How high did the item score? xkcd.com/2178/
You know how bad it needs to be to be ignored for over 2 decades!
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jimbolauski@lemm.ee 1 year ago
chetradley@lemmy.world 1 year ago
From a reverse image search, looks like this was originally posted on Twitter by Orla Walsh, a dietician. Her education experience on her LinkedIn puts her at about 36 years old at the time the image was posted (July 2023). Since this is her mom’s fridge though, we estimate her age at 36+25=61. So, total score is 42.62.
mypasswordistaco@iusearchlinux.fyi 1 year ago
What formula are you using? And where did 25 come from? 2023-1997 = 26 and (26 / 36) x 100 = 72.2
rustyredox@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I kind of want to see a charter plot of that scoring function projected onto a 3-axis manifold with a colored heat map. How would I minMax my anticipated score given my current age or projected lifespan?
lugal@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Best before 2097? What’s the problem there?
wunami@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Y2K
user224@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
No, no, it can only be 1997, logically.
The Y2038 problem.
Nomecks@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
How many power outages has that Lasagna seen?
EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 1 year ago
Inside it’s just a box of snow with cheese.
chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
sirboozebum@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Isn’t this just survivor bias?
The unreliable fridges from 1980 have all failed already.
Aceticon@lemmy.world 1 year ago
In Engineering you have two different kinds of failures:
The first is to do with manufacturing flaws and happens in the first couple of months of use, hence how Warranties work - bad part of bad assembly so it breaks on first use or soon after.
The second kind is the device dying from decay due to use, from old age if you will.
Survivor bias, IMHO, only applies for those devices that last beyond the stage were the first kind of failure can happen as it’s kinda random (you can reduce the proportion of devices that fail, but for any one device it’s random if it will be one that fails or not)
So a 3 year old fridge dying is not from manufacturing defects but it’s dying from faster ageing, which is a flaw in the design or a choice of cheaper, lower quality components.
From what I’ve seen that’s exactly what’s been happenning: less robust designs and cheaper components with shorter lifespans, all to save on raw material costs.
nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 1 year ago
With some exceptions, like lamps or tvs, older devices lasted much more. You can inspect the older devices you find around you and check for yourself. In general, they were much more robust and used better components and were designed to last. This was due to a lot of things that were different. I will try to list some:
- in some industry areas, growth in the market was mostly due to population increase, people who never got access to some things being able to buy them, and expansion to development countries, so it was better for the companies that the devices lasted long, because they wouldn’t be able to supply a demand of replacement + new users. In other words, there was no incentive for products with small life.
- devices were generally simpler, with fewer components, therefore, with fewer points of failure. The components used were often more “brute”, instead of the delicate electronic components we have.
- a lot of the modern obsolescence comes from software and from i/o communication incompatibilities, things that weren’t even present in most devices
- market demand forces prices down, and this has led to many things, including worse quality stuff
- the life cycle of everything has diminished, as the consumerism became stronger, and people are buying new things much faster, leading to users not even caring for things to last long, because they will buy a new one soon anyway.
These are the things that came to my mind. However, it’s important to remember that there are products being made out there with the same robustness level of old appliances. Look into industrial devices, for example. They’re build to last for decades and endure much more than common devices, but the prices aren’t inviting to the average user.
dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Could be, but I think it’s been well established that things just used to be built better before globalism moved American manufacturing jobs to SE Asia.
HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I want my whole kitchen and laundry room using 1980s tech
iamericandre@lemmy.world 1 year ago
What do you mean, it says new right on the box. Can’t be that old
Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 1 year ago
NOS food
p1mrx@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
March 97 of what year?
Dozzi92@lemmy.world 1 year ago
L5264. You know, just a while after the Mayonnaise Wars of K3737.
And009@lemmynsfw.com 1 year ago
The rising red river of the 52nd Ketchup alliance was a dreadful day indeed. Only the infidels call it the Mayo war.
Siegfried@lemmy.world 1 year ago
2097, obviously, cause 1817 there were no plastics* or refrigerators** or cameras cheap enough to take pictures of trivial shit*** and 1997 would be to obvious. Nah, its definitely not 1997
Shapillon@lemmy.world 1 year ago
wat?
timelighter@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Nonzero chance that abiogenesis occurred in there
unreasonabro@lemmy.world 1 year ago
check out this custom flavour profile!
kamen@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’d honestly be impressed by a freezer that’s been running since '97.
Sagifurius@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I have a freezer from 1953, works fine.
sfgifz@lemmy.world 1 year ago
No, it’s not survivorship bias
Yes it is. It is almost guaranteed that there are appliances from 2000s still working fine while your 1950s pice is one of the last few left. Just because your reality has a different view doesn’t mean it’s the same on a global scale.
bruhduh@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Nokia 3310 would like to have a chat with you
helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That’s before they started building them to fail. Why? Because a freezer that’s been running since '97 is at least two unsold new freezers.
phx@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
There’s also a lot of other stuff that changed over time. New appliances may be more efficient, run on different (more environmentally friendly) coolant, have lead-free solder circuits, etc.
The thing is, a lot of that old stuff which was found to have health or environment issues also lasted longer. Leaded solder didn’t get burrs, for example. The components may also have been easier to repair.
But there’s also survivor bias. For every old freezer that sat in grandma’s basement for 2-3 decades many more ended up in a scrap heap.
yamanii@lemmy.world 1 year ago
How big is that freezer the she forgot a lasagna in there for this long?
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Tomb style freezer probably, the bottom is basically inaccessible so shit gets forgotten…
user224@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
My mom didn’t defrost the freezer for ages. It’s finally dead, but it took 2 hours just for the doors to unfreeze from the rest so I could open them.
See for yourself:
Image
So perhaps a similar issue.wolfshadowheart@slrpnk.net 1 year ago
Ooh, raspberry snowcone
Pringles@lemm.ee 1 year ago
It’s beautiful
ako946659663@lemm.ee 1 year ago
What’s the freezer brand? That’s a buy it for life candidate if it worked for a long time with no maintenance.
jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
Even this picture is a decade old by now.
samus12345@lemmy.world 1 year ago
MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Wow lol
jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
Do you have proof that this person is the original poster? I have seen this image so many times…
MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Bro dont break my meme heart like this
NatakuNox@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It does say new on the package
Dasnap@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Maybe it ages like wine.
Aceticon@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Uncorked?
aeronmelon@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Does that brand even exist anymore?
SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
One would hope not
st3ph3n@midwest.social 1 year ago
Unlikely: irishtimes.com/…/swissco-to-close-cork-plant-with… (2008)
Daqu@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Nice little hiss
Lepsea@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Let’s get this out onto a tray, Nice!
chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
What impresses me most is in the era of disposable appliances that her refrigerator has been working at least since 1997. This refrigerator deserves to go to the Valhalla of refrigerators
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
The Einherjar shall use it as a beer cooler!
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Sooo, How was it?
EnderMB@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Send it to ashens
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 year ago
My first thought as well, lol.
Though sending a frozen item international mail and hoping it stays frozen the entire time is probably expensive.
Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 1 year ago
My girlfriend’s family cabin has a cild storage in the basement. We found some canned stew that had expired in 1982. A friend of mine actually ate it and he didn’t get sick!
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 year ago
can food can last far longer than the expiration date, as long as it still has seal integrity, and not bulging.
Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yeah I’d argue canning is one of the greatest technological marvels of the 20th century. I never check the expiration date of the cans in my kitchen
Dozzi92@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yeah, the expiry is beaurocracy in action, but okay beiroacracy, I’m fine with putting the dates. But canned goods are eternal if stored properly, and doing a quick inspection for what you mentioned is all you need when you’re scouring the wasteland for Vienna sausages in the far off time of the year 2025.
phx@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
My first question about the lasagna was “how did it taste?”
Maultasche@feddit.de 1 year ago
After all that time, it truly is a kitchen classic.
son_named_bort@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Sure it’s not 1997 now, but who knows what will happen in the future?
Custoslibera@lemmy.world 1 year ago
If Futurama has taught me anything it’s that time will loop back around.
Better hold onto it until it’s in date again.
fung@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Probably real beef!
KingJalopy@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I was thinking the same thing. It’s probably higher quality ingredients than today’s shit. I grew up in the 80s and I distinctly remember for tasting better back then. Even shitty TV dinners.
psud@lemmy.world 1 year ago
When was the mad cow prion problem in UK beef?
BugleFingers@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I’d love to see a product comparison of the same one sold today (if they do and it exists)
Neil@lemmy.ml 1 year ago
That’s probably the best microwave dinner left on the planet if it doesn’t have freezer burn.
RandomStickman@kbin.social 1 year ago
If it went in the freezer good, it's good
clearedtoland@lemmy.world 1 year ago
She’ll finally be in the mood for it, and learn that you shouldn’t throw things away cause you never know when you’ll need it. /s
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 year ago
My father was an academic and the thing academics do when they visit each other’s houses is to bring a bottle of something. So they had a cellar room full of booze. It was awesome when I was in high school in the mid-90s. My parents didn’t drink beer though, so there was no beer in the house except for a six-pack of Michelob at the back of the room that had pull tabs on it. They stopped making pull tabs in 1980. So it was at least 14-year-old beer. It was one of the few things I didn’t think about and/or decide to steal.
mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Guys it’s just a “best by” date! Those things last forever!
CaptainProton@lemmy.world 1 year ago
SteveMRE1987 wants it
key@lemmy.keychat.org 1 year ago
It’s a “best before” date not an expiration date, it might still be good!
scottywh@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Probably still as good as it ever was… Lol
smigao@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Same as it ever was
brlemworld@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Maybe they meant it was disgusting. Like they bought a couple, ate one, and decided not to eat the other, and didn’t get around to tossing it.
eerongal@ttrpg.network 1 year ago
It’s probably still perfectly safe to eat. It likely just tastes like hot garbage. Frozen food doesn’t technically expire, it just slowly gets more and more freezer burnt that degrades the quality and taste. It remains perfectly safe to eat indefinitely, however.