Submitted 2 weeks ago by iamthetot@piefed.ca to games@lemmy.world
Rockstar said GTA 6 costs $79.99 across PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X and S, confirming a $10 jump from the standard $70 we’ve seen this generation. The Ultimate Edition, meanwhile, is $20 more, priced $99.99.
GTA 6 physical copies do not include a disc, Rockstar has confirmed. They’re just a code in a box
OK, seriously now: Why bother saying you’re going to “release a physical version” that’s nothing more than a code inside an empty plastic box? I really don’t get it.
Some people like to still have the box for collection purposes. Personally, I agree. I think the only physical option at this point should be something like a collectible steelbook if all they’re going to have is a redemption code.
Yeah, Steelbooks and the like make sense, but wanting to buy a piece of plastic that’s just a waste of space… It’s the worse of physical and the digital format, the worse of both worlds.
i like starfields steelbook. the code is on a real version of the in game credits. its heavy and fun to hold
That’s way, the people with slow Internet will have a nice box to look at while their download fail.
Now that’s a reasonable response lol
To sell in physical stores so parents and other people can buy them as gifts.
OK, but why an nearly empty box!? Why not, idk, a card with the code or something? Why a goddamn box with a little piece of paper in it? At least Nintendo’s key-cards are something (shitty, but something nonetheless)
I’m not entirely sure, but the game disc can still be sold. Isn’t it? If it is just a code you enter and then don’t need the disc anymore, then you cannot sell it. Its basically a digital code only, like on Steam / PC. But if the game disc acts as a license, then it will download the rest of the game and you still need the disc to play. In that case you can sell the disc and no longer play the game. Similar to how game key cards work on Switch 2.
Another reason why big publishers want to have a physical release is, that they have a presence everywhere where “normal” games are also sold. Maybe your mom buys it for you, or a friend gives a gift.
But what’s the use of the box in “code-in-a-box”? It’s so fucking useless is insulting.
To play devil’s advocate: physical disc releases are a security nightmare.
Pirate groups pay big money to get access to disc images before release so they can have a crack ready on day 1, and leakers would love to get early access so they can drip feed information for social media cred. The bounty for an early iso of GTA VI would be astronomical.
I do however agree that releasing a ‘physical edition’ that’s just a code in a box is a waste of everyone’s time and money, not to mention materials destined for landfill.
My problem isn’t so much that the box is empty (though that’s part of it), but rather: Why sell an empty box in the first place? Why not focus on digital and stop wasting everyone’s time?
Some stores have said that they won’t sell the physical copy of GTA 6, due to it being just a code.
There are some rumors going around that a physical disc copy of the game comes out in December, so I guess it’s better than nothing, but still sucks.
Same question:
Why are funko pops?
Same answer.
Many retail games still allow you to have the full game without any account to a service or internet connection.
How does that work with a “Code-in-a-box”?
So people can give it as a physical gift. That’s really it.
Gift cards exist. Why not gift cards shaped videogames? Why a nearly empty box?
Contrary to what the industry is hoping, this will not allow other games to sell at $80. Customers are already having a hard time justifying $70.
I don’t remember the last time I paid more than $15-20. I have too much a backlog and too many more important things to spend money on than an inflated day-one AAA. Even GTA6 is a maybe for me, and that’s a solid-looking addition to a series I’ve been playing for almost 30 years.
I only just finally caved and got Cyberpunk recently, and that’s because it was on sale for ~$18USD.
Waiting for a sale is the only way unless you have magic money burning a hole in your pocket and you’re dying for a game that never goes on sale (Factorio I’m looking at you)
30+ = trash
60% off or more and the game still costs $30 = trash
Electronic Arts. … Activision Blizzard. … Rockstar Games. … Epic Games. …
all trash companies that make stores with game mechanics…
Two of my favorite games of all time got remakes and are frequently on sale on Steam. MGS3 and FFTactics. Even on sale neither one is justifiable at $50 and $35. Death Stranding 2 at $70. Nahh. Pragmata at $60. Nope. Hell even Tempest Rising at $35 is too much for me right now. This hobby has been pushed to the extreme margins. There’s a large center girth of games I’d love to play but calling it justifiable is hard for anything over $20 right now.
No PC release means I’ll play it when it goes on sale for $15 a few years from now. I’d pay full price if it launched on PC but I’m not going to reward Rockstar for this shitty “we know you’ll buy it twice” game they play.
I will wait to know if it’s Linux compatible before I buy
This company will never, and I mean absolutely fucking never, make it compatible with Linux. In order to play it on Linux it will have to be so unbelievably cracked that it will be basically free on the internet. And that will probably be at least 3 to 5 years from now. Possibly longer.
Bro, you’re already paying for 2 games buying it at 100 dollars.
Same, and all I really give a shit about anyway is the single player, so this is perfect
Yep I agree, if it where to work on Linux I might consider it hopefully fully playable OFFLINE. If I where to buy the game it will probably be the cheapest version tho. 100 euros for a game is quite a lot.
On the other hand, there is also a option I skip the game entirely. FH6 worked flawless on Linux for about 20 hours. After that the save game somehow became corrupt and I can’t play anymore. Talking about wasted money. I am even more skeptical of these online games now. 🫣
I remember when the entire concept of digital downloads was sold to us as a way to make games cheaper, and the sacrifices we make on physical media, boxes, manuals, pack ins, etc, would ensure those cheaper games still saw devs making more money than they ever would with a physical copy.
I called bullshit on it from the start.
and now we have digital download games that cost 80-100 dollars.
GTA5 made a billion dollars in 3 days.
I fully expect idiotic fucking gamers to make GTA6 earn a billion dollars in half a day, and thus rewarding this shit so spectacularly that every game that follows will also be 80-100 dollars.
And those same gamers will cry… oh lord will they cry, about the incredulity, willfully oblivious to the fact that its their very fault that it happened.
If game prices had adjusted for inflation, we’d be paying 250-300 for one now.
That doesn’t mean it isn’t just greed especially in this case (from what I heard some pretty basic features like car customization are locked behind the “ultimate edition”), but in general it’s more of a miracle (and result of the massive market growth combined with no unit cost) that game prices have ignored inflation for this long.
Always gotta be someone to white knight.
Won’t someone think of the poor companies, they are making record profits…but we should be paying more because they’re not making enough record profits!
They will also cry that the game is incomplete or buggy as they keep preordering every shitty game.instead of waiting for half a year.
Yep.
Preorder the most expensive version, then cry about the state of gaming that they helped create.
We already went through this with videocards, where idiots paid scalpers ridiculously insane amounts of money for scalped cards cause they could not go without new shiny for 5 minutes… And anyone with a brain said its going to hurt gaming and video cards in the long run, because its showing amd and nvidia that people are willing to spend 2000 for a 500 dollar card.
and wouldnt you know it, card prices magically skyrocketed as soon as stock stabilized, and suddenly now the prices are unfair and insane.
A fool and his money are quick to part ways.
… I’m still adhering to ‘Remember: No Preorders’, from fucking 15 years ago now.
Oh well, might play it when it’s on sale in five years.
Also wtf is a “single player experience”? Is this going to focus almost completely on GTA Online?
Pretty sure it means the exact opposite. GTA Online is NOT a single player experience in any way shape or form. They’re saying that it isn’t going to have that at launch.
experience means it’s not true singleplayer campaign…
it’s marketing lies… stop eating the nonsense
I see no reason to believe that the “single player experience” is anything other the campaign you’d expect out of a new Grand Theft Auto.
It’s normal to be suspicious in the enshitification era.
Hopefully it’s a normal campaign. And maybe it’s a single player mode based on the true game which is the mmo. An afterthought. Like how ESO can be played without interacting with other players, but it’s not fun. A single player “experience”
There’s a lot more negativity surrounding that wording than I expected. For me, it’s like the best part of the announcement probably. I gives me hope that the game will be solid, and that an online component wasn’t the main focus (which some people were concerned about, given the financial success of GTA Online).
I don’t know why they chose that exact wording, but it’s really weird and sounds like the single-player campaign is just some by-product of GTA Online. Maybe it’s not, maybe it’s going to be great, I’ll wait anyway, I’m not paying 80€ for this.
$100 if you want:
The entire map / all interactive world locations.
The entire story.
Ability to customize vehicles.
All of the game’s vehicles.
All of personal cosmetic customization options, such as clothes, tattoos, makeup, etc.
All of the weapon customization options.
So really, the actual game is $100 dollars, that does not include Online, but there’s a slimmed down poor person edition available for $80 bucks.
GTA Online 2 or w/e looks like its gonna be a monthly subscription to even access it.
Oh also there are no physical editions.
None.
All digital, the ‘physical’ is just a code in a box.
Now, the actual ‘extra’ content in the Ultimate Edition is an 80s/Vice City/Miami Vice cosmetic pack.
But the reality is that the base version is a stripped down version of the actual game, which is the Ultimate Edition.
This is exactly the case. The made the $80 version the budget edition. One where you get an incomplete package for not paying the $100 that the game actually costs.
All that and I will bet you anything that they will have in-game purchases. Some kind of currency that you can purchase with real money that you can use in the game to buy extra shit.
Well if they keep going with the GTA5/RDR2 framework, it would be Shark Cards/Gold, and a two tier in game currency system.
Give them real money, you get in game currency 1 or 2, some in game items cost currency 1, some cost ingame currency 2.
They set the ‘exchange rates’, as well as prices of special items, and they set the increment amounts you can buy ingame crncy 1 and 2 for, such that for ingame purchase combos they know are likely, well you have to spend a little bit more real world money and have some leftover ingame currency.
They basically wrote the book on using psychologically manipulative dark patterns in system structuring and UI design for this sort of stuff.
GTA Online is a ludicrous money printer in the way Steam is a money printer for Valve.
… But with Steam you’re getting, you know, new games. With Rockstar, you’re getting bling and overpowered vehicles snd weapons to troll people with.
Now… I don’t think they’d extend the ingame currency to be something you could purchase for single player GTA6. That seems like it just be waay too much, even for them, it would make single player into as much of a pay 2 win joke as GTA5 Online is.
But I guess its not impossible?
Fuck! I wanted to buy second hand so Rockshit doesn’t get my money. You can’t just fire like 35 developers a year before the big release. What a fucking evil shit company. But yes, I still want to play because I’m a bad person.
You don’t have to be a bad person.
… you can wait untill it comes to PC, we’ll get it cracked eventually.
But uh yeah, fire a whole bunch of devs right before release?
That’s AAA industry standard, been that way for like 15 years now, they basically all do that.
It’s even worse than them just firing them. They fired them for being union members and trying to organize a larger Union in their workforce. This was union busting. And they did it by claiming these people leaked confidential information. Which is blacklisting.
Fuck that company.
GTA Online 2 or w/e looks like its gonna be a monthly subscription to even access it.
Source?
www.tweaktown.com/news/112343/…/index.html
GTA 6 is a ‘singleplayer experience,’ GTA Online may be sold separately
Rockstar Games and Sony seem to confirm GTA 6 will be a singleplayer game, possibly indicating that the next version of GTA Online could be standalone.
… (bunch of examples of Rockstar repeatedly describing GTA 6 as ‘a single player experience’ consistently across all of its marketing material, everywhere) …
This gave Rockstar lots of flexibility in how gamers interact with the game itself–which has splintered into two very distinct offerings–and many analysts believed and took for granted that Rockstar would simply ship GTA Online as a free component within GTA 6’s base game.
If I had to guess, I would say that Rockstar is currently preparing to essentially translate the existing version of GTA Online, which takes place in Los Santos, to the other side of the country in Vice City’s crime-ridden streets.
It’s possible we could see the current iteration of GTA Online go into retirement as Rockstar moves into the next version, however, all of this takes time and a lot of manpower and money, so it’s possible that the new version of GTA Online simply isn’t ready yet.
GTA+ would probably be involved in this process in some way, potentially offering access to GTA Online by default while also adding in extras and bonuses like vehicles and weapons.
Rockstar fired 31 employees for forming a union. If you care about workers rights, now is the time to put your money where your mouth is.
You know the industry has gone downhill when they have to reiterate that it includes a “single-player experience” at launch.
I always thought Grand Theft Auto VI would have a single-player mode, but I guess some people focus more on multiplayer.
To be fair, GTAV online made them magnitudes more money than the initial single player price. It’d help if simps would stop paying real money for fake money to buy digital cars and boats and such.
Between September and April, they made $12 million per day on GTA Online. 70% came from PS players!
I’m personally not interested in the multiplayer, but some people really are. I think it’s good for Rockstar to clarify that it won’t have multiplayer at launch. I don’t think that is a commentary on the state of the industry; I think it’s good communication from the devs in fact. I’m really quite surprised by how much people have honed in on that specific wording as a negative.
$114CAD for the standard edition and $142CAD for the ultimate edition, before taxes of course.
Go fuck yourselves, Rockstar. Not that I ever intended to actually buy this because, y’know, scummy greedy company, but this really seals the deal.
This is where everyone complains about the price and then goes out and buys it anyway, letting the industry know they can price gouge us.
The older I get, the more comfortable I am ignoring the hype and just waiting for something to go on sale. I’ll wait years now. I don’t care. Lots of other games.
I was pretty excited for Dead Island 2. Ended up waiting and waiting and then I got it for free from Epic. Worked out pretty well for me.
I’m also a PC gamer, so I won’t even get the opportunity to play GTA6 for another year or two after it comes out on console.
I’m going to do the same thing I did with GTAV: wait ten years and get it for free on Epic or whatever.
I wonder if you still have to tap X to run like it’s 2002. At least default that shit to the Tears of the Kingdom style where you just hold the button.
Noup, standard wasn’t 70.
Standard was 59,99 and will always be 59,99. Never forget, never forgive.
This won’t come to PC and will most certainly have the most invasive anti cheat possible. Hard pass
From my (PC) point of view GTA 6 comes in 2029 then. OK. I’ll wait. I have waited 30 years for VR to arrive, I can wait 2 years for GTA 6, big whoop.
Website details the game actually blocks off stuff if you don’t buy the most expensive version
Nobody in the right mind is buying AAA games at launch. They always go on sale a few months later.
Good thing I don’t give a single fuck about getting this on release, or multiplayer, or any of the nonsense here. I’ll wait you out Rockstar, and hope the rest of the gaming community is finally tired of your shit.
You will own nothing and you will pay twice as much for it
Seize everything this massive world has to offer with the GTA 6: Ultimate Edition, an exclusive collection of premium vehicles, weapons, apparel, and action around every corner. Ultimate Edition bonuses are threaded across all aspects of Jason and Lucia’s story, with new items uncovered behind each chapter.
Lol im not paying a cent over $20 for it
The ultimate edition doesn’t include anything important, but the whole premise that they can charge $20 for something that is already in the game and is artificially hidden from you doesn’t spark joy in my heart. I was going to wait for independent reviews anyway, but with this nonsense I’ll probably wait for a solid discount too. Besides, I don’t expect good performance on my non-pro PS5.
Fuck Rockstar. Absolute piece of shit company! And shame on any of you people for playing this dumpster fire.
“Features a ‘Single Player Experience’ at launch”
wtf does that even mean. Was there a possibility it would be launched without the story or campaign? If so, that implies that online was their primary target and they just threw a story in there to prevent people from hating it.
Also why is it a “single player experience” and not, oh you know, the game itself. Sadly that phrasing uses enough weasel words that it makes me think that Online is the first-class citizen and the story is just a tacked on afterthought.
Needless to say I’m waiting for the game to come out and some further reviews before committing to anything.
No physical, no purchase. Period.
I jnow this game will sell like crazy and make billions. But cmon it would be so funny if it made a concord.
This might be the first mainline GTA to NOT outsell the previous GTA
Not that I agree with Nintendo charging $80 for Mario Kart, but at least Nintendo had decency to give people an actual physical copy, not lock content behind an additional $20 upgrade and not fire the people who mad the game for unionising.
It was a slippery slope letting the industry upgrade the prices of AAA games to $70.
Can’t be surprised that its $80, but still appalling.
Jesus fuck. Why don’t we make MMOs anymore? This hybrid “single player” game with online match making is the dumbest shit.
mrmisses@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m already sick of this of this games shit
givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I was going to buy it in ~5 years on PC for the single player campaign…
But if they’re describing it as a “single player experience” it’s going to be a shitty offshoot of multiplayer instead of a ring campaign that has a multiplayer slapped on.
It sounds like a minor difference, but it means the entire “experience” is just reskinned multiplayer and will push people there so they spend money.
This one will likely be bad
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Where are you getting that it’s an offshoot of the mulitplayer? We’ve seen the cinematic trailers and such by now. There are written characters, and you’re not just playing as the create-a-character “John Auto”. I think they’re just saying it’s a single player experience so that people looking for GTA Online know that it won’t be there at launch.
popcar2@piefed.ca 2 weeks ago
This is a massive stretch with zero evidence…
oxideseven@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Sounds like they just mean no gtao…
TheDeadInternet@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Shark cards are their cash cow there’s going to be a online that’s pushing people to buy them.
It’s wild you could use local hacks that were just a text file to give yourself unlimited money and spawn things and people still paying for shark cards.
thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Wow
TheRealKuni@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Hahaha
I get it, but…it’s gonna be a banger. Rockstar may be a terrible place to work, but they make good games. GTAV and RDR2 are among my favorite game experiences.
I just wish it were releasing for PC at the same time.
halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Oh that was NEVER going to happen. They found out with GTA V and RDR2 that they can triple dip on sales at full price by staggering releases and upgrades. Rockstar will never release everything at the same time again.
Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
used to make good games…
now they make stores and money pits with graphics and mechanics slapped on top.
stop defending these companies who have already proven to not give two fucks about you and want to extort more and more from you.
grow a pair of balls FFS… actually stand up for what’s right and stop caving to your simple mind of, oh but it’s kinda fun
Chozo@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
It's like this every time a new GTA comes out.
tomiant@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Nope. Started around after Voce City