Incognito was never about privacy. It’s about hiding your seach history from your parents or partner or whatever
It is what it is
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SonOfAntenora@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
For buying gifts, for example.
Cold_Brew_Enema@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Or masturbating to pornography
Empricorn@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
That’s adorable.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
and i’m pretty sure the browsers have been quite explicit about this for a long time now, but of course no one bothers to read “This won’t change how data is collected by websites you visit and the services they use, including Google.”
seralth@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s as far as I remember literally always said it’s basically just turning off local history, and not for true privacy. The wording has changed over the years and frankly only become more explicated and clear about that fact.
This is a rare case of google NOT being the problem here. People are misusing a tool that has always been honest about itself.
BroBot9000@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I don’t believe for a second that they are actually going to delete any data they stole from users.
Gork@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Oops offshore backup mysteriously occurred.
Godnroc@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Of course they will! First you make a copy, then you delete the copy. Contractual terms satisfied.
monogram@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
The raw data might be purged but no one talks about the ML modal that google trained with that data.
state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
UPDATE disgustingly_detailed_data SET deleted = true WHERE inkognito = true;seralth@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
To be fair nothing was stolen, the lawyers even admitted as much.
This is a user error problem caused by the moron in a hurry problem.
The warning on incognito mode both before and after the change was very explicit that it was local only. It was intended for people sharing a computer, not for privacy to anything you searched, external websites, etc
Below the warning even had examples over exactly what was and was not saved with it explicitly saying that external websites would be able to track and save your data including Google.
The change was to add that warning list to the initial warning itself because Google had assumed people would read the entire page. They did not.
Which means that those morons in a hurry who only skimmed misunderstood what incognito mode was for. Did not read the use case, the warning, the TOs, the manual, or any other information provided both explicitly or implicitly.
Hell even parted the argument of the lawyers was that this is a user issue and that Google had a responsibility to prevent people who were ignorant or in a hurry from misunderstanding. And while they made a good faith effort, it could have been better. Google being the large company is taking the fall for this more than anything but it is at the end of the day a user issue.
Landless2029@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Incognito was literally only good for opening a second session without you logged in. It did zero for privacy. Even their disclaimer said so.
DerArzt@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Incognito, you mean porn mode?
Landless2029@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Its a moor point once you sign into your Facebook account to “share with friends”
spiffpitt@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
firefox containers are amazing for this
Landless2029@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Firefox -p “Spanky”
zombaya01@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Except it only keeps cookies separated, history is shared over all containers.
Mongostein@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Incognito/Private Browsing came about when people were sharing computers more often. It doesn’t save history and cookies and whatnot on your device. It’s to prevent the next user from getting in to your bank account.
Google and whoever else will still know your IP and can use that to cross-reference whatever other data they have on you.
jim3692@discuss.online 3 weeks ago
I use private, because I am a tab hoarder
tatterdemalion@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
You guys are still using Chrome?
Lucky_777@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Incognito mode was always just to hide your local browser history. Think Google would NOT track you?
Do you have Google maps? They know where you are at all times.
camelbeard@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
User visits Google (logged in)
User visits Google, without cookies, but from the same IP, same user agent, same resolution, same OS, same enabled plugins, same browser version number, same fingerprint (based on al the previous information).
Google, who could this possibly be???
NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You mean…they know I typed “boobs” into the search bar that one time!? NOOOO!!
OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Do you have a phone? They know where your toilet is
veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The know when I’m in a theatre and automatically mute my phone. Admittedly convenient, but also super creepy
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
Do you have
Google maps?ANY UNMODIFIED GOOGLE CODE OR ANDROID IN THE HISTORY OF FOREVER?Then they know where you are at all times. I bet the Pixel users get gold stars.
OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Oh no! Anyway
PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Naming it incognito was a mistake. It was always clear to me all incognito is, is a non persistent container to keep your browsing data separate from your regular browsing data. All its hiding is your porn browsing habits from your mom. But of course, the name implies much more.
OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Good for testing instead of “clearing cache and cookies”
Leviathan@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
There were memes about this what feels like at least 10 years ago. Makes perfect sense when you think about it.
IzzyJ@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Not a mistake, intentionally deceptive
beejboytyson@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Some ones been caught with his pants down 😏
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
from your mom
…did your parents not have friends set up packet sniffers?
ballgoat@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
“Hey, so now that Chrome has been released, we’re gonna fly up to visit your son and install a packet sniffer on his network!”
burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
hey before they do that, can i look through their files on me? theres some porn i havent been able to refind anywhere
dumbass@quokk.au 3 weeks ago
Wouldn't that be amazing! I have single frames of good videos stuck in my head that I can never find again.
Shardikprime@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
There is a r/tipofmypenis for that
Maybe someone knows a Lemmy alternative
Elgenzay@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
You’ve gone Incognito. Others who use this device won’t see your activity, so you can browse more privately. This won’t change how data is collected by websites you visit and the services they use, including Google. Downloads, bookmarks and reading list items will be saved.
- Google Chrome
thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Elgenzay@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Ah, good find. I just assumed it would have been explicit about it from the start
blujan@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Man, even then it was clear what it was doing, are they supposed to list every single website you visit that might track you?
Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Um was this surprising to anyone? I think we all assumed that this was the case no???
cRazi_man@europe.pub 3 weeks ago
Doesn’t it specifically say on a new incognito tab that this doesn’t protect against sites or service providers from gathering information…and only stops you from storing local information (history, cookies, etc)? Do people actually think that incognito is adding privacy protection?
LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
That was actually a result of this issue, where Google placed misleading statements in incognito and then proceeded to actively go around them.
themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
It has somewhat of a privacy protection because it’s incapable of keeping cookies. The bar is in hell, but it passed it.
tomenzgg@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
Maybe I read it wrong but (to me) the meme makes it sound like Google’s taking the local data (that’s supposed to be forgotten, once you close the browser window) and sending it over to Google for them to, I dunno, run analysis on.
If they’re saying that Google sites (like YouTube, Google search, etc.) were collecting data when I visit them (as, unfortunately, sites do), then I’d say, “Well, duh;” but this makes it seem like they were exporting your local data off to their cloud which, like, they could obviously, technically do but wouldn’t very much be in the spirit of how Incognito mode was portrayed.
KeenFlame@feddit.nu 3 weeks ago
I think the techno illiterate boomers of the fediverse are probably flabbergasted
stoy@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Incognito was never about hiding your data from Google, it was always about preventing random websites from getting your data
m0stlyharmless@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
It doesn’t even do that. All it does is prevent persistent data from being stored from the browsing session (so, no disk cache or browsing history).
Dave@lemmy.nz 3 weeks ago
Except the part where all incognito tabs/windows share the same session.
seralth@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
From day one it is explicitly said it doesn’t do that. It’s literally always been on the main blank tab page right below the warning over what it does.
How they even had to update the wording because of all of this because people didn’t bother to read three bullet points
gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
If anyone thought that Incognito somehow protected their data from websites or services, then that’s their fault for jumping to that conclusion in the face of everything saying that’s not the case.
Also…
In lawsuits settlement
In meme sentence, words disappear.
turtlesareneat@discuss.online 3 weeks ago
That was actually their lawyer’s argument, that “incognito mode” being private was just something people assumed and ran with, not their fault.
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I mean, they called it “Incognito”.
having one’s true identity concealed
If it doesn’t conceal your identity, then that’s pretty clearly misleading. They’re not selling to experts, the users of this are laypeople. It’s like if you sold a “waterproof phone” and the packaging all made it look like it could withstand water, but then when it got wet it broke and you were like “people just assumed it was waterproof, it’s not our fault”.
Sure experts could tell, and enthusiasts would read the expert opinions on it, but that’s not something you should expect of laypeople considering how it is presented.gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Well yeah, that’s the only possible argument that the lawyer could even have.
Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
I haven’t used Chrome in years. Brave and firefox, that’s my crowd.
LordWiggle@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Brave is also Chromium.
Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
Correct. But it is not the same.
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Firefox is also a web browser.
Oh sorry, I thought we were making meaningless comparisons.
vga@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Next headline: Google promises to delete the Firefox private window data they were holding
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Firefox’s main funding was from Google being their default search engine. Which of course means anything searched in Google is recorded to the external IP address logs. So unless you are going directly to the website or changed the search engine in Firefox, yes Google was recording said information (or at least compiling the numbers for data analytics) to use for advertising purposes.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Shardikprime@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The Google Incognito tab in any browser clarifies that while it prevents your browsing history from being saved on your device, it does not make your browsing completely private.
Websites you visit, your employer (if on a work network), and your internet service provider (ISP) can still track your online activity.
Hell it even has a link that leads directly to the privacy policy
Nangijala@feddit.dk 2 weeks ago
Wait… people actually think that incognito means that they don’t record your searches??
I thought everybody knew that all incognito does is preventing your searches from showing up in your search history.
Did anyone actually think that these big tech companies would willingly give you an option to keep your searches private from them?
Hello???
Always assume that everything you do online is being recorded and seen by someone. Unless you’re a master computer wiz or whatever the fuck they call it these days, ALWAYS ASSUME YOUR ACTIVITY ONLINE IS PUBLIC.
Bieren@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s Google. If you are shocked by this, you deserve to be tracked.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 2 weeks ago
People mistaking incognito mode for a VPN or Tor.
frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 2 weeks ago
Glad I don’t use Chrome lol
sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If you care about your privacy, don’t use products from a company whose entire business model is built on invading your privacy.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Things do the opposite of what their name says they do. We’ve been in 1984/F451 bizarro world for a while, now.
altphoto@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Go to the website directly! Porn hub is not hard to spell! I spell it all the time even using no fingers at all!
vga@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
They are fully capable of extracting profile data from you even if you’re in incognito/private mode. And it doesn’t matter what browser you are using.
Zenith@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
But they still won’t they’ll just make a more hidden copy
NotAGamer@lemmy.org 3 weeks ago
Am I the only one who only used incognito by accident when intending to select “open in new tab” from the context menu?
Cattail@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
yeah im part of that class action and i get so many text asking about it
Karl@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
So this is why the weird shite I look up in incognito comes up when I search something without incognito mode.
lowered_lifted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
People really need to learn about VPNs and advertising ID numbers and also how your ISP is selling your activity
JaffnaCakes@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
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samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
“He’s the one who knocks!”
altphoto@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
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