertaining enough for me. Not winning any major awards but I’m sure it’s fun for the actors and viewers.

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  • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ai techbros are way too deep into projection…

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  • thesohoriots@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Letterboxd vibes

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