Submitted 7 hours ago by iamthetot@piefed.ca to games@lemmy.world
Rockstar said GTA 6 costs $79.99 across PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X and S, confirming a $10 jump from the standard $70 we’ve seen this generation. The Ultimate Edition, meanwhile, is $20 more, priced $99.99.
GTA 6 physical copies do not include a disc, Rockstar has confirmed. They’re just a code in a box
No PC release means I’ll play it when it goes on sale for $15 a few years from now. I’d pay full price if it launched on PC but I’m not going to reward Rockstar for this shitty “we know you’ll buy it twice” game they play.
I’m already sick of this of this games shit
I was going to buy it in ~5 years on PC for the single player campaign…
But if they’re describing it as a “single player experience” it’s going to be a shitty offshoot of multiplayer instead of a ring campaign that has a multiplayer slapped on.
It sounds like a minor difference, but it means the entire “experience” is just reskinned multiplayer and will push people there so they spend money.
This one will likely be bad
Where are you getting that it’s an offshoot of the mulitplayer? We’ve seen the cinematic trailers and such by now. There are written characters, and you’re not just playing as the create-a-character “John Auto”. I think they’re just saying it’s a single player experience so that people looking for GTA Online know that it won’t be there at launch.
But if they’re describing it as a “single player experience” it’s going to be a shitty offshoot of multiplayer instead of a ring campaign that has a multiplayer slapped on.
This is a massive stretch with zero evidence…
Wow
Hahaha
I get it, but…it’s gonna be a banger. Rockstar may be a terrible place to work, but they make good games. GTAV and RDR2 are among my favorite game experiences.
I just wish it were releasing for PC at the same time.
Oh that was NEVER going to happen. They found out with GTA V and RDR2 that they can triple dip on sales at full price by staggering releases and upgrades. Rockstar will never release everything at the same time again.
used to make good games…
now they make stores and money pits with graphics and mechanics slapped on top.
stop defending these companies who have already proven to not give two fucks about you and want to extort more and more from you.
grow a pair of balls FFS… actually stand up for what’s right and stop caving to your simple mind of, oh but it’s kinda fun
It's like this every time a new GTA comes out.
Good thing I don’t give a single fuck about getting this on release, or multiplayer, or any of the nonsense here. I’ll wait you out Rockstar, and hope the rest of the gaming community is finally tired of your shit.
It was a slippery slope letting the industry upgrade the prices of AAA games to $70.
Can’t be surprised that its $80, but still appalling.
You will own nothing and you will pay twice as much for it
OK, seriously now: Why bother saying you’re going to “release a physical version” that’s nothing more than a code inside an empty plastic box? I really don’t get it.
Many retail games still allow you to have the full game without any account to a service or internet connection.
Some people like to still have the box for collection purposes. Personally, I agree. I think the only physical option at this point should be something like a collectible steelbook if all they’re going to have is a redemption code.
Yeah, Steelbooks and the like make sense, but wanting to buy a piece of plastic that’s just a waste of space… It’s the worse of physical and the digital format, the worse of both worlds.
i like starfields steelbook. the code is on a real version of the in game credits. its heavy and fun to hold
So people can give it as a physical gift. That’s really it.
Gift cards exist. Why not gift cards shaped videogames? Why a nearly empty box?
To sell in physical stores so parents and other people can buy them as gifts.
OK, but why an nearly empty box!? Why not, idk, a card with the code or something? Why a goddamn box with a little piece of paper in it? At least Nintendo’s key-cards are something (shitty, but something nonetheless)
To play devil’s advocate: physical disc releases are a security nightmare.
Pirate groups pay big money to get access to disc images before release so they can have a crack ready on day 1, and leakers would love to get early access so they can drip feed information for social media cred. The bounty for an early iso of GTA VI would be astronomical.
I do however agree that releasing a ‘physical edition’ that’s just a code in a box is a waste of everyone’s time and money, not to mention materials destined for landfill.
My problem isn’t so much that the box is empty (though that’s part of it), but rather: Why sell an empty box in the first place? Why not focus on digital and stop wasting everyone’s time?
I’m not entirely sure, but the game disc can still be sold. Isn’t it? If it is just a code you enter and then don’t need the disc anymore, then you cannot sell it. Its basically a digital code only, like on Steam / PC. But if the game disc acts as a license, then it will download the rest of the game and you still need the disc to play. In that case you can sell the disc and no longer play the game. Similar to how game key cards work on Switch 2.
Another reason why big publishers want to have a physical release is, that they have a presence everywhere where “normal” games are also sold. Maybe your mom buys it for you, or a friend gives a gift.
But what’s the use of the box in “code-in-a-box”? It’s so fucking useless is insulting.
Lol im not paying a cent over $20 for it
From my (PC) point of view GTA 6 comes in 2029 then. OK. I’ll wait. I have waited 30 years for VR to arrive, I can wait 2 years for GTA 6, big whoop.
You know the industry has gone downhill when they have to reiterate that it includes a “single-player experience” at launch.
I always thought Grand Theft Auto VI would have a single-player mode, but I guess some people focus more on multiplayer.
To be fair, GTAV online made them magnitudes more money than the initial single player price. It’d help if simps would stop paying real money for fake money to buy digital cars and boats and such.
Between September and April, they made $12 million per day on GTA Online. 70% came from PS players!
I’m personally not interested in the multiplayer, but some people really are. I think it’s good for Rockstar to clarify that it won’t have multiplayer at launch. I don’t think that is a commentary on the state of the industry; I think it’s good communication from the devs in fact. I’m really quite surprised by how much people have honed in on that specific wording as a negative.
This is where everyone complains about the price and then goes out and buys it anyway, letting the industry know they can price gouge us.
The older I get, the more comfortable I am ignoring the hype and just waiting for something to go on sale. I’ll wait years now. I don’t care. Lots of other games.
I was pretty excited for Dead Island 2. Ended up waiting and waiting and then I got it for free from Epic. Worked out pretty well for me.
I’m also a PC gamer, so I won’t even get the opportunity to play GTA6 for another year or two after it comes out on console.
This won’t come to PC and will most certainly have the most invasive anti cheat possible. Hard pass
And it certainly won’t work on Linux. A big no from me.
For GTA5, the single player works on Linux even though their anti cheat prevents playing the multiplayer.
I’m going to do the same thing I did with GTAV: wait ten years and get it for free on Epic or whatever.
I wonder if you still have to tap X to run like it’s 2002. At least default that shit to the Tears of the Kingdom style where you just hold the button.
This might be the first mainline GTA to NOT outsell the previous GTA
Would be pretty wild but I wouldn’t hold my breath.
230m copies is an insane bar to clear, even for this juggernaut. I’m sure Rockstar’s expecting some headwinds on the price, but nothing major.
Contrary to what the industry is hoping, this will not allow other games to sell at $80. Customers are already having a hard time justifying $70.
Two of my favorite games of all time got remakes and are frequently on sale on Steam. MGS3 and FFTactics. Even on sale neither one is justifiable at $50 and $35. Death Stranding 2 at $70. Nahh. Pragmata at $60. Nope. Hell even Tempest Rising at $35 is too much for me right now. This hobby has been pushed to the extreme margins. There’s a large center girth of games I’d love to play but calling it justifiable is hard for anything over $20 right now.
I don’t remember the last time I paid more than $15-20. I have too much a backlog and too many more important things to spend money on than an inflated day-one AAA. Even GTA6 is a maybe for me, and that’s a solid-looking addition to a series I’ve been playing for almost 30 years.
I only just finally caved and got Cyberpunk recently, and that’s because it was on sale for ~$18USD.
Waiting for a sale is the only way unless you have magic money burning a hole in your pocket and you’re dying for a game that never goes on sale (Factorio I’m looking at you)
30+ = trash
60% off or more and the game still costs $30 = trash
Electronic Arts. … Activision Blizzard. … Rockstar Games. … Epic Games. …
all trash companies that make stores with game mechanics…
Website details the game actually blocks off stuff if you don’t buy the most expensive version
They are insane if they do that.
Blocking stuff off means, what though? Any game with 2 editions and a difference in content can be seen as glass half full or half empty: the higher edition "adds content to the lower edition", or the lower edition "blocks content from the higher edition." Usually the missing content is vehicles, guns, skins, costumes, etc.
But if they're blocking parts of the map, or he story, then that's a whole different beast.
Oh well, might play it when it’s on sale in five years.
Also wtf is a “single player experience”? Is this going to focus almost completely on GTA Online?
Pretty sure it means the exact opposite. GTA Online is NOT a single player experience in any way shape or form. They’re saying that it isn’t going to have that at launch.
experience means it’s not true singleplayer campaign…
it’s marketing lies… stop eating the nonsense
I see no reason to believe that the “single player experience” is anything other the campaign you’d expect out of a new Grand Theft Auto.
It’s normal to be suspicious in the enshitification era.
Hopefully it’s a normal campaign. And maybe it’s a single player mode based on the true game which is the mmo. An afterthought. Like how ESO can be played without interacting with other players, but it’s not fun. A single player “experience”
There’s a lot more negativity surrounding that wording than I expected. For me, it’s like the best part of the announcement probably. I gives me hope that the game will be solid, and that an online component wasn’t the main focus (which some people were concerned about, given the financial success of GTA Online).
I don’t know why they chose that exact wording, but it’s really weird and sounds like the single-player campaign is just some by-product of GTA Online. Maybe it’s not, maybe it’s going to be great, I’ll wait anyway, I’m not paying 80€ for this.
$114CAD for the standard edition and $142CAD for the ultimate edition, before taxes of course.
Go fuck yourselves, Rockstar. Not that I ever intended to actually buy this because, y’know, scummy greedy company, but this really seals the deal.
I was wondering about CAD, thanks.
Rockstar fired 31 employees for forming a union. If you care about workers rights, now is the time to put your money where your mouth is.
Fuck Rockstar. Absolute piece of shit company! And shame on any of you people for playing this dumpster fire.
I hope you find the help you need.
Gut feeling is this is gonna run like crap on base PS5. Downscaled to 1080p, 60 fps if we’re lucky. Same thing happened with crimson desert.
I’d buy it on PC if I was able to but I am certainly not getting a ps5 pro just for this. I’m hesitant to even consider the PS6 in a few years without a TV that can do HDMI 2.1
Rockstar has a pretty good track record with console optimization, for what it’s worth.
The only game I wanted to own a console for, and that was only due to wanting to play at release. But I never got a PS5 and they’re much more expensive now, have to wait again. Or get a used PS5. And no disc is a crock of shit of course.
Soooo, why doesn’t it release on PC if consoles won’t even get physical copies ?
Probably because they get fat bonuses from console manufacturers to release there first. Then they can release on PC later for full price and people will still buy it.
Console players spend a whole lot more in GTA Online than PC players do. Probably because PC players mod more.
Jesus fuck. Why don’t we make MMOs anymore? This hybrid “single player” game with online match making is the dumbest shit.
I mean… We do. Guild wars just announced their new MMO. One of my favorite MMOs just had a full release. Then of course, games like guild wars 2 and ffxiv are releasing expansions, and guild wars revived guild wars 1 with the promise of new content. Its certainly not the most popular genre and theres niches within it, but theyre being made and being played (by me)
Nobody in the right mind is buying AAA games at launch. They always go on sale a few months later.
I buy many at launch, and sell them a few weeks later with a small loss. Not going do that with GTA 6 as there is no disc version, so I’ll wait for a discount. Plenty of other things to play.
Plenty of folks in their right mind are buying AAA games at launch. Being in the zeitgeist, and talking with other folks when they also experienced the same creative work, has value. It’s the same reason folks see movies in the theater instead of waiting for streaming or a boxed release.
Noup, standard wasn’t 70.
Standard was 59,99 and will always be 59,99. Never forget, never forgive.
“Features a ‘Single Player Experience’ at launch”
wtf does that even mean. Was there a possibility it would be launched without the story or campaign? If so, that implies that online was their primary target and they just threw a story in there to prevent people from hating it.
Also why is it a “single player experience” and not, oh you know, the game itself. Sadly that phrasing uses enough weasel words that it makes me think that Online is the first-class citizen and the story is just a tacked on afterthought.
Needless to say I’m waiting for the game to come out and some further reviews before committing to anything.
Seize everything this massive world has to offer with the GTA 6: Ultimate Edition, an exclusive collection of premium vehicles, weapons, apparel, and action around every corner. Ultimate Edition bonuses are threaded across all aspects of Jason and Lucia’s story, with new items uncovered behind each chapter.
The ultimate edition doesn’t include anything important, but the whole premise that they can charge $20 for something that is already in the game and is artificially hidden from you doesn’t spark joy in my heart. I was going to wait for independent reviews anyway, but with this nonsense I’ll probably wait for a solid discount too. Besides, I don’t expect good performance on my non-pro PS5.
Not that I agree with Nintendo charging $80 for Mario Kart, but at least Nintendo had decency to give people an actual physical copy, not lock content behind an additional $20 upgrade and not fire the people who mad the game for unionising.
I’ll wait a year and get it on physical
Graphiar@lemmy.zip 53 minutes ago
On the lack of a physical disc, I’m gonna play devils advocate here and just remind some of you that, while it’s fucking stupid these companies are selling boxes with codes in them, as that is absolutely not a physical release, the days of physical media are over.
Blueray discs max out at around 4MB/s write speeds. Meanwhile SSDs can read data at 400-500 MB/s, and NVME Gen 3 alone can do at minimum 1.5 GB/s. The fact is that modern games are just too massive in scale to warrant those slow speeds on disc. Even ignoring the physical constants of Blueray Discs, which max out at around 30-40GB of data at the top of my head, (GTA 6 is guaranteed to be over 100GB) the game is constantly streaming data at rates that those discs just can not feed to the hardware.
I’m personally just sick and tired of people getting up and arms about this, acting like it’s a choice to not bundle games on physical media anymore when there is a genuine physical limitation to this. To clarify I personally believe that these companies and researchers could come up with a newer technology for this. So, it’s not JUST physical limitations. I think Sony and Microsoft, and the various other publishers know that in the long run they save money without having to manufacture physical media, plus digital sales effectively make the used game market extinct. But that takes money and time. We have flash storage that is 30x faster nowadays. It’s not worth it.
Feel free to ignore my rant. Just had to get this out as I’m sick of seeing misinformation spread that they can absolutely get these games on disc. They can’t.
VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 3 minutes ago
Single layer BDs are 25GB, but dual-layer BDs are 50GB and released simultaneously in 2006, 2010 introduced triple-layer discs with 100GB capacity, and we’ve had quadruple-layer discs at 125GB since 2018. I’m not sure I’ve ever even seen a single layer BD, to be honest.
iamthetot@piefed.ca 17 minutes ago
Games haven’t streamed from the disc in… I don’t even know how long anymore. The game installs from the disc onto your console for the actual playing.
But the fact that the data is on disc means that I can install it now, or in five years, or in ten years, even after they may have shut down servers or removed it from stores making only the more expensive re release available, etc.
And games have released on multiple discs for decades when necessary.
I can also resell a physical disc. I can let my friend borrow my physical disc. I cannot do those things with a redemption code.
Graphiar@lemmy.zip 1 minute ago
I understand what you’re saying, and yes hypothetically they could put the games on multiple discs to transfer over to your hard drive. But ignoring the manufacturing costs, you’re still limited to the read/write speeds of those disc drives. Transferring data from disc to hard drive is a little faster but not by much. Even if the game is at minimum 100GB, and assuming 30GB per disc hypothetically, that’s about 3 discs….it would take literal hours to transfer the game over to the console. Versus most people with decent internet simply downloading it directly, around 2-3 hours hypothetically. Sometimes even less than that if you have 800mb/s internet which is extremely common nowadays.
This wouldn’t be a big deal if the games were smaller in size, as history as shown. But they’re just too damn big now. And quite honestly from a consumer perspective I think the industry has shown nobody wants to go back to owning multiple discs/physical media for a single product. I’m old enough to remember needing multiple floppies to install certain games. I don’t miss that. Not to mention you HAVE to be there to babysit it so when the data finishes copying over, you have to remove the disc, put disc 2 in, etc. I don’t miss that, consumers have shown they don’t miss that.
So I understand the sentiment and I do miss owning physical media. I wish more research would go into developing new technologies so we can bring that back. It’s just not viable with current technology.