Can deliberate noise harassment still be a crime if it's done every day from 7:30 AM till 10:30-11:30 PM?

Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Tiffany1994@lemmy.cafe⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

We have an 83 or 84 year old neighbour who is said to have schizophrenia. I live with my mum and my brother and we live in the UK.

He has it in for my brother, accusing him of all kinds of weird things like “he’s stealing my water supply” “he’s blocking my TV” “he’s cloning my phone” “he’s going out into the garden at night making wolf noises to wake me up” (we have foxes visit our garden often, and you can hear them in the streets also).

Last year he started blasting his radio every day from 7:30 AM until 10:30 to 11:30 PM. Then, on most nights at 1:30 AM he’ll set off an extremely loud siren and then start screaming and occasionally throwing stuff at the wall/his room. My mum has cancer and she really does not need this.

I went over to his house about the noise, giving him the benefit of the doubt because he’s hearing impaired and has hearing aids, but then he explained to me he’s doing this on purpose to stop my brother from sleeping during the day because my brother is “going into the garden at night making these wolf noises to wake me up”.

We ended up calling the police on him last year, and shortly after that, he stopped and was silent. We had 8 months of silence and now he suddenly started again. The radio, the sirens and the screaming at 1:30 AM. We’ve done nothing to him.

My mum found out that the radio or TV (whatever it is) isn’t just in one room, it’s in EVERY room of his house (we live in a joined house). She found out that when it goes off, they all go off at once, so my mum concluded he has his radio/TV hooked up to some speaker system aimed at the walls. He knows my mum isn’t well and he’s been doing this for 2 weeks straight now.

We did call the police Friday night and he hasn’t done the siren at 1:30 AM since but he wasn’t setting the siren off every night before that either. It’s keeping us all on edge.

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Aliktren@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Phone the police again, phone the coincil and make a noise complaint, then phone citizens advice bureau for free advice on where you stand. If he is a tenant complain to the landlord as well. Very sorry to hear all this and hope your Mum is ok because #fuckcancer

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- Tiffany1994@lemmy.cafe ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Thank you. Will do. I was worried the police won’t do anything because it’s not blasting at night. I’ll give them a call! Mum’s doing the best she can and I’m doing my best to take care of her
  
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  - UndulyUnruly@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Most jurisdictions, including councils and their relevant bylaws, prohibit any type of nuisance behaviour. It matters not if the nuisance manifests during day time or not. What matters in context of noise is frequency, duration, volume, intensity, droning and pitch. You, as property owner or tenant, have a right to the peaceful enjoyment of your property.
    
    The council’s environmental health officer is typically the appropriate POC for these matters. They may ask you to provide a journal of events (you can write this retrospectively if this is a regular occurrence), and/or they may choose to attend themselves to verify during times in question or if you advise them as such.
    
    Out of council hours, they usually ask for the police to be called so there’s a record/independent witness. There is nothing stopping you from calling the police during daytime.
    
    The council may ask you if you’re comfortable to try and talk to the offending party to resolve the issue. Decline this vehemently and state that you fear for your safety (especially since this guy appears to be mentally ill!). Let them deal with the matter, it’s their job.
    
    I feel bad for the bloke who’s ill, but conversely you do not need to suffer from his illness, and neither does your mum.
    
    I wish you best of luck.
    
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  - Aliktren@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    If all else fails phone the local newspaper and contact your mp, good luck
    
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    If you own the house, and you live in the UK, then bear in mind you legally need to disclose formal disputes with neighbours when selling the property.
    
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PixellatedDave@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Keep a log of every time he does this. Also log every time you call police/council and include dates of all this when you next call.

It’s a good idea to send complaints by email too as there is a paper trail.

When you call the police/council log the time of the call and the name of the person you speak to and mention this in future calls, "I spoke to Josh 4 days ago and he advised…”

I believe the council still provides a noise meter to record loud prolonged noises.

Any time he is in your garden brandishing anything then call the police and advise them that he is on your property with a weapon.

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- Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Exactly this. A detailed log and evidence is important.
  
  Also, talk to your other neighbours and see if they have, or would report it.
  
  As it is, resident B has 2 noise complaints in 8 months from resident A. Without evidence of all the rest of it, this fits all sorts of scenarios. People make malicious complaints all the time and the authorities (rightfully) shouldn’t just take your word for it that there’s a long history.
  
  Always have receipts
  
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alehel@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
If calling the police gave you 8 months the first time, I’d say calling them again is a logical step. It clearly had an effect last time.

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- Etterra@discuss.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Call them every single time. Press charges. If he can’t/won’t learn to behave and the cops never arrest him, then you might need to switch to a lawsuit. I didn’t know how the laws work in the UK, but it sounds like you need to go full (legal) agro. Maybe there’s a law that can get him locked up in a mental hospital; talk to a lawyer.
  
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- FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  If it was me I’d personally call the police every single night that the neighbor does this. 2 things will happen. 1. The cops finally take more drastic action and the issue is solved. Or 2. The cops tell you they can’t keep responding to this and tell you to stop calling them. Either way, i would call them every day and see what happens. I think that’s really all OP can do realistically do, other than moving…
  
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  - BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    If I was calling every day about a legitimate issue (blasting an alarm in the middle of the night is legitimate), and they told me to knock it off, not only would I keep calling, I’d start calling every elected official at every level - municipal, county, state, federal (I’m in America). The police chief, the mayor, my city councilman, my county commissioner, my congressman, and my senator would all be getting daily calls and emails, and I would make sure to inform them that the reason they are hearing from me is because local police officers (name them if possible) refuse to do their jobs and address the problem.
    
    The issue would be resolved within the week.
    
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- daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Second this. Keep calling. 8 months at a time… With 84 years it’s not that many times isn’t it?
  
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darreninthenet@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
You’re probably already keeping a detailed log of every incident, and recording evidence - keep doing it

Go to the local council environmental nuisance team

They provide a noise meter (or sometimes app for your phone) to record proof

After a few incidents they can serve him with a noise abatement order

If for some reason they won’t, as long as you’ve followed the process above you can apply to Magistrate’s Court directly for a noise abatement order and both parties will get summoned to put forward their sides.
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- FellowEnt@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Currently going through this, the council wrote the order, took it to my neighbour, who promptly talked them out of serving it. Said he’d be quiet. Wish it worked like that for parking tickets.
  
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- ikidd@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  This guy councils.
  
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markpaskal@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Ok, I have been in this situation. I was the crazy schizophrenic neighbour.

This does not go well for you unless you avail yourself of every avenue to protect yourself. This person is mentally ill and their illness causes them to have delusions about your brother and your family. Whatever they are hearing is making them think that they need to react by terrorizing you. In their mind they are protecting themselves. It is very possible that this escalates to violence.

You need to communicate regularly with the police and ask if there is a community mental health liason officer who you can be put into contact with. You need to keep a journal of every communication back and forth and every action the neighbour takes against you. Over time keep building a case until you can have the police detain them under whatever mental health laws you have.

You also need to supply a constant stream of documentation of the behaviour to your landlord. They can take action to preserve their property in the face of a mental illness that very well might burn it down.

I’m really sorry this is happening to you. Feel sorry for your neighbour if you want but advocate for yourselves and your needs first here.

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- philpo@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Healthcare professional with some experience in mental health and emergency medicine here: This is the way to go . Your problem is NOT the noise. The noise is a nuisance but not dangerous. The fixation on your brother is. Because there is a high risk here,that once “noise” doesn’t cut it from the point of view of the patient, he will resolve to other means.
  
  As said before:
  
  Document everything, make a detailed protocol about everything he does or says towards you.
  
  Call the police, especially when he threatens you or your brother or claims he is intruding. Make sure that every member of your household is as polite as possible to the officers. If they refuse to do something accept this but kindly ask for their names or collar numbers and the name of their chief constable. Then write a very polite letter to the CC making it clear that you understand the difficulties the officers face but how you feel threatened and miserable and ask for help and advice to resolve this. (Why being polite? Because then it is nearly impossible for any copper to frame this as a *neighbours dispute" or anything - and coppers in the UK are far more inclined to help “members of the public” they see as pure victims themselves)
  
  Depending on where in the UK you live contact your “Single Point of Access” mental health team. They are, well, the single point of access for mental health and by definition also are the contact points for friends,family,etc. of mental health patients.There is a good chance of them already knowing him, so that might help. Also,if your mom gets sicker from the whole ordeal, call her an ambulance - more freely than normal, to get that on the file. (And yes,I know this is a moral grey zone)
  
  Call your council both in terms of mental health and nuisance laws. Be nice,but pressure them to do something.
  
  Find out who the landlord of the neighbour is (if he doesn’t own) and contact him as well as your own landlord.
  
  Again,let me repeat: The noise is not your problem. The noise is just a symptom of your problem and when the noise goes away and the problem is not resolved something else will come up - very likely something worse.
  
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Fondots@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I don’t know the laws or systems in place in the UK for this, but I work in 911 dispatch in the US, and I can’t imagine that something like this is too radically different across the pond

As long as the cops in your area are fairly responsive (I know a couple departments in my county will take their sweet-ass time responding to a noise complaints) call every time he does something.

Yes, you’re going to get sick of it, but more importantly the cops are going to get sick of it too. They really don’t want to be out at your neighbors house over this every day/week/month/8moths, or however often he does it. Before too long he’s going to get hit with fines and other consequences. Once or twice they might issue a warning

Speak to the officers every time. Make sure they’re seeing and hearing what you’re seeing and hearing, get it on video if you have to, don’t give them an opportunity to write it off because they drove by the house and “didn’t hear anything.”

Tell them he’s schizophrenic, refusing to take his meds, tell them he’s harassing you, that last part is important, tell them you want to file a report for harassment, discuss what your options are- pressing changes, restraining orders, whatever they may be, and pursue them. You’ll probably have paperwork and court dates and such, it sucks, but that’s how the process works.

Be prepared for retaliation from him in some form. Get security cameras, try to avoid any contact with him if you can avoid it. He already has delusions that you’re conspiring against him, and having the cops show up at his door repeatedly are going to feed right into that, it’s not out of the question that he might get violent, or start vandalizing your property.

Continue to report anything he says and does to you, no matter how small, each incident you document builds a stronger case for more consequences. Every time he accuses your brother of making wolf noises, or hacking his phone, any weird interaction at all, make sure you’re documenting it with the police.

Try to catch his niece when she’s over, explain the situation, explain that you’re going to have to take legal action if it doesn’t stop, see if she can possibly talk sense into him, or possibly if she or other family might be able to pursue some sort of involuntary commitment for him (read up on your local laws about that, I have no idea what they’re like in the UK except that I think it’s called “sectioning” over there, I suspect that you wouldn’t be able to start that process, it would probably need to be done by a relative, the police, or a medical/mental health professional)

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- Luouth@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Totally agree on the harassment angle. That’s where you’ll get the police to listen. Had to take a similar approach with a paranoid schizophrenic neighbour who equally did not take his meds. The harassment angle allowed them to involve other agencies such as mental health and care workers to improve his situation, and in turn, ours.
  
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- Tiffany1994@lemmy.cafe ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Thanks for the detailed advice! I appreciate it a ton. I’ve got the radio/TV blasting and the siren/screaming recorded. He is a frail old man, he’s almost in an L shape. He did once go out into his garden shouting for my brother (my mum heard it and said it was mostly incomprehensible) with a frying pan in his hand. That was over a year ago. When he yells and screams after playing the siren we can’t make out what he’s saying. We already have a doorbell camera so if he comes to the door we’ll receive a notification about it and it’ll be recorded.
  
  My mum has all his texts he sent her accusing my brother saved. These texts go years back so it’s all documented. When his niece comes over again we’ll see if we can talk to her. She did hide his siren before but she says he’ll probably end up ordering a new one from Amazon which is what seems to have happened here.
  
  In the UK it is called sectioning. I’m not sure what the specific criteria are besides causing harm to others or ones self, I’ll have to research it more in the meantime. Once again I really appreciate the advice, we’ve all been so stressed out lately and something has to be done because we’re not putting up with this every day for months or even years
  
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  - Fondots@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    And I do want to just reiterate that the harassment angle is really what you want to play up with the police.
    
    I don’t know the specifics of how policing and such works in your area, but there’s a pretty big difference between “my neighborhood is an inconsiderate jerk who plays his music too loud” and “my neighbor is intentionally targeting me with loud music and sirens to disturb our sleep”
    
    The first one is a noise complaint, that’s low priority for the police and depending on where you are maybe not even a police issue but something like code enforcement.
    
    The second one is a police issue, it’s harassment. This will vary from one jurisdiction to another, but where I work depending on some of the details I might enter that as “suspicious activity” or even a “disturbance” (basically a fight) which should get police there with some urgency.
    
    And some of the other things you’ve said, like him walking around outside with a frying pan, I could definitely make an argument for putting in those calls as a “wellbeing check” or “suspicious person,” and if he’s acting particularly threatening maybe even “armed subject,” or possibly as a psych emergency to also send EMS to hopefully get him taken to a hospital for a psych eval.
    
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feddup@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
The correct approach would be to keep calling the police/making a complaint every time it happens, build up evidence etc. perhaps speak with someone with legal knowledge. Complain to local authorities.

Or fight back, the way I imagine doing it is to get a huge amp pressed against his wall and blast death metal for all hours he’s trying to sleep.

Also glitter bombs/dog poop/piss disks through his door until he gets the message.

Pay someone to steal his speakers.

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- morphballganon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Don’t pay someone to steal something. The police will view conspiracy to commit theft much more harshly than blasting music.
  
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  - feddup@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Perhaps I should have put a /s, agree, dont pay someone to do it, they can sell the speakers afterwards anyway
    
    /s
    
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  - Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    You’re right.
    
    If you’re going to do that, don’t get caught.
    
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- mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Yup, keep calling so you can make a paper trail. Cops don’t know it’s an issue unless you tell them, so keep calling and keep making reports. Once enough stack up, they’ll be able to take action. But you need to prove a pattern of behavior, and that takes more than a single call. Take video too, if you can.
  
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SaneMartigan@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Start going out in the garden at night and making wolf noises. This sounds like an untreated mental health issue. If no one (council, cops, ambulance) is going to respond to the current levels, try to increase them. Consider calling in a welfare check rather than a noise complaint.

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- Coreidan@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Shit advice.
  
  Escalating the situation will not improve it.
  
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throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I mean, if cops arent doing shit, and the neighbor aren’t listening to reason, you have to take matters in your own hands.

Make the same noise they did while they sleep. See how they like it.

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- Joshi@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Escalating conflict with someone with delusions of persecution is exactly the wrong thing to do.
  
  Not knowing the system in the UK means I can’t give very good specific advice. You may be able to contact a local mental health network and there is a good chance they will know him. Let them know what is going on in as much detail as possible and suggest that he is increasingly agitated and alienating himself from the community. It sounds like this gentleman needs a conpulsory treatment order or whatever the UK equivalent is.
  
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  - Tiffany1994@lemmy.cafe ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    UK equivalent is known as sectioning
    
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- MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Blasting Baby Shark on loop 24/7 for the entire weekend while OP and his family goes away.
  
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  - hefejefe@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Yeah, relocate the family, and return the favor by blasting EDM 24/7. Either they’ll stop, or they’ll burn the whole house down.
    
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- RegalPotoo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Maybe don’t engage in a war of escalation with unstable people
  
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  - throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    In game theory, the best strategy is called “Tit For Tat”: Be nice at first, but strike back (in equal proportion to what they did) if they refuse to cooperate.
    
    OP already tried being nice. You can’t live life being a pushover.
    
    A society cannot be tolerant of the intolerant.
    
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- null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Thus is childish and unlikely to lead to a solution.
  
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- SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Yeah do that if you want to get stabbed to death. The neighbor has mental issues.
  
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Jarix@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
If its actual radio, you could get a small bluetooth radio transmitter (you can buy them at best buy to connect your phone to car selecting the frequency, don’t know if you will find a strong enough one to broadcast to his place from bestbuy though) and then you can choose what sounds come out of his speakers, your favorite music, audiobook, porn, silence?

This might be illegal if you’re transmission is too strong, check local guidelines

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- Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  oh boy would this trigger his delusions
  
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  - janus2@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    “This is the voice of God. I am giving you a divine order to go seek mental health treatment at an intensive inpatient care facility immediately.”
    
    (/s, obvs. don’t do that lol)
    
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LadyButterfly@lazysoci.al ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I’m really sorry this is happening it’s fucking rough. I’d refer him to social services as well, he needs MH treatment but won’t do it himself. He may be bad enough for them to section him IDK.

He’s also likely with your local doctors I’d ring them too.

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gmtom@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Keep calling the police. If they don’t want to do anything I’ve found that telling them if they don’t help you that saying something like “okay well me and my mates will ‘sort him Jim out’ ourselves” kicks them in to action.

I did something similar 2 years ago when I found the address of a guy who stole my bag. They didn’t want to help until I implied I might confront him myself, possibly with a weapon.

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- meekah@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I don’t really have any experience with situations like this, but I’d be cautious of suggesting such things. Worst case they don’t do anything, and something happens to the neighbor and suddenly you have a lot of trouble waiting for you.
  
  I know here in Germany you can create a log of all the occurrences of your neighbor being loud, end if it is excessive a court can order your neighbor to be silent. If your neighbor then breaks the order, the police will actually do something. Not sure how things work in the UK tho
  
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Moonweedbaddegrasse@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Have you talked to the Council? They normally have officers who sort shit like this out.

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millie@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I don’t know how it works in the UK, but if possible I’d look into getting a protection order against harassment. Definitely gather whatever evidence you can (a security camera might be a good investment), but with someone like this they may very well tell on themselves if it goes to court. A reasonable person wouldn’t be doing something like this in the first place, so they may well make it readily apparent that this is the sort of thing they think is acceptable in a court room. Especially if they’ve admitted to you to doing it on purpose.

If you’re able to request police body camera footage, it might be worth it to do that after calling in a noise complaint, and if you share a hallway you might be able to record the interaction yourself if not. If you rent and do share a hallway, consider asking your landlord to install a camera in a shared space so that you can get footage that way. Make sure to check the laws in your area regarding consent for recording. If you’re allowed to record secretly, maybe you can get them to admit it again on camera.

I had a similar situation to this with a transphobic neighbor who was doing this for about 6 months. A court date got it squared away. It might help in your situation too.

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Machinist@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
It’s your mama with cancer really being hurt here. Ethically, that gives you options. Sucks for your neighbor, he can’t help it.

Fastest solution is to wait for him to leave the house and post a lookout. Make entry and destroy every speaker you can find. Decorate broken items with something that is a feature of his behavior such as a common phrase or food item.

When he gets home and throws a fit, call the cops on him and deny everything and act frustrated and put out. Talk about your sick mother. This may fix it, it not, at least make it much better.

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- erev@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  absolutely insane take
  
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  - Machinist@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I’m being downvoted to hell for it, but I’ve done similar things in the past. I’m used to corrupt ineffective cops, sometimes you just have fix shit and be done with it.
    
    IDK, it’s redneck but a quick frame up would at least end the noise.
    
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- xpgld@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Well. I think we found the schizophrenic neighbor.
  
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Steve@communick.news ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I’ve had success imagining the reaction a bully is looking for, or expecting; Then giving them a reaction that confounds whatever they had in mind. Don’t play their game. Make a new game for you to play. One they won’t understand.

My first thought in this case, is to stop by and give him a list of requests you’d like him to play the next morning. If he immediately refuses, just ignore what he says and thank him, because his sound system is way better than yours. That interaction will confuse the hell out of him. He might just stop. If he does or no, go back the next day and ask why he didn’t play your request list. If he did play your list, go back and thank him, by giving him another list of music from someone else in your family.

That’s just off the top of my head, maybe you can some up with something better. Just remember to make it your game, not his.

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theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I’m surprised the police actually came out at all, they usually don’t give a fuck.

As someone else said you need to go to the council, they will have a department specifically for noise complaints and anti social shit like this. You will probably need to fill out a form online and then they have officers for this specific problem who will call you and probably come out to visit. They will be your best recourse to finding a solution to this.

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CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I’m an American so I don’t understand why you haven’t just put a couple 30 round mags through the wall with your AR-15?

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Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Ok the only people that can help you are the council, noise complaints are the responsibility your local council unfortunately, given the cuts that have happened over the years this means that they are underfunded. What you need to do is get the local noise complaints number and call it every single time it happens. This is what is called a statutory noise complaint. Just Google it. At the same time you need to start a noise complaint diary,

the columns are date, start time, end time, severity*, weather, and details.

Severity is on a scale of 0 to 4, with 0 been nothing and 4 been OMFG argh. Details need to include what type of noise it is and most importantly how it affects you. Headache? Lack of sleep, emotional distress? Got to town however remember that this is going to be a legal document that could get used in court eventually. Also important is to do it daily even if there is no noise. Include if you are away on holiday etc if it regularly happens on a weekend etc. The council should send you this info after the first couple of incidents

Now for the nighttime banging on the walls and screaming, if it just randomly starts in the middle of the night that sounds to me like someone is or could be having domestic abuse. I apologise in advance if this upsets people. You should contact the police and let the know that.

If any of your neighbours are affected try to get the in on it as well, it’s much more effective with multiple people.

Eventually you will be asked to place a “noise recording device” in the room that is most affected, at this point you know something is finally going to be done about, eventually…

If you have any remote possibility of moving house in the next year or so don’t go down this route as i believe that you have to declare it to the next house buyer

The problem we have in the UK is that most of the laws, procedures and police are built around people not wanting to be complete knobheads. Unfortunately the people have realised this and also realised there are no consequences for their actions

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SloppyPuppy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Disconnect his apartment from electricity. Maybe his breakers are outside. His main water valve is definitely outside, close it frequently.

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- SkyezOpen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Schizo accelerationsim. Don’t know if I approve but either way it’ll be interesting.
  
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pleasegoaway@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
If you want to go the unethical route, tell the police that he’s wandering naked in his yard waving a knife and yelling threats.

Maybe after enough calls, he’ll get committed, which it sounds like that’s where he needs to be.

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- steeznson@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  This is the best idea in the thread and will yield immediate results. If the neighbour is unwell enough to harass a random family then getting them committed might actually be doing them a favour.
  
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randon31415@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Do they still sell those novelty toy mics that broadcast and speakers pick it up?

I’m not telling you what to do with that, but there are many options.

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jagged_circle@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I recommend moving some place with proper sound isolation between neighbors.

Or build a “room within a room” to insulate your own house, but its a very expensive retrofit

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- Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  People don’t live in shared dwelling residences because they thought they’d really enjoy sharing walls…
  
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  - jagged_circle@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Sharing walls shouldn’t be noticeable if the walls are designed property
    
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- agent_nycto@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Some people can’t afford to just move, like if they are dealing with cancer, for example.
  
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SplashJackson@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
You need to get a wolf statue to put in his garden so that can become the locus of his night terrors, be sure to put a speaker in the wolf statue so you can make it talk to him, then claim that you (as the wolf, naturally) are God, and you have granted him the power to walk through walls

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- _stranger_@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I’d have said the power to stop trains with telekinesis. You’re a better person than me.
  
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CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Somehow I read it as your brother having schizophrenia and got really confused.

Continue to involve authorities, but u fortunately mental health funding keeps getting slashed. There may be a social worker centre you could reach out to for more information.

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Hikermick@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Show him YouTube videos of the fox making the same noise? Hopefully you can convince him

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Evotech@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Dudes probably got dementia or something

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Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
A friend of mine had a similar issue. Also UK, West London a guy was blasting his car stereo every night in front of his garage, often till 8-9 pm, in some cases during the night while having some weird people over. It was very loud, walls vibrating, etc

Various neighbours called the police on him at least 5 times but nothing happened, he turned off the music for a while, ignored the cops and turned it back on after they left.

They told them they need hard proof to do anything, this would involve getting a regular recording of the music and they should measure the decibels and vibrations to prove how disturbing it is to start anything. It was just the most bizarre way of telling people the local council and police will do nothing. Who the fuck has this kind of equipment and knowledge to do this?

Needless to say nothing happened. My friend moved to another place because of work within 6 months.

I do hope in your case the local law enforcement will be more competent, I wish I could give you an actual advice instead of a story :(

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Tronn4@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Kick his ass

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- steeznson@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  This will resolve OPs problem by moving them to prison but their mother will still be in trouble.
  
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