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LPT: Go get a shot, now.

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨fossilesque@mander.xyz⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

https://mander.xyz/pictrs/image/df4560b4-5a79-43e2-9208-7ea0f766d240.jpeg

eu.usatoday.com/story/news/health/…/85740271007/

eu.usatoday.com/story/news/health/…/85649593007/

Saw this in a scicomm feed. Hope it reaches someone. ❤️

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  • blitzen@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I can’t believe two Kennedys were assassinated, and this guy isn’t one of them.

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    • Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I can’t believe two Kennedys were assassinated, and this guy isn’t one of them.

      Image

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    • InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      My favorite JFK conspiracy is that no one killed him. His head just did that.

      I like to imagine that he entered a Mandela trance that gave him a peek into our timeline where he saw RFK Jr. Then his head blew up.

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      • Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Except another guy in the car also died

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    • psx_crab@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Head not worth shooting i guess, even the worm inside it is found dead, probably from suicide.

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      • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The worm is calling the shots here.

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    • NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You know, there’s something called “rule of three”…

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    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      the worms give him immunity.

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    • kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Nor John Kennedy, who’s even more of an asshole.

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  • Nougat@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Now, I'm not saying everything isn't a shitshow. Clearly it is. Based on the general insanity, I am 100% in favor of getting vaccinated sooner rather than later. But "might" != "will".

    I'm quite glad you included article links. Careful, though; the image posted is how propaganda works. By itself, it is unsourced, apart from the Unambiguous Science logo at the bottom (which could have been put there by anyone). UnSci refers to itself as

    No sensational headlines, no politicizing of science. Just evidence based information.

    And as noted early in this comment, the image says "will revoke" while the reporting says "might/may revoke".

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    • ameancow@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yah while I’m aware of the situation and what’s been said, what has been said wasn’t exactly from a highly reputable source, it wasn’t even from the DHHS, it was someone who “talked to” RFK, and somehow every news outlet picked it up.

      That all said, it could indeed happen, the administration is unhinged and a spike in covid deaths would be great for their plan of manufactured chaos, but they also have a much longer track-record of leaking crazy implications in order to fuck with the valuation of stocks.

      They may also be planning to do the Chairman Trump thing again and leverage their threats for a 10% cut of Moderna and Pfizer’s profits.

      All in all, it’s way too unverified and unpredictable to know for sure what’s going to happen, however this infographic/poster thing is really terrible. It’s framed like an announcement, posted in first-person, and has no links or sources. It’s so terrible I wouldn’t be at all surprised if someone in the administration made it and leaked it also.

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      • Nougat@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You complete me.

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    • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I guess they’re not authorizing the licensure of them, so that’s why it’s so tentative. He’s doing the trump vague thing, so you can’t go after him directly and then slowly take things away.

      The rise in COVID comes as the Trump administration has delayed the rollout of the updated vaccine for the fall. Last year, the federal government had fully green-lighted the annual reformulation of the vaccine by June, in time for a rollout that began in September.

      This year, however, the Department of Health and Human Services led by vaccine skeptic Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has in effect delayed the rollout of this fall’s COVID shot.

      “Updated COVID-19 vaccines have been delayed this year due to federal policy changes, and we are awaiting [Food and Drug Administration] licensure of this season’s products,” the L.A. County Department of Public Health said in a statement to The Times. “This means availability in September may be later than what people experienced last fall.”

      The California Department of Public Health also warned that because the federal government hasn’t made decisions on licensure approvals and recommendations, “availability and timing of specific COVID-19 vaccine products may be more limited and occur on a later schedule.”

      latimes.com/…/covid-rising-fast-in-california-fue…

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    • YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I know you’re using markdown but it’s coming through as “exclamation point equals”. Lemmy supports the full on character i.e. ≠

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  • MapleEngineer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I live in Ontario, Canada. I can just walk in to the local pharmacy and get the Covid, flu, and RSV vaccine for free.

    The True North Strong and Free (except Alberta, their government are fascist Trump bootlickers.)

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    • Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Please send help - an Albertan

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      • Tiger666@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        We can help ourselves. They are dumb and will divide their vote again at the next election.

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    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      RSV is available in the states, but you would have to be in the risk groups and its not eligible to everyone.

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    • 4shtonButcher@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Stay strong Canada! I hope in a few years people will just think of Canada when you say “America” because it’s the major civilized country in North America

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  • DarkFuture@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The GOP isn’t just a metaphorical plague anymore.

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    • yumpsuit@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “Pestilence” is such an underused word. They’re a lot like locusts.

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      • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        government of pollution

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  • StrixUralensis@tarte.nuage-libre.fr ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    LPT: Go get a shot, now.

    Saw the US flag, read it without the "a"

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  • LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Can someone from the US take a trip to Canada specifically to get vaccines? I have lupus and I really don’t wanna die from covid. I live in an area where people are ride or die Trumpers and don’t give a shit about anyone but themselves.

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    • pedz@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      At the rate that things are devolving, if you have the means, you may consider emigrating somewhere else. And maybe not Canada because we’ll probably be invaded by your country in the following years, or months.

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      • LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I don’t have the means to completely leave. I wish I did

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      • TwinTitans@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Don’t say stupid shit like that.

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    • I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Lupus is on the list of conditions that merit a vaccine for the under 65 crowd, since it is an autoimmune disease with immune compromising medications.

      It’s actually a pretty long list. Being overweight (BMI over 25), having ADHD, depression, being sedentary, being a current or former smoker, having substance misuse disorders, along with all the other ones you’d expect, like asthma, cancer, heart disease, transplant recipients, and anyone who needs a careworker.

      As of now, you can self certify as being in one of these groups (you don’t need a doctor’s note). And your doctor can still recommend it for you if you’re not on the list, as long as you don’t have an anti vaxxer doc.

      www.cdc.gov/covid/risk-factors/index.html

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      • LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Oh awesome. Hopefully they don’t ban vaccines for that list. Last time I had a simple cold I was almost hospitalized…

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  • MarriedCavelady50@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Did they even release the shots for 2025-2026 yet?

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    • scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      yeah not yet, I’ll be getting them quickly but I was already going to do that

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      • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        had a mild one in '23 because dad dint get boosters, and was infected by him. luckily this year i was hit with the COLD INStead for the first time since 2020, the symptoms were more intense though. if it was the flu, i would be pretty much screwed the whole week.

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    • VivianRixia@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      mid September is what I heard for those

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    • scytale@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Supposed to be released very soon (as in days, not weeks). The real LPT is to wait for the new version first.

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  • DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I am not a vaccine sceptic but I am curious as to why America still vaccinates everyone for Covid. In Sweden we haven’t cared for many years about getting vaccinated and it hasn’t been a problem. The vaccine is available to get if you need it. But it’s not something we collectively vaccinate for any more.

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    • crmsnbleyd@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There’s more people in the US. Plust the US is not collectively vaccinating people

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      • Redex68@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        There’s more people in the US

        ?? How is that relevant

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    • Peajee@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Cant speak for the US, but in general, Covid is still more dangerous during the acute infection than the flu and also causes much larger numbers of post-viral sequelae. Those are all potential reasons to recommend the vaccine, which can reduce the severity of both

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    • Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m Swedish, live in France.

      Here: vaccinate vaccinate vaccinate, in Sweden : meh do whatever.

      Also Swedish people: hello neighbor please you’re only 5 meters away from me it makes me uncomfortable.

      In the meantime in France: Hello friends and neighbours, kiss kiss kiss kiss!

      On a more serious note, Sweden had the medical capacity that France didn’t have, which is one of the big reasons in the very different response to the pandemic in those two countries.

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    • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I saw a study the other day that mentioned that Sweden during the pandemic had a median time of 30 days sick leave for those who had Covid.

      In the US that would be rare if impossible for a lot of people. I would think if someone could get a shot that would lessen symptoms or duration in a country that has such a poor health care safety net it might be worth while.

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      • DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah most people here can stay home if they are sick. You get 80% of your salary to start and then it gets lower the longer you are sick. The first 14 days are paid by the workplace and after 14 days the government takes over.

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    • flora_explora@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Same in Germany. Last year I asked some people who got vaccinated if they think I also should get another shot and all of them told me that I’m not in a vulnerable group (or a caretaker) so I shouldn’t bother. So we basically repeat what we know from the normal flu (influenza) and just vaccinate vulnerable people. I’m not sure if this is the best way to do it, because I think many people die each year of the flu as well. However, death statistics are hard and I couldn’t find any reliable data on this either.

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      • Pulptastic@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        US standard policy recommends flu shot for everyone if they can take it.

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    • Farvana@lemmygrad.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It very likely has been a problem and is just being underreported.

      A single infection often doesn’t cause much harm, but those who have constant exposure and infections (teachers especially) are having major health problems. It’s barely mentioned outside of science papers.

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      • DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Our health department seems to be releasing weekly reports about the covid situation. folkhalsomyndigheten.se/…/aktuell-veckorapport-om… That week 10 people died with covid in their bodies. All ten were 65+ years, 7 of them was 80+ years.

        I am not knowledgeable enought to know if this is a lot or not but it seems low to me. I have faith that my government would do something if the situation was bad.

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    • Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It became a political statement here. That’s why you see people with masks on, when they’re in a car by themselves lol.

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      • Formfiller@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah magats only wear masks to kidnap and disappear people

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      • the_mighty_kracken@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Have you ever heard of hay fever?

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    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This is the Danish opinion

      The purpose of vaccination is not to prevent infection with covid-19, and people aged under 50 are therefore currently not being offered booster vaccination. People aged under 50 are generally not at particularly higher risk of becoming severely ill from covid-19. In addition, younger people aged under 50 are well protected against becoming severely ill from covid-19, as a very large number of them have already been vaccinated and have previously been infected with covid-19, and there is consequently good immunity among this part of the population

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    • Shelbyeileen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You guys have benefits to protect you, if you get sick. Americans barely get sick leave, medical bills are ridiculous, and if covid leaves you crippled, SSI (Disability) pays a whopping $11k a YEAR. It’s not enough to survive on, despite paying taxes. Yeah, someone might have worked enough hours to get SSDI, which is a few dollars more an hour, but still not enough to cover rent.

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      • DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s pretty fucked up that you Americans can not be home when you are sick.

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  • Deathgl0be@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    How soon before we get vaccinations with thoughts and prayers ?

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    • yumpsuit@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Prayers should be applied topically or to worn armor, written on parchment and attached to a stamped wax seal infused with holy oils.

      Thoughts are often immunosuppressive and should be guarded against with tinfoil headwear or nerve staples.

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  • UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yep… They are definitely trying to kill off the bulk of the population If there was any doubt… It’s pretty clear now

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    • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Or are extremely delusional and have a terminal savior complex. You’d be surprised to know how much people believe these kinds of bullshits, even if they start out as lies.

      “A good liar will eventually believe their own lies if they were truth from the very beginning.” - some of the people of the early far-right I could talk to personally. I even heard the “Truth is not on our side” line a bit too much.

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      • Fedizen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I do think elephant graveyard’s video on Rogan is correct. This is part of a plot by the technocratic billionaire class to purge the world of humans so they can do away with annoying things like “democracy” and “rights”

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    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      at least we can “find comfort” in the fact that republicans are unlikely to want to get vaccinated.

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      • DemandtheOxfordComma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        This!

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  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    🇨🇦 we approved 'em here. And they’re being made her now, too.

    I’d say come visit in October, but maybe don’t fly in those big aluminum petri dishes!

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    • NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They actually make some planes from composites now. You should see the 787! Then again American made Boeing planes tend to crash or have other safety issues so maybe don’t go and see one.

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  • Dohnuthut@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    After seeing this, I attempted to check CVS for availability for myself and son since he just started back to school and hubby is immunocompromised from chemo, but they had a message stating they anticipate an updated one soon and currently didn’t have it available. Good luck to everyone looking to protect themselves and others.

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  • mmmac@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Don’t chastise me as I am genuinely curious – I saw this clip on Huberman lab where the director of the NIH said that the covid vaccine was net more harmful that good for younger men. Is this not the case?

    www.instagram.com/reel/DKu6Sv7hhKW/

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  • Matriks404@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Are they trying to make massive epidemic in U.S.? Because that’s how you make an epidemic.

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  • ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The US Gov. wants its citizens sick and feeble.

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  • dirtbiker509@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    FYI there are NO COVID vaccines that are covered by the VICP (www.hrsa.gov/…/covered-vaccines). They are only covered by the CICP. If you are medically injured from a COVID vaccines the CICP will not ever pay you pain and suffering or other damages. They will literally only cover medical bills which you didn’t get covered already from your insurance. You will fight for years and years just to get that covered and that’s if they even cover you at all which they probably won’t. I was personally injured by a COVID vaccine and I am one of only 39 people to have received a medical payment for my injury. (See data here: Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program (CICP) Data | HRSA share.google/Ncd8NXbzK2cAdFkTO)

    Do not get a COVID vaccine if you don’t need it. Demand your local government officials make adding COVID vaccines to the VICP list!

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  • jimrob4@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Last night I was hanging out with a few friends and they all started going in on “the clot shot” and Fauci making money off it and blah blah blah ugh

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  • remon@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Wait, that’s still a thing?

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  • sudoer777@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    When are we supposed to get the flu/COVID vaccines? Right now?

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  • CubitOom@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So if one already had a dose of the previous booster about a year or so ago, would it be helpful to get the same version of the booster again now?

    Is the post simply suggesting to people that haven’t yet had the booster go get it? Or is it saying you’re better off getting the same booster again rather than nothing?

    Also, I’m assuming people with the means to go to a different country without these laughing stock “leaders” would be better waiting for those countries to approve and release up-to-date vaccines.

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  • thingAmaBob@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m not sure what the data is for children, but after speaking with my doctor (who has gotten vaccinated multiple times) says they don’t believe the vaccination will be very effective this year since there is no clear data on its effectiveness. They basically they said it’s probably not worth it. They highly suggested the flu vaccine though. Take that info for what you will. I’m not sure what I’m doing yet.

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  • rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Who still cares about COVID 19

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  • happybadger@hexbear.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I just got one of the current strains. It felt just as bad as the ones in 2020. Vaccination is totally warranted.

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  • HalfSalesman@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Just got my second HPV vax and my understanding is I have to wait at least a month before I can have a different vaccine.

    That said, I intend to get the Covid and Flu vax once its been a full month. They’ve never told me I can’t do both of those at the same time.

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  • salty_chief@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I skipped my C-19 shot. The Flu shot I still get. There is a reason the C-19 shots recommendations have changed.

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  • Schlemmy@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Why? Since COVID has become something similar to a flu it’s only advisory for people with high risk profiles to get the vaccine.

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  • Bronstein_Tardigrade@lemmygrad.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This makes the wearing of N95s and routinely washing your hands triply important. Put your masks on people.

    Outside of the US, mRNA vaccines are too expensive, now that governments have ended subsidies. I’ll stick with my old school SinoVac vaccine as they’re what I can afford, and they got me thru the worst of the pandemic. Thank you Chinese government for putting people over profit.

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  • GetTwatted@lemmy.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Libz are such idiot they turned vaccine into political culture war bullshit.

    Guess what, retards, pfizer and big pharmas have been caught red-handed faking studies before.

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  • Dohnuthut@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I checked all the pharmacies in my area and no one had it, but it is now showing as available, albeit in limited quantities so I’ll be working to get us scheduled ASAP!

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