There’s somewhere between 10 and 20 spices in the food pictured, why do you think its orange?
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funkless@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
tempest@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I mean the beans mostly get their color from the molasses and sugar but lots call for Worcestershire sauce which is going to have a bunch of stuff.
nightlily@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
Baked beans outside North America don’t have molasses, and generally only a small amount of sugar (if any). The colour in British baked beans is from tomatoes.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Bean juice?
Grostleton@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
“spices”, in this context, is Obese American for " salt, butter, and bacon grease"
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
my dude have you ever gotten a sandwich in Ljubljana? It’s bread, salt, butter, and bacon grease. that’s it. And they’re fucking amazing. I don’t think europe has any room to criticize.
bedwyr@piefed.ca 2 weeks ago
Ha ha, that is the holy trinity.
But spices are used to disguise low quality ingredients just like the aforementioned salt, fat, and sugar. Namely garlic and onion powders, which are added for that purpose to all manner of processed foods that they aren’t elsewhere. IE italians are aghast at pizza sauce having garlic in it.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
onions and tomato
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Use sparingly:
Salt Pepper BBQ rub seasoning from ??? Onion powder Garlic salt Misc. dried Italian herbs you’ve owned for years Anything else left in your pantry
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
BBQ rub seasoning from ???
gets color primarily from paprika. almost always
AMoralNihilist@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Everyone always forgets that Chicken Tikka Masala is a British dish and one of the most popular meals in the country
Cherries@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The British claiming tikka masala is like NYC claiming pizza.
AMoralNihilist@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
It’s quite well established that it’s a British dish. Curry in general isn’t, but Tikka masala is. It’s like Canada claiming Pizza Hawaii.
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Walking down a high street in the UK. I smell loads of spices from even the shit takeaways.
adarza@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
curry doesn’t count.
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Why not? If that is the case then American cuisine is limited to corn syrup and growth hormones.
gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Then burgers don’t count for Americans either then. They’re a German invention
gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
So you’re saying the American’s Apple Pie (German) and Bagels (some debate, but Eastern European) count but Curry doesn’t?
FluidBeef@quokk.au 2 weeks ago
Funny how much the yanks bring this up to distract from their own food culture.
rmuk@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Nonsense. You can’t bite into an American meal without immediately tasting a wonderful selection of flavours, like:
- salt
- corn-derived sweetener
Lanske@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Ive had many great meals in the UK and less so in the USA
starik@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
ITT people believing the self-deprecating jokes white cultures have been telling about themselves are actually 100% true
Nalivai@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s not that though. It’s Americans doing the same overused joke about UK, completely different country. You can’t self-deprecate another culture.
starik@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
White Americans say the same thing about themselves - that they don’t use spice. Salt is spicy, we love mayonnaise, etc.
abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
The rest of the world thinks that Britain doesn’t use spices, what we don’t know is that for some reason, we seem to use them in our confectionery.
We really like ginger.
myyass@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I like Gingers as well.
gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Ginger is tasty
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The British eat so much Indian food it’s crazy. There’s a Nando’s on damn near every corner in London.
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s just like how in America there is a Mexican restaurant in every small shitty town.
greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
But there’s also Mexican food in the nice towns too
gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
i think in germany it would be turkish food?
gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
I’m assuming those are meant to be unrelated statements?
Cause Nandos is Portuguese-African fusion food
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
:-p My mistake.
But it’s generally spicier than beans on toast, is my point
ratel@crazypeople.online 2 weeks ago
Nando’s is South African
gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
South African and Portuguese fusion food.
The history is that South Africa had a lot of Portuguese immigrants during the Portuguese civil war, and that then made a whole new cuisine that’s a fusion of South Africa and Portugal.
And the owner was from that region, and bright that cuisine over to England, big hit, made a chain of it
FishFace@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
The tragedy is that many of the spices most jealously traded for became so integral to British and international cuisine that memesters don’t even realise that they were ever unusual or expensive. I guarantee you that those baked beans have a bunch of black pepper in them and guess what… pepper don’t grow in Britain! It’s in more or less every single kitchen thanks to a global spice trade that is now forgotten. Ginger is a main flavour in many British recipes and also doesn’t grow in Britain.
But Britain was in fact not that big a player in the spice trade, being beaten by the Dutch, who got there first and had better financial backing. The British East India Company tried to make its way by raiding ships of the Dutch East India Company but after a bunch of wars eventually had to settle for less exciting endeavours - trade in cotton being a staple.
The Dutch are themselves not renowned for their food either, though it is my firm belief that every country has great food if you’re willing to look past your prejudices, and stamppot is great.
mobyduck648@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I just wish long pepper was more widely known, I can get it easily from Indian shops in the UK but it’s not so widely known or available. It’s among my favourite spices, think black pepper but way more aromatic and ‘flowery’. It was known to the Romans but fell out of favour many centuries ago in Europe.
FishFace@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
I bought some to make some old recipes (from Tasting History, which I imagine is a not-insignificant driver of online types having long pepper..?) but had to go online. The local place I go to for spices also didn’t have lovage or savoury - tsk!
rbos@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
There’s some fantastic dutch food!
FishFace@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
👀
lime@feddit.nu 2 weeks ago
visited a greggs for the first time this summer, i was genuinely shocked at what they served. it’s like they went out of their way to not put any flavor in. and it was packed.
fonix232@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
Yeah because a Stilton and cheese bake is totally favoueless, right?
GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Not enough salt and corn syrup for the discerning American tongue
remon@ani.social 2 weeks ago
It certainly won’t earn you any favours with me!
lime@feddit.nu 2 weeks ago
apparently.
Brimstone@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
I read before ww2 rations got Brits used to bland flavourless food and they gave the same to their children so now it’s just what they do there
lime@feddit.nu 2 weeks ago
but there are also flavourful things there! i visited edinburgh and their black pudding and haggis were very pleasantly spiced. i just don’t get why they would charge almost €4 for a completely un-toasted bread roll and a tiny sausage.
WanderWisley@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Britain stole all those historical artifacts and culture but couldn’t steal a recipe.
arc99@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
People think Britain doesn’t use spices. Read Mrs Beeton’s cook book from the 1800s. It’s ALL the spices.
heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Sure, privately and those who have time. But the public houses aren’t going to stock a full cabinet of spice, replacing a spice cabinet is spendy.
arc99@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The evidence is out there to see. Perceptions may be distorted by the hardships the UK suffered of rationing during WW2 and after. But the reality is that herbs and spices were always important and still are.
Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
insomniac199@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah that’s definitely not matcha.
Bluewing@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Dammit Hony, now I need to order yet another good Darjeeling Fall leaf tea…
Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Haha, with such a reply I might have to get one myself to try. I love tea.
Egonallanon@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
We only got them to stop the Dutch getting them.
gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
it was never about spices i think. they just wanted to sail around the world and do stupid shit
Bluewing@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No, no it was all about subagitation and money. You know, the thing us crackers do best.
FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No, no it was all about subagitation and money. You know, the thing us crackers do best.
Subagitation? The fuck does unlawful intercourse have to do with this? (I had to look this goofy word up in a dictionary because it’s so unusual)
CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
France too! French cooking is WILDLY overrated, they coast by on their desserts and pastries and those are just good cause butter
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The best Italian restaurant I ever ate at was in Paris, and I’ve been all over Italy.
It was a near thing. But the French do not fuck around with their cooking.
those are just good cause butter
Paula Dean’s food is good because of butter.
Julia Child’s food is good because of experience.
antianarchist@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
I wouldn’t even mind such a dinner. A clear red flag is people who boil meat or don’t use any oil anywhere.
NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Curry beans would like a word
Tattorack@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Navy beans and tomatoes are both native to the Americas, does that count?
RaoulDuke25@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Isn’t it because they considered spices for peasants?
squirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
While I know that it’s mostly a joke, it is worth mentioning that those valuable spices were exclusively used by the rich and wealthy. Ordinary people and their food did not benefit from the spice trade at all. If you dig a little bit into culinary history and find out what the aristocrats did with (for example) extremely rare and precious nutmeg the British Empire fought wars over, you want to dig up their bones, revive them, just so that you can kill them again.
JustPlainDave@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I mean, that’s true, but hasn’t been the case for at least a century, so why do they still eat like the aristocrats are hoarding all the spices?
Knitwear@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
We don’t. It’s a bit.
The part people forget is that we didn’t just take the spices, we took the whole cuisine and the people who could cook it.
The general British public has been eating a multicultural diet for a very, very long time. So when you see bangers and mash, rather than wonder why it isn’t spiced, consider that we’re just being retro and tomorrow we’ll have Indian and the next day Chinese and…
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“Culture”
West_of_West@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
I always wonder whether it’s a lingering effect of rationing,which didn’t end until the ‘50s.
Klostein@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
The nutmeg genocide man
MrShankles@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
Jesus fucking christ, there’s never a shortage of harrowing greed
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
i’m going back to pretending they just boofed it my version of history is happier
fonix232@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
You're somewhat correct but also not.
The spice scarcity and making do without is a result of two world wars ravaging a somewhat isolated island nation. See e.g. the Irish potato famine. Some were misfortunate enough to have no food at all - and many had to live with bland, rationed food items.
Those decades were formative and a lot of that stuck around.
And to be perfectly honest... I kinda like it. I like spiced (spicy in the flavourful, not the hot sense) food too, but there's some beauty in putting together a dish of meat and potatoes where you let the flavour of the meat and potatoes come through. In some sense it's actually similar to Japanese cuisine, specifically sushi, where the focus is on the fish itself, with minor added flavours (salt from soy sauce, heat from wasabi).
squirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
I think the two things we mentioned are not only not excluding each other, but rather cumulative: Spices were not common before the wars and the wars further increased their scarcity for most people, essentially preventing them from becoming part of the popular cuisine in a time period when other European nations became increasingly accustomed to using them.
bedwyr@piefed.ca 2 weeks ago
The limies weren’t even that big into the spice trade, it was the dutch. You mention nutmeg, nutmeg and cloves came from a certain string of small indonesian islands only. There were some english traders there, when the dutch were trying to monopolize the trade.
The dutch sent a delegation, that angered the natives that killed them. The dutch came back and exterminated the natives. Killed every single one of them, and the english and other traders there.
tlekiteki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
wow i dont have time to research what they did. tell me what did they do?
CannonFodder@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They ate it, mostly as a status symbol. They’d carry it around with a small silver grinder to add it to their food. I’m not sure what was so bad about that, other than adding something worth a laborer’s salary for a year on your food. Also, it contains myristicin which if one consumes enough in one sitting can sort of give a high - a really bad one with hallucinations that go in for 48h - don’t try it, it can make you very sick.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
i’m not looking it up i’m just going to pretend i know
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HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
I remember reading that in today’s money sugar used to be over £100/kg. Spices probably more. No shit regular people didn’t use them much!
mattyroses@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Haiti basically brought France more money than all of Canada, because it produced sugar.