This is what happens when their only competitor is a mindless Microslop.
Nintendo carved out their niche and Sony has no chance against them in that market after abandoning AAA and AA single player games in favor of trash service games.
End of an era?
Submitted 1 month ago by VetOfTheSeas@discuss.online to games@lemmy.world
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rafoix@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 month ago
as long as people buy the mainline games like pokemon, and some other well know IP mario and friends,etc. nintendo isnt going to lose customers, eventhough some of them have become slop over the years.
rafoix@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Nintendo makes good AA and AAA games just like they did decades ago.
They don’t believe in discounts or quality analog sticks but their game design is still solid.
GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Bet the Sony fanboys wish they didn’t make so much fun of the Xbox one’s digital plans now. Xbox’s digital plan had:
- digital reselling
- digital game lending
- retail pricing competition
PlayStation buyers will definitely not get the first 2, and Sony will likely prevent the third.
“Arrogant sony” is well and truly back.
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Yeah. The Xbox One’s initial digital library plans were actually pretty compelling. The ability to lend and sell licenses was actually pretty neat, but they had to cancel it with the backlash to the announcement that you’d have a license code tied to the disc.
Honestly, if Xbox had ditched physical entirely that generation instead of causing the confusion around requiring the digital license despite having a disc I think it would have been better-received. That or going to a 2-tiered system where you had to have the disc in the machine to play games that hadn’t initially been a digital download.
Oh, and ditching the Kinnect bullshit.
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 1 month ago
I guess we’re never gonna get to see that super futuristic PS9 that was envisioned back in that old PS2 commercial.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
It’ll just be a terminal that connects to Sony’s servers.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
n1ck_n4m3@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Playstation customer since my first job at McDonalds let me buy the original first model PSX, all the way through the PS5 — fuuuuuuuuck you Sony. I’ve got a PC and you can eat 10 tons of my shit right now with this and your cancellation of PC support. We’ll see who wins.
SunshineJogger@feddit.org 1 month ago
They can do all this because people keep giving them money.
Too many people make it about brand identity than simply playing games.
ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Nintendo winning this console generation with the Switch 2 was not on my bingo card.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 month ago
bless@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
Nintendo being the best option for a consumer (from a legal perspective) was not on my bingo card
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 1 month ago
Why bother with consoles anymore? PCs are so much better
GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Why not? They kicked everyone’s arse with the Switch 1.
VitoRobles@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Nintendo shut down the e-shop for the 3DS. All the digital games you owned? Gone.
They’re part of the problem.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 1 month ago
The 3DS is very easy to jailbreak. Highly recommend it. Just in case anyone needs to hear this.
Cintari@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Incorrect, the 3DS eshop is still online. Digital games can still be re-downloaded, you just can’t buy new ones. The same is true for Wii, DSi, and Wii U.
GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The digital games you own are still playable.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
They need to up their exclusive game…game. Other than DK Banaza, their output has been disappointing. I only got a Switch 2 now because it’s only going to get more expensive and I’m hoping for quality exclusives in the next 6 or so years that they’ll be supporting it.
ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 1 month ago
You do realize the Switch 2 already has more exclusives than the PS5, right?
TwinTitans@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Bye PlayStation. It’s been a good run, but you’re dead to me now.
adarza@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
sony probably figures they can get away with pulling all this shit since what else ya gonna do? buy a new gaming pc? at literally double or more what they cost last summer?
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Since playing online is free and games can be gotten for free as well, that’s exactly what I’ll do at a higher upfront cost. Or, if prices remain outrageous forever, I’ll stick to old games until the hardware stops working, then stop playing games altogether.
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Microsoft is killing their software while Sony kills the hardware and marketplace. This looks like the end of the console generation with the only device left being a handheld by Nintendo.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Nintendo is also now the only one left I’ll consider buying their next console depending on how enshittifed it is. They’re the only one that differentiates itself from just playing on PC.
flandish@lemmy.world 1 month ago
it’s like they want us to own …. nothing. hrm.
GMac@feddit.org 1 month ago
This is Sony though, they care so much about playstation customers they even went to the effort of updating the ps3 firmware in March this year to improve things for their customers.
I mean it would be crazy to suggest they would do that for a console they discontinued a decade ago just to try and fuck with people who have the temerity to run custom firmware on hardware they bought and paid for 20 years ago…
Sony business logic is fucked.
DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
The updates were for the BluRay licenses they do it on a schedule. You can easily still play online even with pirated games
SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 1 month ago
Sony doesn’t care about what you do on your PS3. You can literally play online and earn trophies with pirated games without getting banned.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Do they still make money of it or was the security hole easy enough to fix, that they paid a few engineer hours from pocket money, just for the fuck you?
GMac@feddit.org 1 month ago
Per the patch notes: www.playstation.com/en-gb/…/system-software/
“By updating, you can enjoy additional features, improved usability, and enhanced security.
Please note, to play Blu-ray discs, your PS3 system needs a renewed Blu-ray player encryption key. Please update your PS3 system software to the latest version to renew the Blu-ray player encryption key.”
I havent actually tried to watch a bluray on custom firmware since, but I’m a weirdo who uses it for playing games so that doesnt matter to me.
I dont see any money being made on the ps3
grinning_serpent@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Not really end of an era, you’re just witnessing a monopoly forming since Xbox is pretty much dead in the water. I guess it’s technically a duopoly since Nintendo is fine, but Nintendo kinda does its own thing without regard to what others do. Basically, with Xbox out of the picture, Sony is free to do whatever it wants.
RagingRobot@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Maybe sega will make a come back lol
grinning_serpent@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Just in time for the Code Veronica remake. Maybe it’ll be a launch title.
Phantaloons@piefed.zip 1 month ago
They’re betting on consumers being too impulsive and stupid to care, and… they’re probably right.
LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
It works until it doesn’t. Companies can push prices for a little while, maybe a whole generation, but one day people decide it’s not worth it and it all crashes down suddenly.
Happens over and over again, could be the new era of PC gaming that Valve is pushing will tip them over, could be a new generation of Nintendo games. Could be a new company from China.
Big players do this every time, then the CEO says “nobody could have predicted that the 6th price hike was the end of the brand!”
bridgeburner@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Nah, people are stupid generally speaking. I mean, just look at Apple, they are releasing basically the same phone every year with an increasing price tag and the sheeple keep mindlessly buying it.
nuko147@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The gonna release PS6 without any physical media option, don’t they? Their PS5 digital edition was only a market test.
GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It was always going to be digital only on account of 85%+ of all game sales being digital.
The digital only PS5 wasn’t a market test though, it was purely a marketing tactic - they barely made 5% of PS5 production digital only ones, but it allowed them to market the PS5 as “from $399”, when in reality it was $499.
nuko147@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Its 78% actually, up from 76% last year, but that is sales and not users. I would hardly believe that are users that bought all of their games digitally, even the good collection ones.
My little brother, who started with PS3 as a kid and had/has PS4, PS5 and almost all of his games are in discs, won’t be happy about it.
ForgottenUsername@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I was only saying the other day, after having all playstations since a PSOne, that I reckon the wind I blowing against the consumer and that the PS5 (disc version) would be my last playstation console. Unfortunately it turns out I was right, it’s a sad day for gamers. 😮💨
mrsilkworm@piefed.social 1 month ago
Even with the high prices you can still build a decent AM4 based PC and play titles bought on GOG which is DRM free. If you install Linux you all get one of the best is for free. If you want to go further you can emulate the heck of old consoles and old PC games and have tons of fun. You could also sail the high seas for content that has DRM and/or is very expensive. Don’t forget. If you don’t own what you buy the piracy is ethical and justified. After akk, piracy is mostly a service problem and when you enshitify a service you end up FAFO.
ryper@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
They also just announced that the PS3 and Vita Playstation Store will be shutting down, starting next month in certain regions and everywhere by July 2027. At some point in the future it will be impossible to buy games for your old PS6 because it doesn’t support discs and the Playstation Store dropped support.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Honestly, once cheap physical media wasn’t able to keep up with game sizes this became inevitable. Blurays can store 100GB, which isn’t enough for the bigger games of today, and they will only get bigger. It was still nice to have the disc as a sellable, tradeable license for the game as long as the servers were up, though.
Smaile@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Just the second great video game crash, not quite a secret landfill of ET but this is just as bad imo
Graphiar@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Eh. I’m not surprised to see this. But I am happy I built my PC when I did.
Quite frankly I do not feel bad about pirating everything and storing it to my hard drive. If we don’t own it, it’s not stealing.
Jaeger86@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Xbox and Nintendo are basically doing the same thing
zaphod@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
And PC games have been digital for ages it feels. Still a loss, I usually wait half a year to two years before buying new games and can just pick up whatever I want for 20€ on disc without having to wait for the next PS Store sale, often even the version that includes all the DLCs and the remaster of the previous game.
garretble@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Steam kinda killed physical PC games 20 years ago.
And the Steam zealots will come and say, “Yeah, but but you can still buy games on other storefronts! So it’s not like this Sony thing at all!” OK, sure.
But Steam still helped kill physical games on PC.
LemmyTellYou@lemmy.cafe 1 month ago
This
Whilst I don’t agree with it, it’s hardly something new.
GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 1 month ago
How are Microsoft doing it?
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Depends on how long Nintendo plans to keep doing game key cards. They suck, but they’re better than having no way to transfer a game license at all. I suspect that the “Switch 3” won’t have any physical media at all, though.
master94ga@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Not really, as today Microsoft or Nintendo are not forcing anyone to drop disc in physical games, is up to the deloveper tondo as they wish.
AlexNorris@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Console really is hitting checklist of media subscription like apple
DupaCycki@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Personally I bought a PS5 only to collect physical games and be able to play them. I’m not paying premium PS prices for temporary, digital access.
I think it’s safe to say this means PS6 will either be digital only, or heavily focused on digital. Which for me is a non-negotiable deal breaker.
PlayStation is pulling off the best marketing campaign Xbox could ever dream of.
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I mean, thats a pretty low bar. Xbox cant market for shit anymore.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
PS6 will 100% be digital only. It’s likely directly related, as it will probably release sometime in 2028.
This isn’t gonna help XBOX any, they’re even worse.
GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Sony only announced this now because of the upcoming Xbox layoff announcement. Typical “get all of your bad news out in front of the competitors worse news so yours is only in the news cycle for a few days” play.
Xbox’s “physical as digital” plans for the Xbox One were amazing. Bet the people who cried about it are now feeling pretty stupid.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Because stopping disc production has worked so well for Microsoft…
Here’s the bit both are forgetting:
The hardware is still sold at retail.
So you go into a store, you see a console for sale but no games. Or, worse, a shelf of old games on the “Discontinued” rack (the Xbox section in most Targets and Walmarts now.) Do you feel inclined to buy that hardware?
How is that working out for Microsoft?
forbes.com/…/xbox-sales-are-its-lowest-ever-this-…
Valve can get away with it with the Steam products because they are sold in the same online store that sells the games.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
The games will still be sold at retailers as a code in a box. I don’t see the point, but apparently that’s the plan.
Valve can also get away with it because PCs are an open platform and you have options to have control over your digital games, whether legal or not. So the lack of physical media doesn’t really matter there.
psx_crab@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Also steam is a storefront, if you want the hardware you go to PC store.
Saying that made me realised that they might actually want to make sure they (the Sony store) are the only one to be able to sell this, no more game store in the future.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
They’re actually planning for games to be sold at retail as a code in a box, so they still want game displays at retail, but also want to have complete control over the pricing of them. A “have their cake and eat it, too” kind of thing.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Consoles were always a walled garden from the very start, very purposefully so, and those things tend to squeeze customers once captured with higher prices and, sooner or later, fully enshittify.
So when consoles originally appeared I just kept gaming on the PC because it was an open platform and the only console I ever had was a WII (the original one) because their controller was at the time innovative, and honestly it wasn’t really worth it.
Then, specifically for the PlayStation there’s Sony, who have a long track record of anti-consumer actions that started when their leadership stopped coming from the Engineering Division and started coming from their Media Division (after they bought a Movie studio in the US), from their electronics becoming locked down and restrictive for users (they’re the ones who came up with Blu-Ray, which was way more locked down to block copying than DVDs were) to the infamous shipping of music CDs with rootkits (the “Sony Rootkit” scandal)
So this increasing enshittification of the PlayStation isn’t at all surprising and suspect it will get even worse than this. Ultimately I think the PlayStation platform will simply die.
auzy1@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Sony have always been a sh** company though, even as far back as their proprietary mini disc format.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Media rights expiring surely isn’t on them.
lechekaflan@lemmy.world 1 month ago
This only reinforces the reasons why I bought a PC for gaming instead of a console.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 month ago
No, this is just playstation continuing to hate their customer base.
They’ve always hated their customers. Between Sony, and Nintendo, I dont know who hates their customers the most… but they both certainly try.
and it doesnt matter, because they both have enough fanboys that strip off their clothes and gleefully dance naked and joyous in the rain of shit both companies sputter out of their assholes and down onto their customers.
umbraroze@slrpnk.net 1 month ago
I’m an Xbox fangirl (a resentingly disappointed one, of course), and the recent industry shenanigans made me get apprehensive about whatever is going to come out next from Microsoft’s direction. They could turn the direction around. Not sure if they can.
I liked Nintendo Switch, but Switch 2 was pretty much “yeah, I’ll probably get a Steam Deck at some point, sorry”.
This PlayStation stuff basically switched my opinion of them from “Nnno” to “Oh hell no”.
I will be back to PC gaming! And will be building a new PC once the industry quits being stupid for a moment. Until then, my 2020 laptop will have to do.
PacketPilgrim@thelemmy.club 1 month ago
There is no point to consoles anymore. It used to be that consoles were easy to use and cheaper while PCs were more expensive and complex. That is no longer the case. Computers are stupid easy now and consoles have become to expensive.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Can anyone come up with a single example of an industry that’s not getting simultaneously worse (and/or smaller), and more expensive?
CptOblivius@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Costco hotdogs. That’s about it. Maybe arizona ice tea?
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
I dunno if my tastes just evolved, but I swear Arizona isn’t as good as it used to be
Joelk111@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Costco in general, actually. When was the last time they increased the membership cost?
stefenauris@pawb.social 1 month ago
Actually open source software just keeps getting better and better. I’m amazed at how much stuff I can run on my own computers for free!
However with AI flooding open source projects with security vulnerabilities and things, this is subject to change (but hopefully not)
Joelk111@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I feel like I got into self hosting at the exact correct time. Immich is amazing, Filebrowser Quantum is incredible, Ghost (Patreon alternative) has been awesome, and there’s so much more. It’s so good.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
I guess I don’t consider OSS to be an “industry” in the same way other, mainly capitalist, endeavors are. It’s more akin to a co-op
SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
E-scooters. They’ve been pretty rapidly getting both cheaper and more capable (longer range, higher speeds). Sadly, most of the innovation seems to come from Chinese companies.
Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’d say this could apply to a lot of new cars too. But yeah, it feels pretty unusual to see an industry shit the bed like this.