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On our own instance no less lmao
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Before joining Lemmy: “It really doesn’t matter what instance you join, you’ll be able to see content from all over.”
After joining Lemmy: “So you’ve enlisted in .world, eh? Welcome to the fight, soldier!”
Well, my 1st matrix account was on the kiwifarms’ server. Nope, I didn’t know tf kiwifarms was at the time, I just liked the name
One thing is certain is that I’m currently on page 12 of lemmy.ml and nowhere do they whine about .world.
Then you didn’t look hard enough, whenever .world comes up it’s always we’re some flavor of a CIA front, US military front, or reddit-lite
They don’t often call for defederation because doing so would cut off a huge chunk of content
Average day in the life of a guy from .world
.ml vs .world fights are always hilarious. And for that reason, they should stay federated.
I’m on lemmy.ml and most of the communities I interact with are on lemmy.world. Most people are normal about it.
If they ever defederated, it would be incredibly disruptive since certain communities exist mostly on one or the other.
these memes are always so tortured, the reason I comment in theae threads is because it’s funny content and routinely the actual reasons people are mad at .ml is getting banned/censored its for being bigoted
the actual reasons people are mad at .ml is getting banned/censored for being bigoted
Where’s my bigotry? As of yesterday I was banned from a ton of .ml communities for “Troll” despite not having posted a single comment or post anywhere in .ml for a long time now.
In fact lots of people are banned for “Troll” or other “catch-all” rules for the audacity of bringing up things like the Uyghur genocide that China is doing or that Russia attacked a country unprovoked and wholly unjustified or even the fact that China is, in fact, Authoritarian
I got banned from a few .ml communities because they started circlejerking about how great the taliban is and I dared to point out that they’re shitty and evil xD
Where’s my bigotry? As of yesterday I was banned from a ton of .ml communities for “Troll” despite not having posted a single comment or post anywhere in .ml for a long time now.
If you haven’t posted there for a long time now why the fuck do you care, idiot?
I federated with your mum last night.
If just for the purpose of avoiding centralisation, I think we should make an effort to not have everything on .world.
But I agree, it’s my personal opinion that my instance should defederate from ML on grounds of genocide denial.
Of the people who say anything about it, there seems to be two mutually exclusive camps of people on Lemmy in regards to how it should be structured.
There’s those who want it to be a drop-in replacement for whatever platform they migrated from (Reddit, ususally), with everything cultured in one simple, easy-to-browse place where there’s enough activity to support diversity, just without the enshittification, even though the centralization they crave is exactly what invites the enshittification…
…and then there’s those who specifically want the site to stay fragmented, because that’s the whole point of federation, it keeps out all the riff raff, and prevents the platform from losing what makes it so great. But many of them complain about why it isn’t growing as fast as they’d like it to, despite the fact that the fragmentation of community is by far the single greatest barrier preventing the mass adoption they yearn for.
Each one seems to want a piece of what the other has.
Individuals have the power to block instances so I don’t really understand why people are pushing for defederation. Just feels like ruining the fun for everyone just because they aren’t having fun and aren’t using the resources they have to make it fun. Defederation should be a last resort, and people seem to want to use it for petty squabbles. I don’t like .ml or hexbear cause they’re both tankies, but I’ll just block the instances myself. Don’t get why we gotta remove the choice from everyone else. But hey, I’m on .dbzer0 so if .world wants to defederate from .ml it isn’t gonna affect me any
To be fair, if Lemmy’s discoverability wasn’t trash you could probably have both. I would love to have a bunch of small instances that were focused on individual topics, like Star Trek or anime or knitting or gardening or whatever and just jump between them. It feels like that’s what federation was built for.
But because Lemmy is so small right now and discoverability is so bad it seems like almost every instance is either intentionally a tech / general purpose one or so adjacent it might as well be. As long as there’s just one community for that thing that people can find that would be great, but instead there are like 10 spread around 3 different instances and 8 of them are dead and 1 just bot reposts the subreddit - and it’s really hard to tell which is which. Like, if everything was actually on one instance at least you could just list everything.
It’s almost like the saying “the grass is greener” is a reoccurring human phenomenon, lol.
I personally like the idea of many instances, but it would be great if there were a way of doing something about communities that are attempting to fill the same niche. For example, there are 3-4 small-mid sized photography communities with very similar rules and moderation styles. Maybe the mods could agree to form an alliance and somehow federate posts and comments across the community? If something goes sideways they could always break off the community level federation.
obviously i wouldnt mind if lemmy grows, but I’m quite content with the current active user base.
If it worked like that, everyone would have defederated .world cca December 2023.
[lemmings.world/comment/12887033](Yeah we should really defederate from instances that host genocide denialism)
I would take you a little seriously if you weren’t a one hour old account with a single issue.
So did the United Nations Human Rights Council, two years ago. euractiv.com/…/setback-for-the-west-un-body-rejec…
Westerners are easy to agitate because they live relatively cushy lives. I am not saying just because someone isn’t living in extreme poverty, they should be grateful. I am saying consider who is agitating you and why. More often than not, they just want to be the ones to control you, and hate that someone else is doing it instead. They don’t want what’s best for you.
I’ve seen more complaining about ml than the actual things they’re complaining about. It’s pointless infighting among an otherwise like minded community. Even hexbear doesn’t deserve it.
Calm down. Have a hot chocolate and enjoy the season and masturbate thinking about linux to distract from societal collapse like the rest of us.
I’ve been banned from the entire .ml instnce and all its communities for daring to talk about the uyghur genocide.
Yes, we need to defederate now.
Is Xi wanted by the ICC for genocide right now?
No? Maybe you should shut the fuck up then, Mr european.
Right? I never see the tankie shit they’re talking about. Yesterday I saw a guy on world saying there is no genocide in gaza.
I’ve been banned from a number of ml instances for saying that communism isn’t that great actually
Noooo. That’s so weird. Did it hurt your feeling?
I get banned from world for saying americans were wrong to support genocide in gaza.
Wasn’t there a post earlier about this exact thing lol. Can you lot make a community for whinging about something you have control over? That would be great for all.
Good lord, and any criticism of an authoritarian communist government and they expose just how much they love the taste of boots.
Once, I was called a “debate pervert” and then banned from a community with “debate pervert” given as the reason.
Why?
I dared to point out that a user’s comment was full of logical fallacies.
They hate that, because there’s no way to argue back against it.
Okay, but debate pervert is really funny, though.
I’ve seen people banned with “liberal” being the reason.
Nice set of logical fallacies in this comment, and I don’t see any citations supporting your anecdote.
Fallacy fallacy: only because it contains a fallacy (or a bunch) the argument isn’t necessarily void.
Still stacking fallacies isn’t usually a sign of a good and or valid argument.
I would tolerate them a little more if it weren’t for the constant brigading.
Wanna analyze Marxist-Leninist-Maoist theory, self-crit, and all that good stuff? Fine by me, I like discussion of varying viewpoints. But often it’s not about that but are bad faith arguments and whataboutisms about how the decadent West is ruled by the US and how Putin/Kim did nothing wrong.
It’s exhausting. I don’t go into their subs and rattle on about liberal market economics.
You couldn’t be more right. Take a look around, and you’ll see they’re here in the comments.
“authoritarian communist” is an oxymoron to begin with. how can you build a society where everyone is equal by enforcing authority
Well, every so called communist government has been one, so there are examples…
These instances wars really prove that people attack other people because of any difference they can find.
Really only see weirdly online .world users making posts about it.
Yes what the fuck is up with that? If you don’t like marxism-leninism, you can keep that to yourself. Stop shoving your politics down everyone’s throats with these cringe-ass memes. Just having a .world account makes me feel second-hand embarrassment for people like op
Lmao
Same single .world user making all these posts.
Duly noted. Blocking this one along with the other serial whiners.
So? It’s the same .ml users complaining.
Hey, guys. So, I haven’t received any of my payouts from the CIA yet and I have pocket knives and stuff to buy, so… Is there like somebody in HR I can email about this or something?
Elgin air force base administrates most programs. You probably have to do basic training, but you may be able to work form home. Recruiters will promise that none of the fine print that enslaves you to mobile infantry role will ever be applied to you. After all, if we are successful in fighting humanity over here, we won’t need you to fight it in Ukraine or Russia or China, and citizenship requires service.
Mobile infantry, you say? My desire to know more has suddenly intensified.
You can just talk to Jerry. He’s the guy in the grey sedan across your street. If you give him the code word, he’ll give you the package.
And if not, you can reach Garry inside your walls. He’ll file a complaint with the higher-ups
It’s all funny but I thought it weird how .world deleted down all pro Luigi posts that first week.
The News community did because it promoted violence or whatever their reason was, but there were tons of pro Luigi posts and comments in the memes communities that I don’t remember being deleted. It was not a .world wide thing.
You gotta sling them an email at: Shirlab@ucia.gov
They should be able to put you in touch with accounts.
I’m pretty happy to be off .world and exposed to the slightly wider 'verse. The MLs and Hexbears aren’t all that bad. I’ve seen some absolute dogshit leftist takes from some of them, but I’ve seen plenty of dogshit “centrism” on .world too.
Ultimately, you just have to do some of your own blocking/moderating work, while trying to remember that only anarchists are always right and to be patient while everyone else catches up.
yeah .world has some weird vibes, I don’t think it’s exactly centrist but I don’t like how the vocal ones there seem to have a superiority complex against ml, hexbear and lemmygrad.
I don’t like many of the communities on these instances either but I don’t think that .world users should be the ones to hold the power and cry to the wider fediverse when we don’t do exactly what they do
the vocal ones there seem to have a superiority complex against ml, hexbear and lemmygrad.
Those vocal ones who tend to call ‘genocide denial’ and ‘genocide apologia’ have a track record of supporting Israel in Gaza or outright glorifying Imperial Japan and chinese warlords. They’re well aware of the absurdity, which is the point of their drive to enter leftist spaces.
The same folk tend to enter lgbtq and trans spaces to gatekeep definitions there–where they also get banned and then complain about it.
You just know something really rattled OP and made them post this
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Sorry for being late to the party, but did you know that you can just block them? Hope this helps!
It’s much more fun to remove their ability to troll entirely, though. It makes them squirm.
Welcome to a tutorial on how to block .ml on your personal account.
In the top right corner of the top of the page, there are 3 horizontal white bars. Click it.
This will open up a drop down menu. At the bottom of that menu, you will see your username. Click it.
This will open another drop down menu with 3 options. Click “Settings”.
At the top of your screen you will see 2 tabs. Click the one that says “Blocks”.
Here you will see “Block user” “Block community” and “Block instance”. Click the down arrow below “Block instance”.
This will open up a search bar. Type “lemmy.ml” and click it after it shows up.
That’s it! You’ve blocked .ml and will never see content from the instance. Now you don’t need to make a feud post every day complaining about .ml and other instances you disapprove of. Think of all the time you will save!
But wait, we aren’t done yet in this menu. Click the down arrow under “Block user”. Now type “UltraGiGaGigantic” Make sure you select my .ml account as the other ones I no longer use. Thanks, appreciate it.
“Please block me so I can continue posting slop unopposed”
I mean… it helps. I’ve seen less tankies after blocking .ml subs, but they’re still there
Every comment I get from .ml is just weird and bad.
The plural of anecdote is not data, but 90% of comments that I’ve seen defending russia in particular had been from .ml
Anecdata.
The plural of anecdote is “in my experience”
One non hateful comment. Have a nice Weekend fella!
Though since everyone hates this instance I am thinking about moving to another.
There’s a lot of good options!
Inb4 YoU CaN jUsT bLOcK uSsSSs
You mad bro?
How many feud posts does this make this week? 2? 3?
Maybe you should post just one more this weekend, as a treat for yourself and all your hard work.
That said, defederate away. People should choose their own path through life. Who the hell would want to tell people how to use lemmy? Well, except you for some weird reason.
Man all i did was just chose an instance…
Chronically online posting
.world is hosted in a fascist country.
It regularly host genocide denialism.
And more importantly, they are whining about tankies and communism every other day. De-federate, do not de-federate, I don’t care, idiot. Quit spamming. I wish normal instances would defederate from .world and you don’t see me writing memes about it.
Is this a shitpost?
What would ya’ll do without each other though?
Honestly it’s kinda sad how much people care about what instances other people are on, just because someone is on a certain instance that has some people who may have bad opinions and do certain things that aren’t right doesn’t mean everyone on that instance is to blame.
Secondly you obviously don’t hate the instance that much considering how much content you re upload from there, or are you just “getting your own back” because you think people on that instance shouldn’t be able to upload their content.
Thirdly the fediverse was designed to have multiple instances with multiple communities so trying to get other instances you specifically don’t like de-federated kinda goes against the point.
And finally you dislike .ml and there devs that much that you use a different instance on the platform they made. So going back to point 2 you obviously don’t hate them that much because you use the platform they made and also re upload content from that instance.
Why can’t people just enjoy the content lemmy has to offer instead of moaning about the few people that may have unsavoury opinions or views, the world is full of people with unsavoury opinions and views do you go out and look past all the good people or do you stress and care that much about the people who arnt so good?
Methinks thou doth protest too much
wow am i blocked already?
goodboiii@lemmings.world 2 hours ago
I agree!! These tankies really are the worst with their confrontational attittude. I merely spoke of the uygurs, just like that, you know, in my daily life, I randomly speak about how china have internement camp, it’s a common subject of conversation and BOOM I got banned!!!
It hurtz my feeling.
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