If there’s heavy traffic in your city and private cars are still preferable to public transport, your infrastructure is shit and you should go pester your politicians about it
Well done, all of you!
Submitted 3 weeks ago by gigastasio@sh.itjust.works to [deleted]
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rockerface@lemmy.cafe 3 weeks ago
platypode@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
What do I do if the public transit is pretty good and the city is walkable, but all the jobs are in office parks 40 minutes out of town?
Chais@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Pester your politicians that they forgot a part of the walkable city. Either a walkable workplace or work from home.
stickyprimer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m in an odd situation where there’s heavy traffic but we have very good bike lanes and bike trails. Yet I am afraid to use the bike lanes most of the time because the drivers are so insane. And half the people who do ride bikes end up doing it wrong because they feel unsafe: they ride in the bike lane against traffic or just ride on the sidewalks where they become the threat: to pedestrians.
rockerface@lemmy.cafe 2 weeks ago
Public transport would still alleviate the issue by moving a portion of the drivers off the roads. Which, in turn, will make bike lanes safer.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
How could having my own personal space that operates on my schedule ever not be preferable to being crammed into a smelly tube with a bunch of other people?
rockerface@lemmy.cafe 2 weeks ago
Maybe if you gave even a fraction of care that you give your car to the people around you, it wouldn’t be smelly and crammed.
yermaw@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
These ‘zipper merge’ vs ‘early merge’ arguments are really the worst. At the same time, the lack of consensus fully explains why merge zones like that are such a mess.
Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I remember driving through OK, and the state law is “early merge.” I thought it was all bullshit, buuut they have studies 1 year after they implemented it that it actually cut down on traffic somehow. I still believe the late zipper merge is better. Use the whole road until you can’t!
Leviathan@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
What discussion? Zipper merge is a well defined technique.
More like half the people know how to zipper merge and the other half try to justify merging a mile early and getting angry when people pass them and zipper merge properly.
dan69@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Let pedestrians and cyclists go first. Scramble walk is okay and sjould be encouraged
PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I like how I stumbled into your
sjouldright after you made me imagine the scramble-walk. Somehow my brain crossed circuits and when I readsjould, my imagined scramble-walker slipped on wet pavement and half fell.Brains are weird.
ijustliketrains@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I hate scramble walks that act like you can’t still walk while traffic is going. The light is green just turn the walk sign on.
Leviathan@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I support this wholeheartedly. Cars should be banned.
LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Sorry bud, you’re the party that doesn’t understand zipper merging.
empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
The clear solution is to park inside a light rail station.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I assume it shouldn’t be one at street level. Do you recommend an elevated station or an underground one?
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Get creative with it. Imagine you’re earning style points like in GTA.
potpotato@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This was an elevated station
Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
maps.app.goo.gl/GC4RDV68mTKNzDyx5?g_st=ic
I have you tagged as “Seattle” already, so this is our city! She turned onto it south of here where it’s at grade, but this is the Mount Baker station where it is elevated.
empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Go to Utah lol elevated for sure lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/69951707
RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 3 weeks ago
GO AS FAST AS POSSIBLE DON’T STOP DON’T YIELD ONLY THE STRONG SURVIVE
Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Some people think that if there’s a hwy lane closure in 30 miles, you’re the asshole of you don’t immediately merge over
Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I don’t mind personally, but don’t assume that your blinker means I HAVE to let you in
Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Definitely. I personally merge earlier, knowing it’s less efficient and will put me back relative to zipper merging - just to avoid the stress of trying to get in between potentially uncooperative mergees. But I also don’t get too mad at the mergers - maybe they’re in a legit hurry
Grazed@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You do, though, depending on where you live. It’s the law in plenty of countries, and for good reason. Lanes are meant to be used until they end, and the best strategy with traffic is a zipper merge. Every other car should be from the ending lane, assuming there are cars in the ending lane. If you aren’t letting the next person in to the continuing lane, you are an asshole, and a dangerous driver.
EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
And some people think inflating numbers proves their point.
Plus, If you have 30 miles of signs telling you to get over and you wait until you are forced by the actual lane closure, yes you are the asshole.
I will not be taking questions.
Grazed@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If you have 30 miles of ending lane warnings, you should still ride it until the actual end. It’s best for congestion. Leaving a whole lane unused is pointless. It’s better for everyone if you wait to merge.
Saapas@piefed.zip 3 weeks ago
If there’s a lot of traffic it makes sense to try and find room to merge early though
WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
“Early” being relative to the specific vehicles involved. Lorries/tractor-trailers needs a LOT more time to find an opening before a merge than a “four-wheeler” does.
Besides it’s long been proven that “zipper merging” - which is basically waiting up to almost the last second to merge - is the more efficient method.
prettybunnys@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
It always makes sense to merge at the last safe moment, but only if everyone else is doing that which requires everyone to trust each other and I can trust myself but I can’t trust any of you fuckers, etc.
plyth@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
If there’s a lot of traffic it makes sense to try and find room to merge early though
Not at all. You destroy a smooth process where both lanes drive at the same speed. It turns into a stop and go in one lane while the other keeps getting filled with new cars from the back that join at the last moment.
Grazed@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Only because of dumbasses who won’t let everyone zipper merge. If we could actually educate people on how to zipper merge, we wouldn’t need to pull off a heist to get out of an ending lane.
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Some people eat up rage bait like a fine meal
gigastasio@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Something something milk before cereal something…
WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
That implies taking the time to appreciate its finer qualities. I’d say it’s more like feeding time at the trough.
CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
God damnit , now I gotta go watch police academy 1-765 now
dan69@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Hot tip: if your bumper to bumper during congestion or construction periods. You need to have at least 2-3 (minimum 1) car spaces between you and the car/truck in front of you. This way you’ll maintain a steady speed (maybe btwn 2-9 mph) rather than coming to complete halt every stretch.
imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Even hotter tip: on a highway, if the line on your right is free, switch to it. Left line(s) is only for overtaking.
Once drivers learn this simple rule, speed limits can be lifted on certain highway parts so whoever wants to go faster now can fulfill their desire.
BlackVenom@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
But but but but
(Continuing on the meta where slowbros and campers took aim at a bumper sticker that said “keep right” with strawmen)
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That just invites people to keep pulling in front of you, and now you’re driving slowly while the lane in front of you is moving faster, and you’ve become the traffic jam.
dan69@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Just like like my comment - you got hooked for no reason. The congestion is already there why are you gonna pile up… on a queue…
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yep. Tailgating causes fullstops.
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
Smaile@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
This post was sending me, none of yal know how to drive like a standard human.
dan69@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Um comparing this to my thread. Your off by two community posts…
duckwingthegoose@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I didnt open that post cause I knew immediately that it would devolve into the age old fight of when to merge. This confirms I made the right choice, to always merge instantaneously when a sign that lane is ending is first seen in the distance.
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I thought everyone would just get along and be happy
baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
_Who holds back the electric car?
Who makes Steve Guttenberg a star?_
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
If we didn’t have to drive everywhere, we could eliminate these arguments 🤷♂️
HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
why?
snooggums@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
When it comes to traffic people have wildly different ideas about things.
Some people think slow means 5 mph slower on the highway when others are talking about 15+ slower in center lanes generally for faster traffic. Local expectations about behaving in traffic means someone waiting closer to a merge is just doing the right thing for a zipper merge and other people are used to assholes raving to the merge and then forcing themselves in.
People often also thing of the other behaviors of drivers that do certain things that makes one thing more dangerous. In my experience drivers who are significantly slower in traffic by 10-15 mph on the highway frequently do rapid lane changes without signaling, brake suddenly for no reason, and other signs that they really should not be driving a vehicle. People who don’t drive on highways is not going to be thinking of that kind of speed disparity or the dangers if they drive 45 or under where going 15 mph less is annoying but not really dangerous.
Communication about things that have wildly different experiences means people talking past each other leads to arguments.
Hoodoir@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Hot take:
No matter how good or crap you think the traffic laws are in your place are, the best bet is to follow them because if you don’t you will likely have to pay a lot of money that you probably don’t have to just throw away. Speed limits are limits, meaning maximums, merging should go like a zipper, yielding to traffic already up to speed is safest, driving without substances impairing your body is safest.
Its quite simple but a lot of people think they should be allowed to rebel against the laws and get away with doing whatever they want because the rules shouldn’t apply to them specifically.Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
Don’t mind me, appropriating this meme.
w3ird_sloth@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Be. The. Sunshine.
MehBlah@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Be the honest dark cloud fogging up the narrative.
NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Just here checking in on the narrative.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
I know posts like that don’t actually help, but the people on the road can’t hear me when I yell at them for doing shit wrong and I need to get it out of my system.
hateisreality@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah in Florida they might have guns on them, because you have to prove to the state you can safely drive a car but you do not have to prove to the state that you have the mental maturity required to handle responsibility of a firearm concealed on your person. When I lived there that scared the hell out of me
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Hee hee hee ho ho ho ha ha ha
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
these days, it involves yelling
sangeteria@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
I’m kind of a bad driver but I try cuz u gotta yk
Sometimes it’s like a red and there’s someone trying to pull out of some lot and realistically I could’ve given space for them to leave but I wasn’t paying attention so I didn’t 😔😔😔 I always feel so ashamed when I do that
Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
It’s strange, my coworker said the roads were really crazy last night. First light i tunred at, left turn by the way, with green arow, dude ran the red and almost hit me. Is it something in the water?
gigastasio@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I think it’s a barometer for the overall mental health climate. We’re any combination of overworked, broke, tired, we got news organizations trying to keep us mad at each other all the time…and then we get on the road where it’s easy to pretend those other metal boxes aren’t filled with human beings.
I’m not above it. I’ve participated in my fair share of road rage parties. And I don’t have any solutions, just observations and memes. That’s all I got.
marcos@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s deeper than that.
People have been doing this since cars became fast. There’s something in our brains that automatically turns driving into a battle.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 3 weeks ago
I’ve got a solution. It’s called a train.
Malyca@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Better than nothing
ultranaut@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Has it started getting hot out where you are recently? There is always a spike in bad driving when the weather gets nice.
Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“in these hot days is the mad blood stirring” -Romeo and Juliet
NullPointerException@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
An important game maybe? Being Brazilian, I’ve always refrained from driving before big games started, like World Cup or championship finals. People were crazy trying to get home.
stickyprimer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This is every day where I live. It’s madness. Otherwise, the place is paradise. Beautiful area. People are great here. Until you get them into a car. Then they are inattentive, pushy, and unsafe. People die every single year. Kids on bikes get plowed over. It’s insane.
At a 4-way intersection, if I stop around the same time as a car to my right I always yield to them according to the “right hand rule” of right-of-way. But everyone else wants to go only by “who reached the line first” and they want to time it down to the millisecond. And guess what: they always, always determine that they arrived first.
Funny how that works. They’ve changed the rule from “right of way goes to whoever arrived first, defer to car on your right when in doubt” to “it’s always my turn.”
defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Yeah, they put a drug in the water known as DHMO. It drasticly affects your brain and motor functionality.
Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
😳 are you telling me they put water, in the water?
mlg@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yo dawg I heard you like DHMO…
Malyca@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
There’s cocaine in the water so maybe