I’m gonna miss them as they were the only way of playing paid games via Playstation 4 since you couldn’t buy digital games via PS Store if you were living in an unavailable country.
End of an era?
Submitted 1 month ago by VetOfTheSeas@discuss.online to games@lemmy.world
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sorelight@lemmus.org 1 month ago
einlander@lemmy.world 1 month ago
They better be switching to sd cards or something.
ICastFist@programming.dev 1 month ago
They’ll do it if they can manage to make it impossible to use any adapter. PSVita used those tiny memory sticks because fuck you for wanting standardized storage solutions
Keilik@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I don’t know if it’s relevant to you but you can buy vita to micro SD adapters now and I did purely out of spite
einlander@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I imagine they would put TPM chips in them.
BandDad@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
The loss of physical media in addition to the rest of their terrible decisions solidified that I’m done with Sony. Still on the PS4, but I see no need to give them any future support.
It really sucks that between this and the death of personal computing at the hands of the AI bubble, my main hobby is becoming unaffordable.
nicpicname@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
So, nothing to look forward to. This is why you’re so behind in sales.
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
I don’t understand why anyone cares.
I can’t think of a single game that didn’t require an install and then updates before playing anyways.
Vipsu@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Games on GOG come with offline installer that can be used to install the most reacent version.
But you’re right, many games do require day 1 patches or even game data to be dowloaded but that makes these worse / lower in quality for many.
GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 1 month ago
That’s gog, not consoles.
Aneorthisio@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
That is only the case because your console is connected to the internet. For example, I can dust off my old PS3 today and play the version 1.0 release of GTA V after installing it from the disc because the console is offline, meaning there won’t be any prompt asking me to update the game to the latest version, and it simply works.
You might argue that this is a bad example and that GTA V runs better on modern hardware, so let us consider Bloodborne on the PS4 instead, a title you will not find anywhere else and for which current emulation remains, at best, sketchy. I can insert that disc into my PS4 unplugged from the internet and play it immediately without any mandatory update.
Killing physical support means the end of this possibility for further releases, not that Sony has many exclusives these days, but for the handful of PS6 games that won’t make it to PC.
ForgottenUsername@lemmy.world 1 month ago
And there were ps5 discs that did this. I played Astrobot for a month with no downloads or updates.!
I agree it wasn’t the norm, but it was possible.
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Were there any ps5 games that could play from the disc offline anymore?
I guess that was my point: that ps5 players already were used to having to deal with online content.
Zink@programming.dev 1 month ago
It won’t really affect me, but I understand the appeal of a physical artifact servicing as time game’s license for those who like to lend, sell, trade, library, etc.
And those same benefits are why the corporations can’t wait to do away with it. It’s been quite a while since Microsoft tried the same thing and people freaked out enough that they reversed course.
GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It’s worth pointing out that Microsoft didn’t try the same thing. Microsoft tried to move to “physical as digital”, where they retained the benefits of physical copies such as resale and loaning.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Wow you’re young
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Or old enough to not care that much. What am I going to do with more plastic?
BUT, I should have been more clear that I was talking only about ps5 and ps5 owners. I would never own one. Their online account is annoying and I have never forgiven them for the rootkit.
I was surprised to find out that there are games that will play without the internet. Although every ps5 MUST be connected to the internet first to link the disc drive to the device.
I used Does It Play to look at the games, and a lot of them will not work without updates. I assumed all at this point, which is why I said what I said.
c64z86@piefed.world 1 month ago
Between this and most of the games coming out these days, apart from indies, being complete crap, I think the PS5 will be my last console.
MasterOfProton@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Bad notice…. I like phisical disc, not is good for ever this system, and one question: you pay the game, but not is you own, not?
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
oyzmo@lemmy.world 1 month ago
People don’t care. Most just want to feed on SoMe. A bunch even voted Trump as President - impressed that humas has survived this long
Joelk111@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’m pretty sure Trump said he was going to make things cheaper and we did not have any reason to not believe him
The largest /s you’ve ever seen.
LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The removal of physical games isn’t that big of a deal to me as someone who mostly plays on PC, and the only physical PC games I’ve bought in the last decade and a half were touhou games I imported off Yahoo auctions.
Honesty I wonder why that actually became so normalized on PC while it didn’t on consoles. I’m sure Steam has a big role in it.
007ace@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
I think the main reason for this on PC has been the fact that there’s been piracy/licensing for so long. We used to have cd keys to prove you were using the legit disc. You bought a license, and there were cdchecks. Once you were able to prove ownership with a key instead of a disc, and create your own offline installers too? All the reasons to fight against it were gone. On consoles you can’t make offline backups. You can’t play without constant online license checks. And once the license date rolls over you can’t play anyway.
My gog backup, I can install offline tomorrow never touch the Internet and be fine.
Oneiros@eviltoast.org 1 month ago
Yeah I’m completely done with Sony. They also killed Destiny as a franchise and are already getting ready to launch a PS6 despite them basically producing no games during the pandemic because most people didn’t own a ps5 due to shortages. Feels like we got half a life cycle for this console, then they release the pro for like twice the price, and now they expect you to get ready to upgrade. And of course they are stopping disc production while simultaneously proving they can and will just stop letting you use your digital purchases. I’m sticking to PC and switch 2 for the foreseeable future. I honestly may never buy another console.
Lulzagna@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I don’t care to hear about the tribulations of peasants
GolfFoxtrotLima@ani.social 1 month ago
Yet another common PlayStation L
Erna_muse@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Really what needs to happen is a few companies consolidate regional dev talent and become software companies.
If I was sony I’d bet on steamos. Nintendo would be in the best position if their games weren’t locked to their systems. Because their wheel house is low spec games that could run on anything.
Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I seriously don’t understand the “disk” thing. I could see how you want your game to be on a physical media so you don’t have to download it when you want to play, but games are so big you couldn’t do it for decades already, and having a disk is barely saves you any time anyway. Meanwhile it’s a waste of materials, it get scratched all the time, and if you lose it it’s gone.
thatGuyWithGlasses@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I think its because you can borrow a game from a friend. That was always the reasoning behind higher pricing of console titles. I wonder if borrowing a game between friends or buying second hand will be still a thing now.
tmyakal@infosec.pub 1 month ago
No, it won’t be. That’s literally the point. Publishers have viewed the second-hand market as craven scalpers for decades. Companies like GameStop make an absolute killing selling the same used disc 3 or 4 times at $65/ea than selling new for $70 once.
Every few years there’s a new and more aggressive push to limit what people can do or get with a trade-in. It’s why pre-order “bonuses” have gotten to be such a big deal, why live-service games got such a huge push, and now why Sony is eliminating physical media. They think cutting the resellers out means they’ll get more customers, not that less people will play their games.
Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Can you? With an age of always online shit, can you really give a friend your disk, and they will be able to play, or will it tell you that the game is already registered to an account?
If it’s still not the case for some games, it’s not the lack of disks that finishes it.
Chill_Dan@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The benefit isn’t the physical disk, it’s the ownership of the game. They can and do take away digital purchases, they cannot take away your disk.
Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 month ago
But that’s the point, your game is not on your disk! Your game is downloaded after you insert your disk. You can’t do it without an account. When they decide to take away your digital renting agreement, or when they decide to not support your game anymore, your disk becomes a piece of plastic that you can’t do shit about. You don’t own a game, you own a piece of plastic that has some private downloader on it.
Y’all talking like we’re in 1998 and the game can fit on a disk leaving room for developer’s commentary.
Auth@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Oh no this is gonna drive the uncs wild. We’ll never hear the end of this.
87Six@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
The end of that era happened in like 2015…
bless@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
You guys, they just want to reduce street day leaks
Surp@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’m not really sure what any of these people want us to do?
Sektor@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Go along with the program like sheep. What else can you do, stop playing new games?
thiscat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
you gotta really look at these CEOs and ask who hurt them
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 1 month ago
sounds like ai is behind all that
pyre@lemmy.world 1 month ago
they make their product and service worse but they’re still trying to fight the console wars in 2026 like that japanese soldier who fought ww2 for 30 years after japan surrendered
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Good thing I skipped a generation of console.
csolisr@hub.azkware.net 1 month ago
Amazing to see all four major players in the AAA gaming industry shooting themselves in the feet one way or another:
- Xbox trying to spread itself thin between consoles and PC, going into studio purchasing sprees that it was unable to maintain long-term and churning them out as we speak
- Steam getting bitten hard by the AI bubble, making their Steam Machine dead on arrival in price, power, and availability of games (although the latter is partly due to a lack of anti-cheat solutions that can be legally deployed on top of an open-source kernel)
- And Nintendo pushing for more expensive games than the competition, and deploying Game Cards for physical games as the worst of both worlds
dudeface@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I already buy everything digitally so don’t mind that much personally, would be nice if they committed to long term backwards compatibility though
VexLogic@feddit.online 1 month ago
The biggest problem with this isn’t really the lack of physical games. (Although this is really disappointing as I used to love having a huge collection of games to look at.) The real problem is where we are being pushed because of this.
Digital games are basically just license keys for us. These companies reserve the right to revoke those license keys from us or just completely remove said game/movie/show from the store and your library whenever they see fit.
Not to mention the end if the used game market but I don’t feel like getting into that right now
dudeface@lemmy.world 1 month ago
This has all been the case on PC for a long time and there isn’t much complaining over there
Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Closing bluepoint is madness. That studio was really good at remastering games