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Car crashes have killed and seriously injured roughly the same number of people as shootings in Chicago this year. Only one of these things is treated as a safety crisis in the media

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Submitted ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Davriellelouna@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world⁩

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  • count_dongulus@lemmy.world ⁨39⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    Neither of these topics should even be drawing media attention, considering how frequent and non-notable they are. They just report on this stuff every day because it’s cheaper and easier than exclusively finding and reporting on real local news, and television news needs filler content for selling ad spots. Ever had a day where there was no news, and they ended early?

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  • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net ⁨40⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    I think the math works out that each year the average American has roughly 1 in 10,000 chance of dying in a car crash and a 1 in 200 chance of being injured in a car crash (Though the second stat likely leaves out a lot of unreported injuries). The average American rolls those dice once a year.

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  • Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This doesn’t super surprise me. Driving should be taken more seriously. You’re controlling a 2 ton death machine and it shouldn’t be taken lightly.

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    • reddig33@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      We should be retaking driver tests every seven to ten years to keep our license.

      Poorly designed roads, signage, and intersections cause a lot of accidents. Think on ramps that throw you into traffic, and off-ramps that want you to get over three lanes after exiting in order to turn right at your cross street.

      Lack of traffic enforcement drives up insurance costs and reduces city revenues. Some states have cheaped out on the reflective paint used to stripe roads, so you can’t see lane dividers in the rain. More of that wonderful “deregulation” and people not wanting to pay taxes I guess.

      It also doesn’t help that many states are getting rid of car inspections for some bizarre reason. Not great to avoid shot falling off of the car in front of you when you’re going 70 mph.

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      • Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yeah my state has gotten rid of inspections and it’s baffling to me.

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      • A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It would have to be a written test to do any good. And for that to be administered properly costs money.

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    • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      it shouldn’t be taken lightly

      Well, of course not. It’s 2 tons!

      I’ll get out…

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      • AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        Not gonna make much of a difference unless you take your mum with you.

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  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Cars are not designed to inflict harm. This cheap false equivalence tells us a lot.

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    • Dozzi92@lemmy.world ⁨34⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Right. I can’t ride my gun to work or the grocery store. I get that there’s a lot of negatives associated with car culture, but it’s a tool in a way that firearms are not.

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    • limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨58⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Cars, roads, and car culture are inflicting harm though, even if it’s seen as a neutral tool by many

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  • Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Road deaths are typically viewed as a risk we take while going about our day, while firearm deaths are either an intentional act, or someone doing something very stupid.

    How many people drive a car daily in this area?

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  • maxwells_daemon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Driving is orders of magnitude more likely to kill you at any second you’re in a car, than flying is at any second you’re in a plane.

    People who are terrified of flying will get in a car and drive like a monkey like it’s no big deal.

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  • radix@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Dumb question: which one draws more media attention in Chicago?

    In my own experience (not Chicago), the local news is dominated by where the rush-hour crash is today, while national news talks way more about gun deaths.

    I’m going to go with the general vibe of Lemmy here and assume you mean that auto deaths need to get more attention in America. To that I would say there is a general cultural attitude that cars are a necessary evil (even among most people who don’t outright love them, which is a huge demographic), and fixing the zoning and infrastructure would take decades and many tens of billions of dollars to restructure a large city around public transit. Besides bumper-sticker-slogan politics (“more public transit!”) there are precious few real, concrete plans for getting from the current situation to the car-free utopia.

    Even then, you’d not eliminate cars entirely. Among the more developed western European nations that are known for good public transit, Ireland seems (at a quick glance) to have the fewest cars per person at 536 per 1,000, while the car-happy US has 850/1,000. So best case, you reduce cars by ~35%.

    Gun deaths, on the other hand, are easier to imagine as a problem that can be solved relatively quickly and with less disruption. From an advocacy point of view, it’s the lower-hanging fruit.

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  • ReasonableHat@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Genuine question: do the lines diverge (and in which direction / how much) if you account for the number of cars / guns per person?

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    • jacksilver@lemmy.world ⁨44⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      I think the better stat would be time handling a gun/driving a car.

      The average person probably spends about an hour in the car per day (based on some loose numbers I saw online). But I suspect the number of hours holding a gun is a lot less.

      Its kinda like the fact that new Yorkers bite more people than sharks. It isn’t because new Yorkers are more likely to bite you, but with eight million people interacting daily the amount of interactions outweighs the odds of a bite.

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    • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I want to see it broken down into the fatal and non-fatal portions and also the mental health of the cars at the time of the crash.

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      • adb@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I want to know how many people got shot while driving and then had a fatal car accident

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      • Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Oh is today your cake day? You have a slice next to your name.

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  • sundray@lemmus.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Fuck cars and guns, ban both.

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  • ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    this is not a valid comparison. the number of people in and around cars–and the amount of interactions that the average person has with a car–vastly outstrips those near or using guns. by at least two orders of magnitude, one would estimate.

    it’s like saying that the number of papercuts received is marginally higher than the number of intentional stab wounds and the media only focuses on one.

    that’s how it should be. one of those two things impacts a larger percentage of the people that encounter it.

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