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  • sylveon@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    “Preparation purist” is wrong. You don’t boil the tea, you steep it in hot water. For some teas, like black tea, you usually boil the water before pouring it over the tea, but other types of tea use water that isn’t as hot (e.g. around 70-80°C for green tea).

    Also, if you actually want to be an ingredient purist, tea must be made from the leaves of Camellia sinensis (or a closely related species).

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    • Skalbagge@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      You’re arguing with a meme that put clogged gutter as pure tea ingredient

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      • Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Correct. That would be tea as long as it’s camellia sinensis.

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      • problematicPanther@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        i mean, if you consider tea to be leaves soaked in water until the flavor comes out, then clogged up gutter water is tea.

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      • Censored@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        The meme is terrible and shows the creator has taste buds that probably can’t distinguish between gutter water and tea (especially after it’s been BOILED a few hours).

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    • C126@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      You hit the issue, theyre confusing tea, a specific plant, with an infusion. Herbal tea is more correctly called an herbal infusion.

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      • bitwaba@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        From en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbal_tea :

        … most dictionaries record that the word tea is also used to refer to other plants beside the tea plant and to beverages made from these other plants. In any case, the term herbal tea is very well established and much more common than tisane.

        Furthermore, in the Etymology of tea, the most ancient term for tea was 荼 (pronounced tu) which originally referred to various plants such as sow thistle, chicory, or smartweed, and was later used to exclusively refer to Camellia sinensis (true “tea”)

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    • MxRemy@lemmy.one ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      I came to say the same thing about Camellia sinensis, thinking “am I about to be more of a tea purist than is even encapsulated in this chart?” So I’m glad somebody else got there first lol

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    • dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      ISO 3103. RTFM!

      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3103

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      • sylveon@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        This standard is not meant to define the proper method for brewing tea intended for general consumption, but rather to document a tea brewing procedure where meaningful sensory comparisons can be made.

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      • gedaliyah@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Misread that as Nobel prize and …lol wtf

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      • Censored@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3103

        Oh shit. My earl grey (brewed in a ceramic (earthenware) mug) is not tea because it brewed in a mug, not a tea pot.

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    • match@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      I’m steeping in sweat and I drank a lot of camellia sinensis, am I tea?

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      • jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Unfortunately for you, yes. Please report to the nearest Tetley factory for processing.

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    • lugal@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      I’ve been to a workshop about green tea recently and you can prepare it with any water temperature. You can make it with cold water, it just takes longer. You can even place ice cubes into the can, put tea leaves on top and let them melt

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      • Censored@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Yes, sun tea is tea. I’d really like to see this meme done by someone who actually knows something about tea (and doesn’t think it involves boiling tea leaves)

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      • Crashumbc@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Ice brewed tea is a thing in the US. Take a pitcher with water and ice, throw it in the fridge overnight with some tea bags

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    • Klear@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      100% agreed.

      Though I’m firmly in the “coffee is tea” camp

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      • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Coffee is hot bean juice

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      • sylveon@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        As long as you’re not claiming to be a purist I’ll allow it.

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      • match@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        I think coffee is sometimes tea, but turkish coffee and espresso are definitely not

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    • SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      It depends. It’s perfectly acceptable to boil the tea for many Indian preparations (usually called cha or chai).

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      • sylveon@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        True, I forgot about that!

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      • Censored@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        That’s not tea, it’s chai.

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    • pseudo@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      It depends of the kind of tee your using. Once I bought the wrong type of turkish tea and next thing I now I’m boiling my tea during month so I don’t drink a slighty darker version of hot water.

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    • Censored@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Thank you. I am horrified that I had to scroll past a discussion of “is pho tea”? to get here. The so-called purist has never even made a proper cup of tea! So obviously pho is NEVER tea, since stock is extensively boiled.

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  • Norodix@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    I would try some saturn

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    • Sabata11792@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Anyone who would say no to a nice hot cup of Saturn is deranged.

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    • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      It’ll fill you with gases

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      • WereCat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        I’m for any kind of gastronomy

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  • ummthatguy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Preparation futurist, Ingredient singularity:

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    • Hupf@feddit.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      There’s a singularity in that nebula.

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    • gedaliyah@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      I have never rewatched Voyager and I think I have to soon.

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  • psilotop@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    It’s only tea if it’s made from the tea region of the plant. Anything else is sparkling suspension

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  • altima_neo@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Crude oil is texas tea, but mac and cheese requires milk not water.

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    • Sotuanduso@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      I think I’ve seen mac and cheese cups that ask for hot water.

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    • nbailey@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Do you people not put milk in your crude oil? I find it suits the subtle bitterness of Alberta tar to give it a wonderful but subtle aftertaste.

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    • trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      but mac and cheese requires milk not water.

      So does masala chai.

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  • corus_kt@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Tea preparation rebels are not constrained by shallow concepts like ‘being edible’

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  • ZMoney@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Saturn is a mixture of gases. It has a solid rocky/hydrogen core surrounded by a layer of liquid hydrogen/helium. You could argue that this intermediate liquid layer might have solid particulates, and this would agree with the definition, but overall Saturn is too complicated to be classified this way. A better extreme example would be something like Earth’s oceans.

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    • WayNKG@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      You’re response sounds like what an AI would say when you try to be sarcastic with it.

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      • ZMoney@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        An AI would give a generic definition of Saturn and a generic definition of tea and then say something irrelevant like “scientists disagree about the exact composition of Saturn’s core”

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  • devilish666@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    As miso soup enjoyer i can confirm it’s tea, because it’s relaxing & delicious

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  • Censored@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    I’m sorry, but BOILING? You do not BOIL tea leaves unless you are an absolute heathen. You may pour just-off-the-stove, formerly boiling water over black tea leaves, making the tea about 210 degrees Fahrenheit. But you do NOT put allow water with tea leaves in it to BOIL unless you are seriously deranged.

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    • Routhinator@startrek.website ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Yeah this. Biggest mistake most people that hate tea make is they dont bother learning that tea has specific temps for brewing depending on the leaves and that pouring boiling water off the stove on it will make most teas bitter.

      Many teas are best at 85-90C, just off the boil.

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  • A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Coffee is the best tea

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  • veganpizza69@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

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    • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      This is cool. Why would I want this?

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      • 31337@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        I’ve never used it, but the idea is that nutrient uptake will be faster than if someone just dressed the top of the soil with compost. The extra aerobic bacteria could also be beneficial.

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      • MagicPterodactyl@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        For liquid fertilizer, but seems silly when you can get the same results but just throwing the compost in the water and stirring it around, letting the solids sink to the bottom.

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    • Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      This is the way

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  • ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    except… with “pure” tea you don’t consume the original ingredient. (eating tea leaves or coffee grounds? eeww.)

    pho, etc you do. ergo, not tea.

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    • tiredofsametab@kbin.run ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Pho is just animal oil/juice suspended. Everything else is like milk, honey, lemon, sugar, etc. that people do consume in tea.

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      • ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        what about the rice noodles, chicken, mushrooms, etc etc.? come on.

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    • Pacattack57@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      In that instance a clogged gutter is still tea

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      • Venator@lemmy.nz ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Might be cleaner than some people’s tea pots… 😅

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      • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Only the juice collected from the underside of the clogged gutter is the tea.

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    • ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      What about stock? Take some bones, spices, and vegetables; boil them in water; and strain out all the solids. You’re left with nothing but a flavored liquid.

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      • Venator@lemmy.nz ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Now you’ve got a stew going!

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      • ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        sure, stock is tea. the base of pho is tea, but pho isn’t pho until you at least put some noodles in it. Until then, it’s just ingredients for pho.

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  • MonkderDritte@feddit.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    So because i make tea cold in summer and think coffee is a tea too, i’m a “crude oil is tea” sort of guy? 🤨

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    • OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      What, you don’t enjoy a nice iced crude oil on a hot summers day?

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      • Zehzin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Son, fetch me another can of that crude oil, I’m mighty parched

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  • johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Really feels like one should be “tea is made from tea”

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  • rsuri@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    I guess I’m an ingredient purist, preparation rebel. If your house is surrounded by tea plants, and the tea lives fall in the gutter, how is that different from brewing tea the normal way?

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    • 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Hey, that’s basically tea’s origin story.

      In Chinese legend, Emperor Shennong was drinking a bowl of just boiled water because of a decree that his subjects must boil water before drinking it.[12] Some time around 2737 BC, a few leaves were blown from a nearby tree into his water, changing the color and taste. The emperor took a sip of the brew and was pleasantly surprised by its flavor and restorative properties.

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_tea

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      • pyre@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        mighty brave for an emperor to look see that their water has changed color, and decide to try it anyway.

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    • menemen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Does your Götter contain 90°C hit water?

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    • Censored@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Water isn’t the ideal temperature. Everyone knows black tea must be made with water that’s 212-210 degreases Fahrenheit

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      • Agrivar@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        JFC, for someone so bent about the proper way to prepare tea, one would think you’d be able to spell “degrees”

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      • Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        I mean, he’s not going to have black tea anyways as it won’t have been prepared correctly.

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  • LazerFX@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Coffee isn’t a tea, as you don’t boil it. If you boil it, you burn the coffee! That’s an extraction - you can steep it, but it’s better if you just push the water through at high pressure (which will royally screw up a tea).

    Ah, pedantry in pedantry. So - now for Lemmy to tell me what I’ve gotten wrong :⁠-⁠D

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    • chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Boiling green tea is also considered burnt, as green teas recommended steeping temp is 170-175, unless I misunderstood what you mean there.

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      • LazerFX@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        No, that’s fair. Coffee at pressure is about 93 - 95°C… No idea for drip/french press/v60 etc. as I don’t use those For Aeropress, I’d wait until the kettle stopped making noise, that seemed to be a good balance without burning the oils.

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  • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    So, is a martini with the olive on top, a preparation rebel/igredient neutral or ingredient purist?

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  • BmeBenji@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    This and the cube rule are the best way to make an argument for categorizing edible items

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  • Draegur@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Beef tea was when people would boil jerky to rehydrate it. I actually do that at work sometimes! Most nights I enjoy bouillon broth on its own, but occasionally I’ll spruce it up with a little jerky, and it actually thicken up and get more tender! It also GREATLY enhances the flavor of the broth. When the dry night air of the office is bothering my throat, nothing satisfies quite like warm broth.

    (I get hot water by not putting any coffee grounds in the coffee machine. I also use this to prepare tea on occasion, and also ramen cups every once in a blue moon)

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  • not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    If you boil coffee it’ll be over extracted, bitter, and nasty.

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  • Etterra@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Coffee ≠ tea. Coffee is made from beans and tea is made from leaves. That’s why tea tastes like grass clippings.

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  • NorthWestWind@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Ever had Chinese medicine?

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  • milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    I agree with top left and bottom right. Everything else is sacrilege.

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  • don@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Asking anyway. Hey Fiora, is a hotdog in a hotdog bun considered a sandwich?

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  • evening_push579@feddit.nu ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Matcha and black tea should be swapped Imho.

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  • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Double purist, the only way to be

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