Submitted 1 day ago by tonytins@pawb.social to games@lemmy.world
https://www.them.us/story/itch-io-steam-adult-video-game-ban-delisting-lgbtq
I expected potentially shitty management of next gen Valve employees to ruin Steam, not this.
Worst case scenario if it get worse, what will the alternatives be in the future? Since most stores use these processors, would a store need to open up without them, or can the current ones decided to stop using them? I assume Steam won’t pull out even if they could, since it sounds like financial suicide when most of the customers are there for convenience.
A few days ago there were many here saying the idea of a slippery slope to banning LGBTQ+ games was nonsensical.
Yet, here we are.
It always starts with “Protect the children!!”
SHOCKER.
Fucking fundamentalists
It starts with porn, and ends with anti-church content. Everything in between must go.
Haha, it doesn’t end there it just keeps going.
No violence!
I have zero faith this campaign will stop until we’re back in the stone age.
Future headline:
“Game vendors pressured to stop selling games where women are allowed to vote or express an opinion that doesn’t reflect her husband’s”
Sounds like Valve should set up a payment processing system.
At least in the US, it’s full of regulatory red tape that was designed to pull up the ladder behind the current large payment processors.
Even Musk and his ample bribe money, under the most corrupt administration in decades, hasn’t managed to get full approval for his “X Twitter Money” payment service.
Steam can 100% enter any market they want, especially something entirely digital like online payment processing. That’s pretty closely related to what they do already. They just have to have a reason to want to do so.
Steam makes a reported $3.5 million per employee from commissions alone. Possibly as much at $19 million per head across the board. To put that into perspective, Facebook, one of the most profitable companies on the planet, averages a net income of $780,000 per employee, and Apple at $476,000 per employee.
pcgamer.com/…/valves-reported-profit-per-head-fro…
Steam may not be as large as those companies, but they’re so effectively streamlined. So much of their profits come from existing systems that only need minimal maintenance as opposed to needing to constantly develop new products. It is a well-oiled money printing machine at this point. And nothing they do is based on any sort of speculation bubble threatening to burst at any point.
Couldn’t they just start accepting ACH to get around the payment processors? Or is that overly complicated?
I buy my games using steam wallet.
Clickbait doesn’t explain properly - the reason queer games were removed from Itch.io is because (and this is another issue) they were one of many who labeled anything LGBTQ+ as NSFW or adult-themed. They were still banning under 18s from learning and experiencing diverse life. Romance ≠ sexuality ≠ identity but slow people don’t understand that.
A lot of devs also label their game LGBTQ because THEY the DEV are gay trans or what have you while their game has NOTHING to do with it.
Iv played so many little platformer or rougelite games that have literally zero LGBTQ themes. But are labeled LGBTQ and nsfw purely because the devs like to misuse tags.
It’s a huge fucking pet peeve of mine.
TAG YER SHIT RIGHT GOD DAMN IT.
Yeah, somehow I doubt this is just an unfortunate unintended consequence.
While I agree, a lot of these banning campaigns do try to connect LGBTQ+ as NSFW to justify their actions.
I keep people repeating this, but where are you getting this information from? I’ve never seen this claim before, and I’ve not noticed this happening when I’ve used itch in the past either?
they were one of many media hosters who labeled anything LGBTQ+ as NSFW.
Source? This doesn’t appear to be correct.
They understand. They don’t care.
So they are going to ban Baldurs Gate 3?
100% they would try to ban anything with any sort of romance in it if they could.
Collective Shout is a group of anti-porn nutjobs hiding behind a feminist facade.
Surprisingly, not American, the Australians decided to join the puritanical bullshit this time.
18+ might be a legislative requirement in some countries too, for example Russia required it since 2013, not sure if there are more countries that have the same law, but I’m sure Russia isn’t alone in their backward ways.
Is there any way to see a list of whats been removed from both platforms? I know a lot of archiving is going on for Itch, but is there any site that’s popped up to show what’s been removed on both platforms?
It was only a matter of time. Well now what are we waiting for ? Let’s go after the easy target, CollectiveShout & end them & then use the example to “convince” payment processors to back off while simultaneously constructing alternatives
The Article dosn’t bring up anything the Austraians have done SO FAR to remove LGBTQI+ content from steam. Is there a creditable source for that?
If I can’t have my lgbtq+ and nsfw games, then I don’t need my non-lgbtq+ and nsfw games. Go ahead and play this game and fuck around and find out. I’ll sell all of my consoles real quick. Fuck this mess.
Anyone got one of them antitrust lawsuits?
There’s a reason why Christ was crucified and it wasn’t for your sins. Christianity is a cult. Time to enter the 21st century people. Even the ancient Romans knew this.
Uhh, I don’t think ancient roman is a good example, unless barbarism, constant expansionism, slavery and patriarchy is your thing, and I’m skipping over a lot of other fucked up shit like forced sex based on status quo. While their culture was indeed rich, they were far from being an example country.
Oh, I have some pretty advanced sins
Somehow, they’re forgetting that sex sells like hot cakes. They’re also not passing up the opportunity to marginalize minorities even further!
Well if we wanted to pressure payment processors. We need only stop using them for about a month. Just use only cash.
Most websites don’t take cash, though.
Just don’t use any websites/apps to buy/pay for things unless absolutely necessary.
I’m not a tech bro saying this, never used it before myself, but crypto seems like a sensible solution to that. Which is good cuz that means they can actually operate as currencies instead of investments
Well, can you survive 1 month without buying anything online?
ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 8 hours ago
And here we go… the inevitable conclusion.