First-party Switch 2 games—including re-releases—all run either $70 or $80

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• bungle_in_the_jungle@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Nope. That’ll be a pass from me Nintendo.

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  • Deceptichum@quokk.au ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Oh you’re going to subscribe to Nintendo Pass for $12.99 a month?

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  • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ll wait for an emulator

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    • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Honestly, I won’t bother. I only tried a few Switch games on emulator out of curiosity, and never played long. They don’t make anything interesting enough for me to want. I don’t get why people feel the need for Nintendo.

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• Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I am not in the market for a conope (my last one was the Sega Mega Drive which was abandoned after we got a Pentium 1 PC and dialup), but I “love” Nintendo’s pricing policy.

  It’s almost as if they are taking the piss and want to what extent their fans are gluttons for punishment.

  One possible complicating factor for those games? While they’re physical releases, they use Nintendo’s new Game-Key Card format, which attempts to split the difference between true physical copies of a game and download codes. Each cartridge includes a key for the game, but no actual game content—the game itself is downloaded to your system at first launch. But despite holding no game content, the key card must be inserted each time you launch the game, just like any other physical cartridge.

  This is full on corporate regressiveness.

  Nintendo will also use some Switch 2 Edition upgrades as a carrot to entice people to the more expensive $50-per-year tier of the Nintendo Switch Online service. The company has already announced that the upgrade packs for Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom will be offered for free to Nintendo Switch Online + Expansion Pack subscribers. The list of extra benefits for that service now includes additional emulated consoles (Game Boy, Game Boy Advance, Nintendo 64, and now Gamecube) and paid DLC for both Animal Crossing: New Horizons and Mario Kart 8.

  Wait so you have to subscribe to get access to emulators (which are all open source Inak assuming)?

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  • wuzzlewoggle@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The key card thing is seriously infuriating, both from a consumer standpoint and from an archivists standpoint.

    Basically you own a game cartridge, but as soon as Nintendo shuts down their servers for whatever reason it becomes a useless piece of plastic. They really don’t want us to own anything anymore.

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  • Kelly@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Their emulators have always been proprietary. The waters were a little muddied by the NES/SNES Classic consoles using a Linux OS but the emulators were their own code.

    Their FOSS code is made available when required and is published here:

    support.nintendo.com/jp/oss/index.html

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    • Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I see. I am surprised they didn’t simply take existing open source code and go with that.

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  • Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So when Nintendo servers shut down, that’s it.

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  • Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Oh wow, that cartridge thing is actually just the worst of both worlds. I’m similar to you, my last console was a Mega Drive but I did get a Switch for my wife and played a couple of games on it which was fun. Not really keen on giving Nintendo more money though.

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  • whodrankarnoldpalmer@startrek.website ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So does this kill used game sales?

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    • XiberKernel@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think it kills game leaks before the street date. Even if the data isn’t in the carriage (which is stupid), you would still be able to sell the cartage assuming the online service is still active.

      Sucks for game preservation though. I’m personally hoping there’s some flaw in the gen 1 hardware that can be exploited for archive purchases.

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    • Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I am assuming you can re-sell the “Game Key”.

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• ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I pray it faces record-breaking piracy.

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  • ryathal@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It probably will. Given the modest spec bump and the high even for Nintendo hostility to switch emulation, it’s probably trivial to support switch 2 as well.

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  • arakhis_@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I too wonder if there would be communities, focused on playing these xbox360 era games on pc - after this

    Anyone got links further educational reading on this matter?

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• Viri4thus@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Fuck Nintendo.

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• OtterFool@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Always loved Nintendo, but this will be a hard pass from me.

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• Elevator7009@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I love having my decision not to buy a Nintendo Switch and stick to PC games validated.

  Feel bad for all the Nintendo fans though, I get how you can fall in love with a franchise they make and want their stuff only to have “except it costs a ton” stuck on, so you’ll have to skip for financial reasons and feel unhappy. It’s a lot harder to abstain from something you actually care about and want, than something you are maybe mildly interested in.

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  • samus12345@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No Zelda or Mario will hurt. But Nintendo’s decided I’m just too poor to be worthy of playing their games any more.

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    • thermal_shock@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There’s a hundred different versions that you can play already with emulators and on an old switch. Wait till the new one is emulated

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  • SuperSpecialNickname@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s most difficult for me since I want to play metroid prime 4, especially after hearing the music. But I don’t want to pay 90 euro for base game. That’s incredibly ridiculous

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    • CallateCoyote@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m just going to get the Switch version and be perfectly happy with the visuals being slightly less good and using gyro joycon aim over joycon mouse.

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• _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I look forward to playing these for free in a year or two when an emulator that works on the Steam Deck is released.

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  • NastyNative@mander.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    4 real when Zelda was released on the switch is ran at like 1080p 30 fps. The emulator version was 4k @ 60 fps…

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  • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The reason the switch 1 was emulated so fast was a hardware vulnerability on nvidia’s part. Presumably we won’t see that again.

    Also: While switch games DO run better on a steam deck, they don’t run great. And I think estimates put the switch 2 at closer to a PS4 than PS3 in terms of power? But even PS3/360 games don’t run gerat on a Steam Deck.

    Not to mention nintendo’s lawyers putting the fear of mario into the emulation community.

    So in a few years? I could see MAYBE some proof of concepts. But I doubt we’ll actually be able to properly emulate switch 2 games until at least 2030.

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    • _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Well, then I look forward to playing games for this retro console for free in six years when an emulator drops for the Steam Deck 2.

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• Sepix@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I was REALLY looking forward to the 2 … this leaves such a sour aftertaste, it’s really unpleasant.

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• daggermoon@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  SteamDeck it is.

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• Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Can’t wait to wait 2 years and then pirate it.

  But besides that; are there any good PC kart racers?

  (Emphasis on “good”, because I already know about Super Tux Kart, used to play it a lot more than 10 years ago, but today it feels very… Clunky and dated).

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  • ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I hear very good things about Sonic All-Stars Racing Transformed, and there’s a new one coming.

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    • SolarPunker@slrpnk.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      and there’s a new one coming

      Wut OoO really?

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    • Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Hmm… I’ve heard a few things about Sonic All-Stars too. Guess I should give it a shot.

      Would be cool if Crash Nitro Kart isn’t still a PlayStation exclusive…

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  • xtools@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    super tux cart on linux is free and open source

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  • SolarPunker@slrpnk.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Sonic Racing Transformed still the best

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  • tobz619@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Sonic and Sega All Stars Transformed is top

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  • Apeman42@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You probably want a dedicated game, but I have a lot of fun with Dragon Kart in Yakuza: Like a Dragon.

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• SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The only game I want to play is that new Donkey Kong game. Paying €520 for playing just one game is ridiculous. I’m gonna wait till Nintendo releases more games. I’m not gonna spend €450 for it to collect dust like my PS5.

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• Zink@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m the dude in that meme looking at the other girl, and she is my icon collections in Steam, GOG, even Epic, etc. Icons with native Linux versions get slight preference.

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• fuzzywombat@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Gaming market as a whole seems to be going through a correction of sort and this is the time when Nintendo decides to raise the price? Good luck with that Nintendo.

  I along with just about everyone here probably have a massive back catalogue of games on Steam to ride out whatever is currently happening in the gaming industry. Maybe I’ll just chill over by the corner and watch the gaming market craters itself into the ground.

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• nadiaraven@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is an unpopular opinion, but y’all are forgetting about inflation. $60 in 2017 is $78 in 2025. $300 in 2017 is $390 today.

  My ex always mocked me for the prices of Nintendo switch games. She even got me into playing games on my PC. But except for trackmania, I always gravitate back to the Switch. And I’m definitely in a priveleged place so take this with a grain of salt, but I’m buying the Switch 2 pretty much no matter what. To me it’s worth the cost.

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  • h3adphones@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Tell that to the people making the same amount of money in 2025 that they were in 2017.

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  • eronth@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yes, inflation happened, and purchasing power has not grown or stayed the same with it. People can’t afford as much, so rising prices on entertainment are going to sting even more.

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  • Penguinz@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    General inflation doesn’t quite translate directly in all cases and is just a reference. In video games, costs have increased, but revenues have increased primarily through micro transactions and a growing market/sales. There’s virtually no marginal cost to produce additional units with software, so the revenues become a balance of price, demand, and supply. They are expecting that the price increase won’t result in a significant drop in demand so that revenue increases. If they’re wrong, this will be a huge business mistake. If enough people purchase anyway, like you, then they’ll increase revenues and this will be considered a great business decision

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    • AEsheron@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, I have rejected increased cost games for this very reason. But Nintendo is one of the few companies I believe would do it to cover their costs instead of just preying upon general apathy towards inflation since covid to jack up profit. They are too rich for my blood at the time, but if I had the income to splurge this would be one of a vanishingly small number of places I would be willing to put up with it.

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  • MorningThunder@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Also, even disregarding the inflation argument, video gaming is still one of the cheapest per hour hobbies.

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  • Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Its cool, your choice, you spend your money as you see fit.

    I personally would never spend 60 usd on a game in 2017 and will never spend 80 usd in 2025. Its just too much.

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• state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Just like their prices, Nintendo will never change.

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• 4shtonButcher@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Arrrr!

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• icecreamtaco@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Am I the only one who doesn’t care about this? We’ll wait for the 33% nintendo sales and fill the rest of the year with 3rd party 80% sales like always

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  • pycorax@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Or get it second hand for cheap lol, it’s not a big deal to me at least.

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• llii@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I buy pretty much every console there is, but I’ll pass here. Maybe there will be a price-cut OLED model and a new “Best of Switch 2” Series of games with cut prices (like on GameCube or Wii). Also I want to wait and see if the Joy-Cons 2 get drifting issues.

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• otp@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Canadian here: What’s the difference? /s

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  • circuitloss@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    For you it’ll be $120 Wilfrid Laurier bucks…

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• callouscomic@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Ubisoft’s The Crew 3: Super Mario Horizon

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• smeg@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Aren’t consoles and their new game always ridiculously expensive on launch? I know Nintendo stuff often doesn’t drop in price that much but I’d be surprised if they stay this expensive for long. Plenty of other games to play in the meantime!

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  • Kelly@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    These are the top 5 sellers on Switch:

    • Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
    • Animal Crossing: New Horizons
    • Super Smash Bros Ultimate
    • The legend of Zelda:Breath of the Wild
    • Super Mario Odyssey

    This links take you to a price tracker with chart showing historical prices. The RRP of each of these has been static, and discounts are short and infrequent.

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    • smeg@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Fair point, but I still can’t imagine they’ll be double that price for long. The only GBP price I’ve seen for a Switch 2 game is the MKW bundle which is only £30 more than the console on its own.

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  • DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It will only stay as high as the market and customers allow it

    If it sells out, expect a price drop in a few years

    If it fails to meet Nintendo’s expectations (3DS at launch) expect a price drop a few weeks or months (3DS at launch)

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    • Kelly@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If it sells out, expect a price drop in a few years

      Switch sold out in 2017, and now the same basic Neon model is selling for the same price in 2025.

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