Waking up every day and drinking that Hatorade.
If you don’t like anything on the the platform, why stick around?
Submitted 23 hours ago by gedaliyah@lemmy.world to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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Waking up every day and drinking that Hatorade.
If you don’t like anything on the the platform, why stick around?
My ratio is much better than on Reddit. Have I changed or better community? Maybe both
Is this the number of votes someone got or the number someone gave? I want to see the 2nd.
Probably Spez trying to down vote everything here to make Reddit look better lmao
Sometimes I miss old forums where content was brought back up by simply posting within the topic (though that lead to the annoying and incessant “bump? bump? bump?” posts on threads people wouldn’t let die, i guess).
Post voting is understandable as an alternative but it just leads to so much vanity as a result. Sites like this and reddit have so many dorks that are like “my fake internet points… how could you”. If it matters that much to you just shitpost all the time and you’ll get those numbers up
Me too, it’s definitely had a fundamental impact on how people interact with each other online. But also, less page long flamewars is the silver lining I suppose lol
You can sort by new comments to emulate that on Lemmy.
question about something specific (3w ago)
nvm figured it out (3w ago)
what was the solution? Im having the same issue (5m ago)
[MOD] necroing resolved topics is against the TOS. Read the rules before posting. Banned 4 lyf sunnnnn (1m ago)
Where do I find this?
Its lemvotes.org
Thanks
holy - putting the community on their back
Maybe they got confused and thought the downvote/upvote buttons meant “Next post”/“Previous post”
f***g@lemmy.zip
I have no idea who that is - your alt? - but in any case, this is a bit too close for comfort.
BTW, downvoting is valid. And you saying it equals hate says more about you than about the downvoters.
My instance of choice decided to unilaterally and without any warning whatsoever disable downvotes. Just to “try it out”.
I’m still pissed about it to this day.
I mean that google removes any kind of downvotes is one stupid thing, but that people think this makes content “better” is crazy to me.
Now I do understand that in small communities the weight of a super negative account can be quite an issue… But is removing completely any negative feedback the solution ? Really, it’s all we got ?
Also the simple fact that a lot of this community is from Reddit, IMO it’s not okay to disable a feature like that without even voting on it.
So if you think disabling negative feedback fixes an issue, you have the burden to prove or at least explain the reasoning.
I for sure dont think it didn’t make YouTube any less of a cesspool to disable downvotes on it…
Personally being on an instance with no down votes I was pretty similar in thinking. Over time though I’ve realized downvotes are just another avenue for anger, there’s no need for them. It removes significant amounts of stress not worrying about it.
Were here to discuss, chat, and learn new and intriguing things. Up and Down votes don’t matter, block that annoying asshole, tag the contrarian, just worry about yourself and the typical woes of social media subside considerably.
I have no idea who that is
I know exactly who this is, even without the username tip-off. Here’s what their record looked like in September:
I happened across the user when looking into a string of -1’s on brand new posts in a small community. They were all the same person, and that person downvoted 244 times for each upvote.
This on its own is not normal behavior. Combine it with this user’s comments - which are pretty much completely on brand for the average Lemmy user - and it becomes even more bizarre.
Imagine how unbelievably good must be those 19 posts they upvoted
Nothing against downvoting in general, but some people are extremely toxic about it. I don’t get the point.
Please don’t do a witch hunt - it was censored for a reason. Sorry I didn’t do it thoroughly enough.
Please don’t do a witch hunt - it was censored for a reason. Sorry I didn’t do it thoroughly enough.
I’m not. But if this post should evolve into one, that’s on you. Do the sensible thing and remove it.
i concur (approved your p.of.view)
I like Lemmy(*)s, and like to ↑ good stuff and to ↓ at very bad stuff. Yes, of course, there is so much of both in here. And since we have many communities, it is possible for opposite points of view to float upward. Until we have a better system, let’s use what we have.
lemmy.blahaj.zone moment
Ok that was 3 hours ago. What does it say now? Lol
I don’t understand this post at all. Why does it matter what someone upvotes or downvotes? The upvote/downvote means literally nothing at all. Personally, even removed the ability to see the upvote/downvote thing on Lemmy with Mlem.
People place way to much sentiment on the whole up and downvote. That’s why Reddit just became a karmafarming place instead of actual (good) written conversation. Lets not do that with Lemmy. Also, this post could turn out quite bad and gets a unnecessary witch hunt started.
For me, they matter and don’t matter.
Opinion down voting brings useless negativity to Lemmy.
40 upvotes, 60 down votes is totally normal, but seeing a -20 can lead to the removal of comments, which I don’t like… Echo chambers are not what we need.
I’m on an instance that does not support down votes. That means, if one disagrees, they need to use their brain and write a comment.
Huge respect for anyone who does not down vote.
For me, they matter and don’t matter.
Opinion down voting brings useless negativity to Lemmy.
My own experience on Lemmy is that this has been happening more and more. It was not like that when the first Reddit migration happened. However, a year later and that kind of toxicity has started to arise.
It’s one of the reasons why I disabled the visibility of the votes. It also can manipulate on how someone thinks, if it For me, they matter and don’t matter.
Personally, besides the more technology knowledge on Lemmy… I find that Lemmy slowly but steadily adopts more and more Reddit behaviors in terms of user behavior.
I’m on an instance that does not support down votes. That means, if one disagrees, they need to use their brain and write a comment.
Honestly that sounds great. It means people usually have to actually write why they don’t agree.
Why do boos and cheers matter in a crowd?
I do not know, you tell me? Anyway, it seems my particular comment got some people agitated. Did not expect to see people getting agitated over a single random comment and question.
Why do upvotes and downvotes matter? Is this a real question?
Reddit became the karma farming shithole it is because of their engagement algorithms.
Why do upvotes and downvotes matter? Is this a real question?
Yes, it is. Because on Lemmy, the down and upvote does not restrict your account (like how Reddit does it). From my understanding the upvote and downvote on Lemmy is more “upvote, so more users see it and downvote see it gets seen less”.
Which means if one person is trolling it and downvote but majority of users are upvoting it, it doesn’t matter much.
Reddit became the karma farming shithole it is because of their engagement algorithms.
That’s one of the many reasons.
Also, you don’t sound very friendly and since your account is about 5 days old. I’m very skeptical of your comment and behavior.
In my experience down votes basically exist to justify psychotic power mods being able to block people they don’t like.
I assumed that moderators just ban people they do not like or at least remove comments. Blocking people that you do not like is helpful. Keeps your feed and comments section clean and brings less unfriendly behavior. I’m a huge fan of Lemmy’s blocking, it does not prevent the blocked person to comment but it does help the blocker to prevent seeing anything from the blocked person. Brings peace to both, one can simply comment and the other will not see it.
I mean… You have the options to upvote, to down vote and to not click a button. I haven’t seen 742 posts that were so terrible that I had to decide to down vote them.
Down voting other opinions just because they do not match mine brings useless negativity. I don’t think, we need that on Lemmy.
True neutral. Good times!
In my experience? Basically everyone. You’re all a bunch of bastards.
i downvote any ai slop that crosses my feed
Big mood lol
So brave.
Considering how prolific a poster you are I expected higher numbers in every category? Or maybe this username is a new one?
That’s a great username
Ah yes. Penis measuring. But instead of measuring penises we’re measuring something even more arbitrary.
For context: This is the number of votes someone gives others, not the usual Reddit karma comparison.
I’m not sure it’s as useless of a measurement.
If you have a small penis, you’ll disappoint a handful of people
This guy disappointed thousands.
this is given votes, not received
You ratio upvote-downvote is impressive
Personally I factor this in with bans on my communities. I very rarely ban, but I do if I notice people like this, who I dub “downvote trolls”. They don’t participate (or when they do it’s negatively), the just downvote constantly.
Now I’m fine with downvotes, I downvote, I think it’s healthy to say “I don’t like this content”. However if all you do is downvote (especially in a specific community) then I view a ban as a win win. We don’t have to deal with your negativity and obviously you don’t enjoy being here anyway from your voting patterns, so everyone wins.
Content from all communities shows up on my feed, like most others’. Confused mods, possibly like you, seem to get angry when the see people regularly downvote content that they seem to be low-quality, even when those people are doing so without regard of the specific community.
If you don’t want to deal with downvotes in a community, you might be better off moving it to an instance that does not support downvotes.
This isn’t about drive-bys. This is about users who engage in bad faith. Take a look at OP’s pic again.
4650 downvotes.
19 upvotes.
That’s not happenstance.
A bit of selfresponsibility would help both sides tho - if you browse /all, you get /all, so instead of downvoting stuff you are not subscribed to and where you might be missing the context of the community, it would be best for you and the others to just filter the community instead of downvoting every single time.
Personally, I agree (we would never do this in a large community for the record). But yes, there are people who think that they can “kill” a small community with downvotes because they don’t like the topic.
The sad thing is, it’s true. In a community where most posts have under 5 or so votes, one person coming in and systematically downvoting every post will keep people from seeing it who may be interested. If someone doesn’t like a topic, they can block the community, but when they take steps to prevent others from seeing it, that’s toxic. It’s bad for the health of the platform.
Sticking my neck out a bit to share my general views and habits on voting to maybe add some other things to consider.
My general mindset is that each community sets rules on posts and comments, and that ideally only appropriate things should then be posted. So I typically only think to upvote stuff when there’s an even greater than normal amount of effort or thought put into something, or to counteract dogpile downvotes to an appropriate post/comment.
Say I’m browsing a motorcycle community and one user posts a meme about bikes, and someone else poses a story about learning to ride; if my preference is for text posts instead of images I could just upvote the story post and not the meme, but both posts are related to the community and belong there. I could upvote both (and by extension all posts) but then what’s the difference if everything is +1 or +0? If memes are disallowed, I can downvote and report the post to push it down to hopefully keep others from having to see it or encourage them to post their own.
I will also downvote nearly 100% of extremely low-effort pointless comments like “THIS”, “lol”, URL shortened or amp/tracking including links without context etc. A post in another language but marked as English I will also downvote, foreign language communities/instances I just block. I block most meme and shitpost style communities so I’m not looking to vote police what other people enjoy, but doing this stuff in science/news/hobby/etc. communities is inappropriate.
So that’s generally how I behave on Lemmy (and previously on Reddit) - I’m generally more “on the lookout” for bad content, and not looking to boost things that belong here. I don’t rely on voting to maintain my feed, my block lists are also enormous.
A more semi-recent phenomenon is accounts spam posting a bunch of (relevant) links and then self-deleting - I can’t block that account to hide their posts, but as I’m scrolling through my feed I will downvote every single post they made regardless of its quality etc. I’m not going to rehash arguments about whether their behavior is acceptable or not (“they are posting relevant stuff, who cares if they’re acting in bad faith!”) but since there’s generally 2-3 of those accounts per day spam posting junk that’s a lot of downvotes from me to a lot of different communities including some I’m not subscribed to. I’m not going to bother reporting every single post, and until there’s a method to easily directly report a user I’m not going to bother trying that anymore.
Just wanted to put that out there that there might be other legitimate users that have wildly disproportionate voting numbers and that it might not be malicious or careless in nature. I don’t know if Lemmy ignores them like Reddit (supposedly?) does, but I’ve never mass voted from a user’s history. It’s only from comments and posts that were presented to me during my normal browsing.
This
People are much more likely to write a complaint letter than a praising one. Same as it ever was but internet version.
I worked for a company that had a post karma system before reddit ever existed. It was no different then. No matter how much we said that the downvote button is not a dislike button, it changed nothing.
This is the upvotes/downvotes they did on other people’s stuff, or others did on their stuff?
That the account did on other people’s content.
Wow…. They’re miserable.
On other people’s stuff
My upvote to downvote is 10:1 for both posts and comments. Cool tool!
Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 52 minutes ago
One of the reasons I enjoy being on an instance that doesn’t have the concept of downvotes :)
An upvote is an upvote. A downvote is nothing. I love it :D