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Submitted ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨fossilesque@mander.xyz⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The people pointing out the women killed by bears vs men stats a few months ago need to understand this as well lol

    Like I am fine if you want to meme or dunk on men but once you bring bad stats into it that’s when I get serious.

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    • Vanth@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The first time I saw the man or bear question, I assumed it was a setup for victim blaming. Neither choice is going to be a win for the woman.

      Based on experiences, she doesn’t trust men so she picks bear? How dare she judge all men. So illogical!

      Or she picks man? Then she should be prepared for an inevitable assault because eventually the man in the woods will be one of the bad ones and she should have known. She should have been more careful or just stayed home!

      The whole thing was never a maths question. It was a rage bait question to rile up men who hate women and to give women an unwinnable binary choice. The only “winning” answer is to decline to play this stupid game.

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      • nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The new women in mens fields trend is the same thing. Its there to agravate people by doing the thing people claim to hate just to a different group. Equality does not mean every one gets a turn at being the opresser and I can see why young people start to consider themself anti feminists if these two trends are the most interaction you’ve ever done with feminism. Which is likely since I don’t really see any other big social movements.

        Maybe its not my place to critisize the way they choose to operate but all im saying is if you told me both of those trends were Russian plots to stoke anger at feminists I’d believe you easily.

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      • KoboldCoterie@pawb.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I assume that part of the intent with these type of scenarios is to draw attention to toxic masculinity by baiting out toxic responses, which is fine and obviously it’s effective if that is the intent. However, any attempt to respectfully disagree with the premise was also treated as toxicity and that just made me not want to engage with feminists or the discourse at all, which seems counter-productive.

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      • itskindafake@lemmynsfw.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        no, it was a question to illustrate how women feel about safety around men. the rage came from male fragility. the refusal to understand a simple premise doesn’t make the “game” stupid.

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      • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        All good points I hadn’t considered! However, some people did try to turn it into a math problem which I had to object to at that point.

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      • nednobbins@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Tell me you’re old without telling me you’re old :)

        www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpmGXeAtWUw

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    • yesman@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s obtuse to treat the bear metaphor as a math problem. It’s doubly so to correct the work.

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      • pachrist@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        But would you rather be alone in the woods with a statistician or a bear?

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    • stevedice@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Men kill more women than bears even adjusted per encounter.

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      • KoboldCoterie@pawb.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m not here to argue about the bear metaphor, but this claim seems spurious at best. Even if there’s only 1 fatal bear encounter per 10 years, the number of bear encounters is so low that I don’t think this statistic can possibly be true. Do you have anything to back up your claim, or is this just a gut feeling sort of thing?

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      • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Wait why are we killing bears?

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      • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Do they? That’s hard to believe but if they did the stats right then feel free to share. How do you even measure the number of encounters?

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    • Anticorp@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Like I am fine if you want to meme or dunk on men

      That’s pretty F’ed up

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      • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Is it? Men as a class are privileged. I’m fine with punching up.

        Note this does not apply to individuals and certain subsets of men who may be relatively less privileged (gay men, black men, etc.)

        Why do you think it’s fucked up? What’s the harm?

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    • rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      yeah I think the way I always read that question was in the hundred duck sized horses vs one horse-sized duck sense. The average woman passes by, say, in public, hundreds of men per day in a city, right? I read that question (and the implication) that they’d prefer from a safety standpoint if each one of them was a bear, which is more of a video game premise than a situation anyone would survive.

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  • pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Relevant xkcd

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    • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Important to note here that you should not stand on an open field (being the highest point) or below a tree (high point that might drop wood) during a thunderstorm.

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  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No one shakes a vending machine. Its part of gen-x schooling to learn you rock the machine back just a bit and then let it settle back on its feet.

    What are they teaching kids now, if not that?

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    • Lumidaub@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I only know Vending Machine lore from Hollywood because they’re a lot rarer where I’m from so in my head “vending machine = shake” checks out.

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    • Anticorp@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      No, you punch it until it releases your goods.

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    • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Um, there were more than a few Gen X that got hurt by vending machines. We didn’t have an immunity to that.

      However, a skill we did have to exploit vending machines in the pre-digital age was to learn which alternating buttons you could press rapid-fire to get two sodas instead of one.

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    • JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      My GenX uncle broke his shoulder checking a vending machine over a Snickers bar

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      • Anticorp@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Dude needs more calcium, or possibly more Vitamin D3

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  • son_named_bort@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I mean, coyotes can’t catch roadrunners despite having access to unlimited Acme products. They’re no match for humans.

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    • Piemanding@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Sucks that the movie that was finished about the coyote fighting Acme in court for all their failing products got scrapped for tax purposes.

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      • Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Please quit with this tax write off misinformation.

        They cut their losses. We don’t know the details why, but for some reason they decided it would cost too much in money or reputation to continue with marketing and release.

        Not everything is a billionaire conspiracy. Sometimes they just realise they made a film too shit to release, or some person in a suit just wanted to spite someone.

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    • Anticorp@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Roadrunners are considerably faster than humans.

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      • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        i’m sure i can run faster than a road

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  • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “More people get bitten by New Yorkers than sharks”

    Who lives around sharks all the time?

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    • psud@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I feel I’m not in that venn diagram, living in Australia hundreds of kilometres from the sea

      Though I have visited New York, and wasn’t bitten there, and as a kid I lived near a beach and spent summer in the Pacific and haven’t been bit by any sea animals either

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  • rothaine@beehaw.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Most car accidents happen within a mile from home

    …because that’s where you’re driving most often

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    • dragonfucker@lemmy.nz ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      90% of fatal accidents occur in the northern hemisphere

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    • GiveMemes@jlai.lu ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I can beat this. My first accident was less than 50 ft from the property line of my father’s house. Somebody pulled out from the stopsign on the corner of our property without looking :( (rip mercury mariner I still miss you)

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    • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      a depressing amount of people in the US have literally just driven over children while backing out from the garage, because the cars are so big they can’t see the kids

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  • FauxPseudo@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Cow’s outnumber people on my block. But there are fences between them and us. However geese outnumber people in my yard.
    I have added goose wrestling to my resume.

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  • ryannathans@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Good thing shaking babies doesn’t kill you then, or that stat might be even higher

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  • limelight79@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Well there was that one time the vending machine decided to attack, but in general, it’s a human causing it to fall over.

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    • affiliate@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      sometimes humans cause me to fall over, but you don’t see me going around killing people

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  • Dagwood222@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Getting an error message and a tiny thumbnail.

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    • hanke@feddit.nu ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      At least it didn’t kill ya

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      • Dagwood222@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It came up this time. It’s a good post and I’m glad I waited.

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  • marcos@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If vending machines ejected their beverage as vigorously as coconut trees, people wouldn’t put them on the same category on those statistics.

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  • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Realistically it’s carnists that murder the most animals by any statistic.

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    • CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Nah that’d be other animals, if you just count large mammals then yeh humans probably beat out everything else combined but predators of rodents, small sea creatures and insects almost certainly outdo us by orders of magnitude.

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  • cliffracerflyyy@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s hard to put into words how stupid that original take about coyotes in a corral even dares to be.

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  • NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Agadoo intensifies

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  • Sam_Bass@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I bet that last commenter studied boolean math

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  • AeonFelis@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Image

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