Submitted 3 weeks ago by inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
Same price, less storage. Shrinkflation at its finest.
Sony plans to release a new PS5 Slim All-Digital console with an 825GB SSD, reducing storage from the previous 1TB to optimize production costs amid rising expenses. The PS5 Slim Standard with a disc drive will retain the 1TB SSD, and the updated model is expected to launch in Europe first.
Digital only with reduced space? What’s the worst that could happen? 🤔
“Buy a bigger SSD!”
I guess just be glad they’re not pulling a Microsoft where you’d have to buy a propriety NVMe drive.
You referring to the expansion drives that slot in the back and are hotswappable? Most expensive storage medium I’ve ever bought. Problem was, there was no alternative… Internal storage ignored, ofc
Are you able to expand the PS5’s storage with just a normal USB 3.0 drive?
How many games are y’all installing at once? 825GB is plenty. You can have three 200GB games installed, plus 3 or 4 AAA games with more reasonable disk usage.
Not the freaking point but okay.
Those 200gb games take a while to download, even on a gigabit internet connection.
825GB is the raw space, not usable space.
You lose some to formatting and file structure, you lose more to system reserved space for updates and what not.
Out of the box, a 1 TB PS5 has 848 GB available.
So if you’re starting with 825 GB that means you’re likely to only have, what? 700 GB free? Less?
Some games push 100 GB, so max of 7 of those not counting DLC and what not?
I have a four TB SSD installed in my PS5 and I wish I had more.
I like to play what I want without waiting for a download.
That’s the way I play. Like 2-4 games max on my storage. Each one is a different genre, I play it until I finish then uninstall and move on to next game.
You can fit maybe 5 games at 100 GBs a piece (which is pretty standard for PS5) on an 825 GB drive, not to mention that you have to leave up to 100 GB overhead just to update certain games plus room for the OS. If you have a family then you literally have a situation like mine where I have 1 game installed to the PS5 and Warzone, Fortnite, Roblox, Rocket League, Fall Guys, and Marvel Rivals take up the rest of the console storage space
Sound more like one game if you are a CoD player.
Oh no, the SSD is soldered to the motherboard.
The SSD has been soldered to the motherboard on previous models as well. The nvme slot is for adding a second SSD, it’s not populated from the factory
No, the PS5 has a standard expansion slot.
its weird cause the UHD player is probably what i use the most on my PS5
Fucking shrinkflation coming to electronics? Damn.
Just consoles! You can still prowl ebay for computer parts and build something basically just as good for like 200 bucks.
As good as PS5 for $200? Yeah, no.
I thought most equivelant gpus to the ps5 start around $200 on their own.
PlayStation only went downwards since the PlayStation 3 change my mind
All my homies hate having to pay for online services
Yep. That’s exactly when I stopped buying’em.
Microsoft proved to everyone that customers were willing to lower their standards further, so Sony and Nintendo followed suit.
Remember kids, it’s not about keeping the lights on. It’s about maximizing profit.
Can’t; you are objectively correct.
PS3 was dope I loved it, but I had a huge problem when they removed the Other OS option.
I loved the PS3 too, but I’m looking at it now in hindsight and recognizing all of its flaws.
I think most of my enjoyment for the PS3 came from “what could be,” and then by the time it came I was older and had many other things going on in my life. To be honest, it never really came. The PS3 was not the successor the PS2 deserved.
I got the YLOD each time the system would engage the GPU. you’re saying it went downward? That’s pretty harsh.
Although I don’t hate my PS5 (it’s the only console i still use), I do think the launch PS3 was peak Playstation. Yeah, it did have a “Homer car” vibe to it by including everything and the kitchen sink, but it was truly amazing.
Is 825GB a common size? Is there any logic to where that being picked came from?
Because it is cheaper to manufacture.
They buy storage with 12 channels, 512Gib Nand Chip per channel. This means each SSD has 512Gibx12ch=768 GiB of storage, or 825 GB.
Key:
Gib = gibibit, giga/binary/bit, 1024⁴ bits
GiB = gibibyte, 1024⁴ x 8 bits
GB = gigabyte, giga/(decimal)/byte, 1000⁴ x 8 bits
Shareholder value vs executive bonus calculation.
Nope.
512+256=768, 768+64=832… minus 7 for system data and general overhead maybe? That’s my best guess, but that’s a really odd size.
Assuming it’s 768GiB, then it would be 824.6GB, not 832GB.
Maybe some overprovisioning for the SSD. But to be honest, I’m not sure
Fuck Sony for making Europe pay for America’s stupidy. And Microsoft, I think they’re doing it too.
I mean it honestly looks more like a corporation using US tariffs for cover than being directly affecting it like the article was speculating.
I mean we’ll have a better idea when the price is released in the US markets since current US prices for PS 5s have already increased for the US.
America’s stupidity doesn’t account for all of it. Sony would love to get more PS5s in homes at lower entry prices if they could.
I’m waiting for PS1 but priced like PS5 and called remaster.
🤔 The PS5 is 5 years old. I’ll pass.
So pretty much 2-3 games like baldurs gate, helldivers, GTA V after accounting for the OS, with no ability for physical games. Idk who would buy this with that knowledge… it makes the disc version the only viable choice for a bit more coin
It’s actually really easy to add an nvme drive. That’s more costs though, obv
No disrespect I feel like someone purchasing a console is unwilling to crack hardware open. But they certainly can save some money if they do
Is it currently possible to background transfer a game install from external HDD to SSD while playing a game? As far as I recall the PS5 did not allow that early into the system’s launch.
Not to simp for Sony, but if it is possible then I don’t think NVMe disk space is a massive issue. The system at least has a 10gbps usb-c port for external drive transfer.
Unless you want to manually transfer every game ahead of when you want to play it, it is very much a massive issue to play games designed with nvme storage in mind on an SSD, let alone an HDD.
And that is assuming it will even launch.
And even the manual shuffling becomes a problem as the consoles tend to be very picky about how much space you have and how much buffer they want before they’ll do an FS operation. Ask any of us who had a lot of games installed on the PS4…
the ps5 is the console I used the least. And I bought the ps3 in the middle of the ps4’s generation.
dinckelman@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
What the fuck are we even doing at this point, as a society?
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Dealing with knock on effects of a vindictive rapist trying to dismantle the global economy because he lost a popularity contest. Possibly at the behest of his russian handlers who want to fill the power gap.
And its gonna get a whole lot worse.
Zorque@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
He’s a symptom more than a cause. This isn’t a recent development, just a recent escalation.
nico198X@piefed.europe.pub 3 weeks ago
the snake is eating its tail. but ppl won't rise up until they are literally dying.
so do what you can in your own life to mitigate these impacts on you and yours.
cmbabul@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This is really insightful and very good advice
It fucking sucks how much this point illustrates the reality of this time. But it’s upsettingly accurate
omarfw@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s post-capitalism. Capitalism was only ever capable of bringing about merit based class mobility temporarily before the sociopaths all trickled to the top over the decades and then and shut that shit down. Neo-feudalism is the inevitable result, and that will eventually be dismantled by another working class revolution.
All economies have lifespans.
Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
TBH I’d just say were seeing capitalism approach its final inevitable form.
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The hard times are coming, so we’ll have to be hardened.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This is just classic shrinkflation. Your bottle of shampoo comes in 32 ounces, they shrink it to 24 ounces without changing the price, then later they come out with 32 ounce bottles again with a higher price and a sticker that says, “Now with 33% more!” to make it seem like they’re giving you so much shampoo; and then the cycle repeats.
slate@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
No, it’s not. Consoles (and technology in general) historically trend cheaper over time. Demand lowers, manufacturing cost lowers, newer tech releases, costs adjust to accommodate.
It’s very abnormal that the current gen of consoles has not only not gotten cheaper yet, but have actually raised in price. Like, very very abnormal.
Shrinkflation is a real thing, but historically it has nothing to do with consoles.
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Source: arstechnica.com/…/are-the-ps4-and-xbox-one-really…
frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Transistors aren’t getting cheaper, and the industry doesn’t know how to deal with that. They’re still in the mindset that Moore’s Law has continued and will continue.
Then some clown convinced a bunch of people that he should be in charge of things, and he thought tariffs were a valid economic tool.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I have a theory.
None of this is real. It’s a simulation thats been abandoned. And now, all the errors are compounding.
stoy@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Stagnation ahead of a major societal shift?
humanoidchaos@lemmy.cif.su 2 weeks ago
Making rich people richer at the expense of our dignity.