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Submitted ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨fossilesque@mander.xyz⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s hard to explain quantum mechanics when you don’t understand them.

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    • driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s hard to explain quantum mechanics even when you understand them.

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      • bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s a superposition of knowledge and ignorance.

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      • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        There’s an old joke about quantum mechanics professors starting their first lecture with something along the lines of “right now, some of you probably understand quantum mechanics. By the end of the semester, if I did my job right, none of us will understand it.”

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      • RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I thought that was like its thing. It doesn’t really make sense.

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    • RagingRobot@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I understand them! They perform oil changes on the quantum

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      • psx_crab@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They’re so good they fix your car on the quantum level!

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    • dansemacabreingalone@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Thats the joke!

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    • BetaBlake@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No one understands quantum mechanics

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      • hateisreality@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You both understand and don’t understand quantum mechanics at the same time… It’s that simple, that is until such a point at which becomes known as to whether or not you understand or don’t understand quantum physics and then some kind of quantum tunnel collapses?

        No habla English

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      • spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Whoa. Blakeception

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      • Xanthrax@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Then why do I have anti- matter in my trunk?

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    • angrystego@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That was the point, right?

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      • PartyAt15thAndSummit@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s hard to explain jokes when you don’t understand them.

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  • MurrayL@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics.

    If you think you understand quantum mechanics, you don’t understand quantum mechanics.

    Both quotes attributed to Richard Feynman.

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    • Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I can do (some of) the maths, but I definitely can’t explain why any of it is like that, or how it works.

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      • minkymunkey_7_7@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        We all end up looking at cats in boxes pictures on the internet whenever we start to try to understand oh wow this cat is funny.

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      • ranzispa@mander.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I can tell a piece of software to do the maths for ms. Sometimes the results appear to work with reality.

        People complain about LLMs hallucinating, but they have no idea of how many assumptions and just plain “everybody does it this way, I guess it works” are there in scientific research.

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      • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You know what, i keep thinking that maybe, our universe is the only universe that actually functions. Like, if the universe was in some different way, it either wouldn’t work and we would therefore not exist to observe it, or it would be equivalent to this universe, i.e. maybe not exactly equal, but similar in some way, sothat we could form abstractions and arrive at the same universal laws that we have today.

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      • Naz@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I like watching it in action. I don’t know what the hell is going on, but it gives me a strange kind of peace, and if you stare at it long enough, you trick yourself into thinking that it makes some kind of sense.

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    • pcalau12i@lemmygrad.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The “weirdness” of QM all stems from a belief in “value indefiniteness,” which is the idea that particles have no real properties when you are not looking at them, but suddenly acquire real properties when you look. If you believe that, then the question naturally arises, at what point do they acquire real properties precisely? What does “look” even rigorously mean? This issue was first brought up by John Bell in his article “Against ‘Measurement’”. The “answers” to this always fall into one of three categories:

      1. “Look” just means you become aware of it. This devolves into solipsism, because other people are also made up of particles, so they would have no real properties either until you become aware of them.
      2. “Look” is more of a specific physical process that measuring devices do. But this is vague without rigorously and mathematically defining what this physical process is, and if you do define it, then it’s provable that no definition can be consistent with the mathematics of quantum mechanics. If we agree with the premise that “quantum mechanics is correct,” then such an approach is trivially ruled out.
      3. There is no “look,” systems never acquire realm, observable properties at all. But then you run into Wittgenstein’s rule-following problem. If the mathematical model never predicts that a system acquires real properties, then you can never tie it back to any real-world observation.

      The “weirdness” stems from starting with an assumption that is not logically possible to make consistent in the first place and then developing dozens of “interpretations” trying to make it consistent.

      Feynman’s belief in “value indefiniteness” stems from an argument he made here regarding the double-slit argument and how probabilities should add together. I made a video here explaining why his argument does not work, but you can also read John Bell’s paper here because von Neumann made a similar flawed argument and Bell gave a similar rebuttal to it.

      If you just drop off “value indefiniteness” as an assumption, which has no justification for it in the academic literature, then all the quantum woo around quantum mechanics disappears, and the arguments over interpretations like Copenhagen or Many Worlds or QBism simply become superfluous.

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    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What does “understanding” mean in this context?

      I can perfectly fine do the calculations; That’s what “understanding” is, in my opinion. Feynman might be hitting on some metaphysical concept, but then again, what is that metaphysical concept, is it any different from pseudoscience, and do we really need it?

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    • vivalapivo@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Plain stupid

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      • JcbAzPx@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        We’ve learned rather a lot since then.

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  • TheTechnician27@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Cropped so I get the authentic glaucoma experience.

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  • MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.

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    • OpenStars@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      img

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    • locahosr443@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      We know, but it’s getting a bit cringe now

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      • MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.

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      • Chakravanti@monero.town ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Nah.

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    • Artisian@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      good bot

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    • Tottakai@europe.pub ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Such a warrior!

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  • sbv@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    A delightful character arc.

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    • swagmoney@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      is it an arc or was the first response a rage-bait-y ‘quantum mechanics are difficult to explain regardless of gender’

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      • sem@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yes

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  • U7826391786239@piefed.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    its because we’re living in a simulation written by chatgpt

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    • danc4498@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You, maybe. I’m living in a simulation written by Claude. Where my Anthroposse at?!?

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      • redhorsejacket@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Sorry, best I can do is this Anthrobussy.

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      • swade2569@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’m living my best life in a simulation written by a sentient wheel of cheese.

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      • MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You fools! We’ve all been living in a simulation written by Bonsai Buddy!!

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    • slappyfuck@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think the saddest thing is that otherwise reasonable people spend more than a millisecond thinking about whether or not we live in a simulation.

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    • RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Nah, it’s just Brandon Sanderson. Slightly different.

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      • U7826391786239@piefed.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        i never actually read james patterson. is it as dreck as i’m assuming it is?

        sanderson has some good stuff. i was impressed with tress of the emerald sea. way of kings was good, just…..too much

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  • blitzen@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    My grandfather didn’t die in Korea so that people could fight online like this.

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    • BoosBeau@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Oh same, my grandpa didn’t die in Korea either. Twins!

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    • tinfoilhat@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      We used to be a country /s

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    • Chakravanti@monero.town ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That wasn’t a fight.

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      • blitzen@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I was just referring to an old internet joke that was in the same vein as this post.

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  • slappyfuck@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve read this like ten times and I think the joke might be that quantum mechanics are difficult to explain to everyone, of which women are obviously a subset. But maybe I’m doling out too much credit lol

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    • qarbone@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The joke is that quantum mechanics are difficult to understand, so the commenter doubts their ability to properly explain it (to women). The replier assumed it was a dig at women’s intelligence, not a reflection of the original commenter’s intelligence and ability to explain.

      I.e. a stupid person would have difficulty explaining anything to women.

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    • abysmalpoptart@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      To be fair, the original question did not suggest it needed to be easy to explain to men. The only requirement was to be difficult to explain to women. So, technically, this answers the question as written.

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      • sem@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        And we all know that technically correct is the best kind of correct.

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    • IrritableOcelot@beehaw.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No thats definitely the joke.

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  • tinfoilhat@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Every time my wife walks in on me peeing she just stares at my pecker and asks me “so how does it come out?”

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    • I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Imagine your vulva formed a tube around your urethra

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    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Idk i keep asking myself, how would it feel like to have 6 fingers, and are you able to move them all? Idk it just seems weird, but then i remember that i have 5 fingers too and i can move them just fine. So i guess it’s intuitive somehow?

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  • JuliaSuraez@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is peak my phone is fighting for its life energy 😂

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  • Elentirmo@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I pretty sure magic is involved

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  • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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    • PartyAt15thAndSummit@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      JesseWhatTheFuckAreYouTalkingAbout.jpg

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  • Evotech@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Beep

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  • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Anyone else bored as fuck, and wish someone would post another Misoginyst/Misandrist post, so we can read people getting upset?

    I’m actually kind of addicted to watching the hate now. I’m not even Misoginyst/Misandrist myself.

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    • I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      95% of those are just ai generated rage-bait, so just ask ChatGPT to make one for you and you’ll get the same experience.

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    • AsimovIV@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Image

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