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amazon can afford to treat its workers with dignity

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Submitted ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨sanitation@lemmy.radio⁩ to ⁨workreform@lemmy.world⁩

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  • hash@slrpnk.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I don’t want 1 hour shipping. I want charming niche shops and fabs where the employees are treated well and able to serve higher quality products, and repair things when they occasionally break.

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    • krisevol@lemmus.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I get the sentiment, but the market as a whole said differently. I doubt Americans could afford that.

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      • humanamerican@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Americans could afford to spend more on goods that are actually durable. And those who couldn’t would buy used items that actually are worthwhile because they were built to last.

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      • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I don’t think it’s people can’t afford it, but you don’t even know if the expensive item is any better.

        I have seen identical products on Amazon sold at quite different prices. The expensive one is just as shit but will cost you more.

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      • greenskye@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Most people could afford it if it were universal. It’s only a luxury when it’s only partially implemented.

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      • Auli@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        We could afford it but wouldn’t be able to purchase on a dime.

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    • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I really just want a choice in shopping that isn’t Amazon, Target, or Walmart.

      Like, there are pretty much no mom and pop shores anymore. There’s an occasional “niche” bigbox, like Dicks or Walmart or Marshalls…but like, for real, there’s nothing left.

      And then, you think you’re going direct to manufacturer, but nope, just a fancy skin on top of Amazon.

      Or worse, twice so far, is order something from eBay and have it delivered in Amazon packaging on an Amazon truck.

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      • cravl@slrpnk.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Walmart is niche?? I feel like I must be misinterpreting. 😅

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      • nucleative@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        All the ma and pa shops were forced into selling on Walmart and Amazon and eBay etc.

        They are equally beat to shit by the platform pushing their prices down, the platform controlling the visibility of their products, and countless rules that if ever broken result in a permanent platform ban, ending the business.

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      • SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Out of curiosity, where do you live? I’ve not shopped at any of these stores in at least a decade.

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    • Peppycito@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      So, like, the 50’s?

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  • OwOarchist@pawb.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Really. Nobody asked for this.

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    • hoch@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I kinda want 1 hour shipping.

      But not at the expense of an underpaid, overworked employee. Bring in the robots.

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      • Trilogy3452@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Would you still want that if there were a variety of shops for most needs nearby? What use cases you had in mind for example?

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  • mech@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Progress!
    25 years ago I could get everything I need within 1 hour by riding the tram or my bicycle to the store.
    Where experts in their field recommended the right product for me, and weren’t aggressively pushed by their employer to upsell.
    (This wasn’t in the US though).
    Today, the only things left in the city are shops for smartphones, sports betting, vapes and barbers where the haircut somehow costs half as much as the mandatory minimum wage with taxes.

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    • Frostbeard@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Living in rural Norway this was never an option. Normal stuff was accessible (and in shops with qualified staff) but anything special was only available if a distributor had it.

      EBay, Etsy, Ali Express and amazon (however much I despise their business practice) makes stuff available. A few examples.

      • Pluck foam is impossible to find outside specialized commercial vendors that want to sell it by the ton or something
      • Small vortex mixer that is not sold by ThermoFischer for an insany jacked up prize. 3mm rubber mat that apparently you get cut to measure in Home Depot according to the craft YT channel cannot be found outside companies selling them as health and safety mats to cushion walking surface… Guess if they are cheap.
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      • RepleteLocum@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Same with IT. Unless i order it I can’t get anything better than drop shipped unmarked second hand cables from media market. But we have 20 clothing shops with the same cheap slave made clothes.

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    • Auli@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      25 years ago no agressive push? I was getting pushed for the insurance 25 years ago.

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  • CptOblivius@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    We used to have 2 day shipping. Now I’m lucky to get stuff the same week with prime. Price decrease? Nope price increase. Amazon sucks.

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    • paper_moon@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      That was my experience. The 2 hour prime stuff when offered was also never stuff you needed, its gonna be paper towels or a hat or something competely stupid, not like a car part that if I could get it here in 2 hours would be really fucking helpful so I could finish the project today!

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  • Suavevillain@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    You can make money without being cruel or awful to your workers. But every mega corp just wakes up and picks the most explotive option humanly possible.

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    • bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      No you can’t. Not in crony capitalism. Any honest business will go under, be bought out, or turn corrupt. If you are a multi millionaire or billionaire, you are absolutely evil.

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    • chiliedogg@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      If a company is publicly traded it’s evil because their business model depends on infinite growth. If you’re an investor in a publicly traded company that nets 1,000% profit year over year, your stock may still be effectively worthless because stability is bad for traders.

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    • Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Untrue. Sometimes theres smaller businesses that dont. Theyre either driven out of the market or bought out.

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  • DupaCycki@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Both are entirely possible. But only one will exist, because Amazon absolutely needs all the money in the world.

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    • elucubra@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      . Just call it 90 minutes. If you use minutes it sounds like less time

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  • JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    We don’t want or need one hour shipping. We want Jeff bezos to divide his net worth equally among all his employees so they can have a comfortable living while working their asses off every day.

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  • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Meh, still not happy about their overpromise on drone delivery years ago. Would much rather have a drone drop something off than someone peeing in a cup in a truck.

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  • HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Honestly I don’t think it can. In USA there is this shit called “law of precedence” and also there is this precedence that means companies are liable in court if they don’t prioritize shareholder profit.

    Any reform that could possibly work must probably start with outlawing stock markets and loans.

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    • Napster153@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      The Longer I live, the more I realise America is just Rapture City from Bioshock with some adjustments.

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      • HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Damn, I must try that game

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    • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      We don’t need to outlaw the stock market or loans, we just need to change the priorities. Right now, the Board of Directors of a public corporation are obligated by law to make the entire corporate mission to serve the stock price. If they don’t, they can be sued by the stock holders, and they will sue. So they don’t have a choice but to keep doing ANYTHING that makes the stock price go up.

      That was decided in Dodge vs Ford , and Shareholder Primacy has been the law ever since. Reforming Walk Street, and regulating profits, would start with limiting Shareholder Primacy.

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      • HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        No shareholders - no primacy. Just saying…

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      • Auli@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        There is no law about that. Or show me the law. And whose law in a multinational corporation.

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  • jeniferariza@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Exactly. I don’t need socks delivered like emergency medicine — I’d rather the worker gets a real lunch break.

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I don’t need socks delivered like emergency medicine

      If socks were delivered like emergency medicine, it would take six weeks to fill the prescription, cost you $600/sock, and you could suddenly be refused service because the head of HHS decided you deserve to die.

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      • mrmisses@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        (in the usa)

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    • aamram@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      how dare you communist! /s

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  • ThunderQueen@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    “But if I dont subjugate an underclass and kill babies then someone else will and they might make money doing it.”

    -literally the problem with gestures broadly

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  • sanbdra@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    One-hour shipping is impressive, but one-hour lunch breaks would be a much better flex.

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  • ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I don’t want one hour lunch, I want to go home a half hour early

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  • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Includes a complementary bottle of piss.

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  • SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    But but Jeffo is a Job Creator! He was just born Better Than You. /s

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  • dragonfucker@lemmy.nz ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Xitter :(

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  • Bloomcole@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Wait weren’t you americans having a whole striking day on May 1?
    What happened, didn’t the regime crumble under your powerful relentless resistance?

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  • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Tbh I don’t really want a 1 hour lunch break. Wtf do I do with an hour? Mostly end up sat around bored for most of the time and not even getting paid for it.

    If it’s a paid break I am more interested.

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    • Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I get a half hour paid break and am hour lunch. You don’t know what you’re missing out on the be so staunchly against it.

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    • agavaa@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It’s interesting how different work environments, laws and rules can be as to influence or assumptions. Where I live lunch breaks are always paid, so I was appalled by your comment. Until I read the last part. Shows how easy it is to take stuff for granted and that we always have to push back.

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    • sobchak@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I’ve had jobs with 1 hour lunch breaks before. Well, actually I don’t even think it was in writing, and we could take a break whenever we wanted for however long we wanted. Sometimes I’d go to a restaurant with co-workers, but mostly just brought food from home and took maybe a 30 minute break and go back to working. I’ve also had a job with a 4.5 day work week which was really convenient (it let me get a lot done before stuff like banks closed). I’ve also had a job with unlimited PTO, but that’s kind of a scam (everyone was afraid they’d get fired if they took PTO).

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      • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        If lunch isn’t paid there is no chance I am working through it

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    • Grass@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Usually here you get 30 min paid 30 min unpaid. I’ve worked jobs where they force you to take the unpaid break but I’ve also worked jobs where its optional and you work and get paid for the time if you want. Or the rarity, the one job where we could work through both, go home early, and get paid for the break we weren’t even at work for.

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  • osanna@lemmy.vg ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    nah, what would jeff bozo do if he didn’t make another billion dollars? We can’t have him GASP LOSING MONEY!

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  • phoenixarise@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I don’t care about one hour shipping. Aren’t those workers overworked as it is?

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  • Fishnoodle@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I want my Amazon packages delivered by the USPS again. They showed up way earlier in the day, and without slave labor

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    • Turret3857@infosec.pub ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      eBay has pretty much the same shit but most of the sellers use USPS.

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  • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    They should be forced to Unionize.

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  • damnedfurry@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Let’s be realistic here. The majority of people don’t care, at all, about how the workforce of the place they buy things from is being treated. By and large, they happily buy things from companies with MUCH worse practices than Amazon without a second thought. If child and slave labor don’t move the needle for them, why would the (comparatively-speaking) paradise of working at Amazon?

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  • SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Now they won’t have time to pee in a bottle, just let fly.

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  • eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It costs more to shop at places other than Amazon, mostly because of shipping.

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    • Randelung@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Amazon forces all of its business partners to have at least the same price or higher on other platforms, so yes, that’s by design to keep you ordering via Amazon.

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  • Tiral@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I would easily trade this. I already get same day shipping, give them the hour for sure.

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  • Erna_muse@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I want my widgets as fast as possible. If they have to poop in bottles so be it.

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  • spicehoarder@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I’d rather they take their time and deliver with care.

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  • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Howamy deliveries can they do on their 1 hour lunch break?!

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