New cars are great...

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• oleorun@real.lemmy.fan ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I have zero desire to own an Internet-connected car wherein I can’t “own” it without abiding by the rules set forth by the auto manufacturer. BMW recently killed their subscription seat heaters but who knows what Egon Smells is cooking up at Tesla.

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  • watson387@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    In my defense, my 13 year old car died earlier this year and I needed a new car fast. I was completely unaware these systems had gotten as bad as they have until after I bought it.

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    • oleorun@real.lemmy.fan ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I figured we’re not going to have much choice in the future. We’ll be driving cars under End User License Agreements that already send tons and tons of data about us back to the manufacturers.

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    • blazeknave@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There are electric cars built by corporate oligarchs that are not Nazis. More disconcerting you missed that memo.

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    • thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It depends on the manufacturer. My Hyundai infotainment system is great. The only problem I have is that it likes to randomly connect my wife’s phone instead of mine.

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    • thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Hey friend, you are not the one who needs a defense, IMO-- You’re just the end user caught up in the nonsense. Enjoy your new car as best you can, and just make decisions that make the most sense for you.

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  • StandingCat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Egon Smells

    I dislike the guy as much as everyone else but i really wish this stupidist name bullshit would die.

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    • oleorun@real.lemmy.fan ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I respect your opinion and can see where you are coming from.

      However, fuck him.

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    • droans@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Shit like that annoys me as much as “tRump”.

      I despise him, hope to never see him near DC again, and will be happy to see him found guilty. But when you say things like that it just makes you look stupid.

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    • the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Oh yeah? Felon musk! elon smuck! Noel Kums!

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    • RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You sound like fun.

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  • LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    who knows what Egon Smells is cooking up

    Subscription for brakes is on the table

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    • thejml@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I once had a car salesman try to talk me out of ABS because the one on the lot didn’t have it. He literally told me “ABS? You only need that in an emergency!”

      I replied with “I only need headlights at night and seatbelts in an accident but I want those, too.”

      I can totally see them charging extra monthly charges or even a charge every time you activate the ABS.

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    • oleorun@real.lemmy.fan ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Clippy says, “It appears as if you are trying to stop! Do you want help?”

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  • Gingerlegs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Why would anyone buy a Tesla? Fuck that

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    • bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I can’t imagine it’s a Tesla or it wouldn’t say anything about keeping the engine running.

      Either way, fuck all this bullshit. Every day I grow less and less likely to part with my old beast BUT the near doubled and still rising price of fuel will probably force my hand eventually.

      I just went on a touring holiday and fuel was easily the largest component of my budget.

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    • El_illuminacho@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Come to Norway, and you’ll see that overy other car is a Tesla. It’s like a status symbol.

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    • sky@codesink.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Because they’re phenomenal vehicles? And if you live in the US they have the only charging network you can actually rely on.

      I’m driving 600 miles today in mine. No problem.

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  • deleted@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Unfortunately most modern cars are built this way.

    After extensive 6-months search of new car, I concluded that you have to compromise.

    I went with Nissan pathfinder and the software isn’t mature yet. Engine runs rough with misfires when idle. The car assembled with misaligned parts.

    Nissan knows and wouldn’t fix the issue.

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  • BastingChemina@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    He is possible today to buy an electric car that is not connected to internet?

    I will have am to buy a new car soon and unfortunately I don’t see too many options.

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• Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  While I like driving. I hate all the shit modern car manufacturers put in modern cars. Sure they’re more efficient on fuel than older ones. But we should be able to have that without needing the car to be tracked and data collected, we have in the past.

  I feel like all these driver aids are also making people worse at driving. They need to do less, so they pay attention less.

  On top of that, can we ban touchscreens in cars? Physical buttons give physical feed back, you can feel for the button you want and press it without taking your eyes off the road. A touchscreen gives you none of that, and means you have to look away. It’s somewhat mitigated when they put buttons on the steering wheel, but not all buttons can fit in that spot.

  Sure some cars have google assistant, Siri or Alexa. But I actually get so frustrated when trying to tell my phone to navigate somewhere or just simply change the song. And that’s just the phone! The amount of times I have to pull over because it glitches out, or just fails to interpret some or all of what I’ve just said (sure it’s better than voice assistants used to be, but it still breaks regularly) is still too high. The amount of times I regularly tell it to do something, only to find it was still processing the activation voice command, and therefore was initialising the VA screen, and not listening to a word I said after the initial activation is infuriating.

  I love technology, but the technology has no place in cars if it detracts or distracts from the act and safety of actually driving the car.

  /Rant.

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  • HawlSera@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    On top of that, can we ban touchscreens in cars? Physical buttons give physical feed back, you can feel for the button you want and press it without taking your eyes off the road. A touchscreen gives you none of that, and means you have to look away. It’s somewhat mitigated when they put buttons on the steering wheel, but not all buttons can fit in that spot.

    That’s, a damn good point.

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    • dhork@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Android Auto has a good interface for integrating its functions into a car touchscreen, but it’s not controlling anything “important”.

      I agree that all the traditional car controls should be actual knobs and buttons. I rented a car once and they gave me a Tesla, and I couldn’t stand how all the controls were behind its touchscreen. I never felt the need to buy a Tesla, but that one experience turned me off from them entirely.

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  • bleistift2@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    A touchscreen gives you none of that, and means you have to look away

    That’s the reason why I don’t like listening to music on smart phones. Want to skip a track? Fish the phone out of your pocket, turn the screen back on, find the skip button, tap it, wait a second until the garbage app acknowledges that you’ve pressed it, turn off screen, put it back.

    While on my 2000’s phone it’s just pressing one of the physical buttons.

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    • dan@upvote.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Want to skip a track? Fish the phone out of your pocket, turn the screen back on, find the skip button, tap it, wait a second until the garbage app acknowledges that you’ve pressed it, turn off screen, put it back.

      I had a HTC Touch Pro smartphone 15 years ago, and it had an optional headphone cable with buttons on it. You could use the buttons for pause/play, next track, and previous track, without having to get the phone out of your pocket.

      I never really saw something like that again for wired headphones. I did sometimes see headphones with buttons on the headphones themselves, but often they just have play/pause.

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  • redline23@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Bruh, get a 2019+ Miata MX5. It solves 95% of what you are complaining about and it’s fun to drive.

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    • Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Nah, I don’t have the budget for that, and here in Australia even an NB MX5 is over 10K- I’m actually currently looking at a 08’ fiesta XR4 (in other parts of the world that’s the 2L fiesta ST)

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    • thoughtorgan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I know what you’re saying. My '23 Audi a3 has all the things you would want to buttons instead of touch screen only.

      I have huge gripes with bad infotainment systems, only reason I bought this new car was because I have no issues with it. I’m coming from old American cars. All the benefits of physical buttons with tactile feedback while being way more fun to drive.

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  • StopSpazzing@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I agree. Let’s cut the middle man and force 100% automated driving. People can fuck in the back then with less likely to die than with humans with stupid cars without assistance driver aids. Driving is extremely dangerous and honestly I trust ai over other people (in USA).

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    • Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Nah, I don’t know if AI will ever be 100% perfect, and I don’t want to trust it. Ai is human built, and it’s my personal belief that humans aren’t perfect, so AI will therefore never be perfect.

      Also, you will always want a qualified driver to be able to take over should some part of the car sensor systems fail.

      Sensors, unlike humans have a tendency to fail quickly, sometimes instantly, and even AI and autopilot can behave erratically if it gets bad or false inputs from bad sensors.

      It’s like in a airliner, autopilot even though at this point is pretty much practically capable of flying a plane completely from takeoff to landing, there will always be at least pilots on duty in the cockpit in order to account for unforseen circumstances and failures, even if they never actually fly the plane normally.

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• Mr_Buscemi@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Sometimes the updates aren’t even worth it.

  Toyota said my prius needed an update so I installed the app for it. All the update did was remove fucking features that were usable in the car. Used to have the option to use Pandora from the console but it got removed randomly by an update.

  Then they installed an Alexa search page that glitches my console if I every select it.

  Basically I’m saying FUCK TOYOTA

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  • 50MYT@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    For bonus anger.

    Amazon pays Toyota about $1 per vehicle that Alexa is installed on.

    So you made Toyota an extra dollar for your pain.

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  • njordomir@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    My 2015 Subaru Impreza has a shitty entertainment system. At least it still connects via BT, but they removed the screen mirroring really early on and the app had ~1 star on Google Play for a long time (probably still does). Thankfully it’s not integrated with the features of the car in any meaningful way. I could swap it for any other head unit. No sure how that will work with modern cars where the AC, lane departure, and everything else goes to the stereo.

    The real issue, as you point out, is there is nothing to force them to continue supporting it or maintain its features once us poor suckers have bought it.

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    • clegko@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If it’s anything like my MIL’s 17’ Forester, you flat can’t replace the headunit without disabling a lot of car features. I believe the land departure/EyeSight still works, though.

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  • creditCrazy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Granted not a software update but my dad’s Cadillac got recalled once and all they did was make the ceiling buttons harder to read that was the one time he ever obayed a recall

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    • Shush@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      ceiling buttons harder to read

      How?! And also, why?! I don’t get it. What was the point of doing this?

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  • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Sounds like getting the 2016 model of Prius was a good call on my part. Of course, it was 2019 when I did it and that model wasn’t substantially different, but that sounds awful.

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    • Mr_Buscemi@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah 2017 model here :/

      Entune is the worst Toyota dashboard ever. It’ll randomly crash and reload the dashboard while driving sometimes. (once or twice every 3 months)

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  • blazeknave@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Factory reset help?

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• cyborganism@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I really REALLY hope someone at some point starts a gasoline to electric car conversion company at some point.

  I love my car because it has just the right amount of technology: Bluetooth connectivity for calls and music. That’s it. That’s all I need.

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  • starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yup. Unfortunately, since most people seem to prefer the dystopian futuretech, all auto manufacturers are going to employ it. Just like with cell phones. The last phone I know of with 16:9 aspect ratio and no blighted hole punch or notch was in 2018. There’s a market full of us luddites who prefer the old ways, but we’re invisible to manufacturers because it’s more profitable to make something that more people want to buy, and we’re forced to buy that garbage as well anyway.

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    • krey@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Don’t worry. You know those car nuts who put 20 spoilers on their cars and mod the engine etc… There will be a point where most of them do it with the futuretech cars and it will be in their way, which means they will circumvent it and ordinary people will be able to hire them to do it to their cars too. It was the same wis “chip tuning”.

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    • cyborganism@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You forgot about the programmed obsolescence.

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    • gullible@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There are some positives and negatives to the desire for old form factors. Secondhand phones from 2018 cost much less than new ones but lack some of the new features like… I can’t think of any.

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  • Acernum@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There was some discussion on a post about gas to electric cars lemmy.world/post/5901284

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  • RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There are likely a lot of complexities here.

    Battery tech will need to improve greatly and be minimalized. EV batteries are currently massive, heavy, and generally engineered as long, wide, flat modules to be installed beneath the floor so they keep the center of gravity low and the vehicle balanced. That’s not really possible in an ICE vehicle with all the frame molding around existing exhaust and drivetrain components, and you most likely can’t just have some sort of modular battery and motor unit that you just drop into the engine bay, as that would put a ton (literally) of additional weight and mess with the balance.

    The draintrain components may need to be replaced or the motor outputs modulated to prevent the torque from ripping it apart.

    Power steering and brakes will need to converted to electric assist. AC and heat would need to converted to electric.

    Older cars (early 00’s and older) with cable throttles will need to be retrofitted with drive-by-wire, or use some sort of adapter module that connects the cable and converts it to digital inputs. Same with brakes.

    All of the electronics (lights, wipers, windows, locks, radio, etc.) will need to be rewired since there’s no longer an alternator.

    Probably will need upgraded suspension and brakes to handle the extra weight.

    There’s probably a lot more I’m not thinking about or not even aware of. Unfortunately, I don’t think it’s going to happen outside of rich enthusiast circles.

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    • cyborganism@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Aaawwww Man. I hate to admit it but you’re absolutely right. It’s so much work it might not even be worth it.

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    • kamenlady@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Spaßbremse!

      /s

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  • BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    the only tech i need in my car is an aux port. i will forever buy used cars from before 2010 but after around 2004ish?

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  • atrielienz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Depends on what kind of car you have. I know for a fact there is a company doing this with classic mini coopers.

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  • Mothra@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t even use BT in mine and don’t use the music system either. I stick to my phone. I just hope by the time I need to switch cars, I’ll be able to jailbreak it without bricking.

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  • CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I dont know the details, but Ive heard of companies that do this, or kits that can be used for it, existing, though I can only imagine that changing a car that one’s business has not manufactured and was never designed for such a conversion must take a lot of manual work, which would be expensive before even considering things like the cost of batteries.

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    • IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Power train conversion is reasonably simple. Just throw combustion engine and transmission box away, make brackets for electric motors and attach them directly to the wheels (with axles if necessary). Conversion of controls is (I assume) is also somewhat simple since existing brake system and power steering is quite straightforward to run with electric motors since you just need something which can run a belt drive and gas pedal is most likely already electric. For all the electronics you have plenty of space in where the engine used to be.

      But. And there’s a pretty big but. Batteries are pretty big and pretty heavy. On any given combustion engine car there’s just no room for them (at least if you’re after a conversion with similar range/power than a readily built electric car). And even if you cut the floor panel off and modify it to accomodate battery pack (or whatever the route you choose might be) it’ll heavily affect weight distribution, frame stability and many other things, suspension included. Model S battery is apparently 540kg, so if you’ll do a conversion to your corolla you might save around 150kg of weight by removing old engine+transmission but you’d still have additional 300kg of mass to deal with.

      For a van which is designed to haul heavy loads from the start it might be pretty simple to just raise floor of the cargo space a bit but for a common sedan that’s a whole another thing.

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    • lightnsfw@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Swapping an engine is relatively easy if you know what you’re doing… If these kits can connect the electric motor to the existing drive train it wouldn’t be too bad. Messing around with batteries big enough for an electric vehicle can be really dangerous though.

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• conditional_soup@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I LOVE HAVING CAR DEPENDENCY. I LOVE PAYING FOR LESS EFFICIENT TRANSPORT AND ALL OF MY OWN MAINTENANCE AND FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF HAVING MY DATA SOLD. I SPEND EVERY MOMENT NOT DRIVING WISHING I COULD BE BEHIND THE WHEEL AND DOING NOTHING ELSE BUT FOCUSING ON DRIVING WHILE ON MY WAY TO [CONSUME] AND MAKE DATA FOR [BRAND]. PLEASE, NO PUBLIC TRANSIT, I LIKE MY FREEDOM THANKS.

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  • anarchy79@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Personally, as a non-car owning person, I love how I have to stick to the narrow patch of walkway next to roads where I get to inhale exhaust fumes whether I like it or not, have to stop and yield to oncoming traffic when looking to cross the road, and leave my life and personal safety in the hands of people I don’t know and pray they pay attention and don’t hit me.

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    • conditional_soup@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I hate it as a driver. I would love to walk or bike more, but I’m far enough from anywhere I want to go that it doesn’t make any practical sense to. I strongly dislike driving everywhere, and I wish our pedestrian and bike infrastructure (and public transit) didn’t suck so bad. I wouldn’t mind using the bicycle gutter, if I had one, but I’d be very nervous to let my kids use it, because I don’t trust the magic paint strip.

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    • skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I drive a hybrid in rural areas, and I try to always flip the car into electric only mode when I see a cyclist coming up so they don’t have to inhale my tailpipe. I’m sure it isn’t much in the grand scheme, but I hope they at least breathe a little better.

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  • DrMango@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Imagine being so braindead that “going for a drive” is a legitimate form of entertainment that you get excited about.

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    • johnlsullivan2@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I get the sentiment but have you ever driven a fun car on a beautiful night? Driving a topless Jeep through the twisty highway in the redwoods of Northern California or a Camaro through the wide open Nevada desert? High schoolers driving their bro dozer around town in circles, yeah, I get that.

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• andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You can’t download a car, but you sure can brick it.

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  • AtariDump@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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• Showroom7561@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  That’s not even the tip of the iceberg.

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  • TheLobotomist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That was a very scary and dystopian read, but thank you!

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  • Shush@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Honestly, I figured that they collected data. But I didn’t think the extent of it would be stuff like my sex life and genetic data. How the hell do those work?

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  • Mothra@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Holy cow.

    And nobody can jailbreak and disable these “features”?

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• user224@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  “Please do not turn off the engine during installation”

  Tell that to my empty gas tank.

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  • SmashingSquid@notyour.rodeo ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That’s the most ridiculous part to me. Why isn’t this able to continue off the car battery? It should be do not disconnect car battery if anything. I hope there’s some sort of fail safe to prevent it from bricking that doesn’t involve a factory reset or dealer visit.

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  • Rand0mA@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Haha now reinstall FordOS

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  • bstix@feddit.dk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Well, if it’s a new car, it might not use any battery from idling anyway. Still a stupid requirement though.

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• sigswitch@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m kind of surprised that car technology is so awful. How the fuck am I paying $35k for a car and they’re still like “lets run the UI off a potato via the least responsive touch screen possible”? At some point I’d rather they just gave up on providing a UX themselves and just ran everything through Android Auto.

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• Gabu@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  New cars are great a cancer on society

  There, FTFY

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• olutukko@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m waiting for the day we have linux cars

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• ediculous@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I absolutely cannot stand Subaru’s infotainment system. It’s actually the primary reason I’ll never get another one.

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• MashedTech@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  They gotta get better collection systems of that sweet sweet sex you’re having in your car

  youtu.be/OYcmF9IAJbU?si=gS1v5LQQskrbpIdj

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• jabathekek@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Where the FOSS cars at?

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• yoz@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Which car manufacturer ? So that I can avoid it.

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• DeathWearsANecktie@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  People keep saying new cars are shit but nobody wants to trade me their new car for my 2004 Toyota 😄

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• Wogi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I love my Subaru. But the infotainment system is awful. It’s slow and unresponsive, it frequently takes a few minutes to warm up to even be usable, which means usually when you can use it you’re already moving. It’s absolutely impossible to do anything outside of the touch screen.

  The car is great, but that computer is a piece of crap

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• pixelscience@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Sometimes you can just tell something sucks without even using it just from the fonts and button designs… what car is this?

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• Novman@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Why a car have to be connected to internet?

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• sentinelthesalty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  And this is why the end user should be able to jaikbreak cars. Has anyone made an open source software for cars anyways?

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• CrowAirbrush@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Oh man, i’ve never been able to get over the: “i really want to play a game now that i have 30 minutes to spare and some energy left” ah fuck, 60gb update…fine i’m off to bed then.

  Can’t imagine what i would do if a car update would come with the worst possible timing like having to take your partner to the hospital for an emergency.

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• brlemworld@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Why the fuck would the engine be on?

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• state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  My car is the same. I want to install a map update in my Ford, but it’s 22GB and according to the manual it’ll take 1-2 hours.

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• not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Those shiny reflective screens are terrible.

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• HollandJim@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This is so backwards from my ID.3. When I get an OTA update, we get a message and have to deliberately update it, but it wont start until we’re out of the car and it’s locked.

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• Smacks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I 100% refuse to buy a car unless there’s a jailbrake option. I don’t want to get an update while I’m trying to get to work

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• Ghyste@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You’re lucky that can be done remotely now and no longer requires a trip to the dealership.

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• RealFknNito@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Nah, I’m jailbreaking my car if I get one that does this shit. I forced Windows to fuck off with their updates and I damn sure can tell my car manufacturer the same.

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• Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  And this entire post is why i will never own a car in my life, miserable pieces of junk that you pay thousands and thousands for so they can spy on you and make your life worse.

  Mopeds are just better in every way that matters, if i need to travel further than that i’ll take the train.

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• erlend@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This might be “unpopular opinion” territory - but I kinda like that my car is better now than it was when I bought it. 🙃

  (Due to over the air updates.)

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