OP is working for a huge corporation, so slacking off and getting paid for that is ethical.
Anon falls through the cracks
Submitted 5 weeks ago by Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works to greentext@sh.itjust.works
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Matriks404@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
festnt@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
depends on what huge organization it is
TammyTobacco@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Organizations don’t get big from kindness.
Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Big subgenius energy in anon’s post.
The subgenius MUST have slack!
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Fuck this guy. Living out my dream ;'(
oce@jlai.lu 5 weeks ago
If we ignore the actual stress of a manager suddenly finding out and asking you to report what you have been doing. Probably still possible to bullshit long enough in a big company to rextover your position or find another job.
Mongostein@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
This is why you shouldn’t get rid of all your work. Keep a bit and make it immaculate. If they ask why you haven’t done more, just say “nobody asked me to.”
OppaGundamStyle@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
“I’ve been awaiting my next job”
Probably get fire but oh well, easy run until that point.
arin@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
2022, pretty sure they are job hunting 2024
EnderMB@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I’ve told this story a few times now, but I never get sick of it.
Back in 2011 I left a startup that got acquired. On my last day we had a Christmas Party with our parent company, and we got to speaking to one guy that was on his own. After a few drinks, he blurted out that he had worked there for maybe 12 years, but at least 5-6 of those he was “unassigned”. When we asked what that meant, he said that his manager left and he was never assigned to a new team. He badged in every day, and after doing maybe 6 months of busy work and asking “wtf am I doing” to no answer from his department or HR he just came in to do his own stuff or play Unreal Tournament. He had yearly reviews with the head of department, and these were just high-level goal meetings where they reviewed the department, asked what he wanted, and left at that. Each year he was getting between a 2-5% pay rise, and outside of badging in he was only ever judged on his department output.
I always wonder what happened to that guy. The company is quite large and is still going strong, so he’s probably still there. I won’t name them, but another thing I loved about them was that they didn’t really know where to put Software Engineers, so they just assigned them to Marketing and gave each engineer a marketing budget to personally use - around £10k each. The best part? Everyone in marketing knew it was bullshit, but they pushed everyone to spend it because otherwise their budget would go down. Some highlights were a trip to Toronto to buy some books, a full team trip to Amsterdam to go to a React conference and live in basically 5-star accommodation, and renting a hotel lobby to quickly burn some money on interviewing interns. I think they actually have a tech department now, but I know many people I worked with that stayed for close to a decade because the WLB and perks were just too good to ignore.
Evotech@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
This is why downsizing isn’t always bad
Zementid@feddit.nl 5 weeks ago
Well… Letbthere be some fun in this world.
Apart from this … middle management is a real bloat nower days. Layers after layers of managers without contact to the actual product. (Now seen in Microsoft, Google and Enshittification)
JackbyDev@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
Imagine being so poorly managed that you downsize to cut back on unnecessary spending but literally lose track of an employee. Let’s keep the expense of an employee with none of the revenue generation!
SquatDingloid@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Nah no inanimate corporation is worth more than a human life.
TootSweet@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I’ve seen this happen with coworkers of mine. Folks who never did any work. And slipped under the radar for many years. at least two (and one other to a lesser extent) come to mind.
superkret@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
I have a coworker like that in a shared office. Guy fucking watches movies on speaker with the boss next door.
fadingembers@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
[deleted]31337@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Happens when you’re not proud of what you’re contributing to. Probably most workers, tbh.
psivchaz@reddthat.com 5 weeks ago
I was in a position like this once. The first two or three months were great. TBH, I mostly played video games and cleaned the house. It felt like free money. By the six month mark, I quit to go to something else. It’s surprising how mentally draining it is to just do nothing.
I think I took two things away from that experience: One, I think people generally have an innate need to produce something. We don’t want to just sit around and entertain ourselves, we want to contribute. Two, I think the 40 hour work week isn’t quite the right balance. Maybe 30 would be better.
petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
Gah, a 4-day work week would be wonderful. I might actually work on my side projects.
Hoimo@ani.social 5 weeks ago
One, I think
people generallyI have an innate need to produce something.WeI don’t want to just sit around and entertainourselvesmyself,weI want to contribute. Two, I think the 40 hour work week isn’t quite the right balance for me. Maybe 30 would be better for me.It’s good to learn from experiences, but it’s not good to assume that your experience is everyone’s experience.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Eh, I have kids, so I already have enough mental drain w/o my full-time job, so I think I’d end up catching up on things I’ve been putting off, like exercise, repairs around the house, etc.
In fact, I lost my job at the start of COVID and didn’t start looking for a few months because nobody was hiring. I got so much stuff done around the house, and I was able to essentially home-school my kids at the end of one school year and the beginning of the next. I really enjoyed that, and I would totally homeschool my kids if I didn’t need to work every day to pay the bills.
So yeah, I’d absolutely appreciate a 30-ish hour work week, especially if I got one whole day off instead of it being spread across 5-days.
RealM__@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Yeah same here.
I’m in a similar situation at the moment where my team is pretty unorganized, most employees are from an external company, and noone bothers to explain shit to me, even after I asked several times already. Plus, because of unenforced rules, it’s basically 100% home office and noone is ever present, even if I go in the office. I COULD just do nothing and pretend like I’m working all of the time, noone ever contacts me anyway. But that would genuinely make me wanna die.
I’m already feeling super useless most of the time and try to chew through old legacy code to at least gain an understanding of the project. It’s somewhat working, but it’s tough to keep up my motivation. Overall I kinda oscillate between feeling useless and frustrated because I’m just not as productive as I would want to be as an employee.
Anyway, I’m already sending out CVs to other job offers. This is not the ideal life for me and I don’t plan on keeping it going for longer than necessary.
Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Some people don’t dream of, or need, labor. I know I don’t. I have enough hobbies to keep me entertained forever.
SquatDingloid@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I think the whole “still getting enough money to survive” really makes a difference in how the unemployed see themselves
nutsack@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
yeah I am the same as you. I find it hard to respect anyone who slacks that hard
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 5 weeks ago
Long ago I worked at Wal-mart’s tire center while going to college and to get as many hours as I could they let me work with the overnight people after we closed at 7. In theory. The problem was the overnight managers never got told about this so I would just hang out doing nothing for 3 hours every night and getting paid. This went on for 3 months until I got a better job and no one ever questioned me about it.
superkret@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
Don’t you still feel bad about defrauding Walmart for 180 hours worth of pay?
Cause I don’t.lightnsfw@reddthat.com 5 weeks ago
I do not.
StinkySocialist@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
If I did this I would immediately try to get a second job with the extra time and save like crazy.
huquad@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
What would you say, you do here?
AlexisFR@jlai.lu 5 weeks ago
2022
So, how did it go?
todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Imagine figuring out how to get paid for nothing, and deciding to spend your days sitting on the couch watching TV instead of going out and living life.
What a wasted opportunity.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Or find a new job so you can save the entire salary, and then send in your 2-weeks just before yearly reviews. That way you can get ahead so you have less stress when you inevitably get cut off.
psmgx@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Nah don’t send in your two weeks, have them fire you and then claim unemployment, or get a severance.
Getting terminated would suck, but not if you already have a job and don’t need the reference.
TheSlad@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
wastes his time watching movies all day.
Really?? Smh
mosiacmango@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
World doesn’t have to be just hustle and grind. The man can enjoy himself however he likes, especially if he’s getting paid too.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Take the opportunity to acquire skills for the inevitable firing that’s coming later.
There was a story like that on Tales From Tech Support and when the guy got caught and had to find another job, it had been so long since he had actually worked that he had forgotten all about programming.
TheSlad@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Right? Like at lease pick up some hobbies or something. I can’t imagine having all that free time and just sitting there letting my brain and body fester.
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Or just get a second job and wait for the first one’s paychecks to stop rolling in.
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
recklessengagement@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Depending on the state you’re in you can get sued for all that money back, best to CYA
superkret@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
So this answers the question what universal basic income would lead to — sitting at home and watching movies
thefartographer@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Ah yes, the super-informative anecdotal sample size of…
*checks notes*
… one.*checks notes again*
Eh, an unreliable source at thatBonsoir@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
I’m mean, there’s a part of me that would say “fuck yeah, I would get a second job and get two incomes”. The other part of me is really sleepy, so I’m honestly not sure who would win this internal debate.
YungOnions@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Even a cursory search online provides evidence that that isn’t the case: www.givedirectly.org/2023-ubi-results/#design
Scubus@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
If he could read, you would have made him very upset.
TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
So your brilliant mind sees someone emphasizing how little work they have by saying they watch movies and you think “Hmpf, that’s probably what UBI is like!”
And now because you think it, it’s evidence? Fuck right outta here chump.
TheDoozer@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Because nobody ever accepts more work or responsibility for higher pay to afford more or better things. Most people work just enough to pay for rent and groceries and are perfectly happy with that.
OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 5 weeks ago
Difference between UBI and this is that you get paid the minimum for living, which would mean him being able to live like this would only be possible for a short amount of time or with really restricted funds
DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 5 weeks ago
Love that you’re getting down voted but we had something approaching universal basic income in my country trough wellfare plans that were not exclusive with each other and had super lax requirements (since corrupt officials would take a cut of them) and it resulted in a very marked increase in poverty and a very marked cultural decline in work ethic on the lower classes
Why work or study when you can just stay at home and get paid enough to survive if you vote for the “right” candidate. People love to dream about theorized ideals but reality is often more complicated
TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
love random comments dismissing potentially good policy because “in my country” which you didnt name, it doesn’t work
what kind of fucking scientist says “huh that attempt didn’t work i guess it never will”?
You’re not even going to tell us what country it is so we can see? probably not, because it is probably a shitty comparison.
and for the record, parent comment was downvoted because it’s fucking stupid. there’s no UBI in this post. it’s as if i take a day off and go to the park and say “Hmpf this is why UBI doesnt work!” like what the fuck are you talking about, UBI is not just when lazy day
oce@jlai.lu 5 weeks ago
So you’ve been promoted to a management position.
r00ty@kbin.life 5 weeks ago
You can make fun of managers not doing work. You know what's worse than someone at manager/director level that doesn't do any work? One that insists on doing so! Trust me, first hand experience.
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
The absolute worst are the micro-managers. They don’t want to do work, but they also don’t want to delegate.
Instead they opt for that limbo between, where the only “work” they do is redundant at best, and every employee under them feels like a vole being tracked by a hungry hawk.
BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
I worked for basically Michael Scott at some point in my life. Everyone knew that he had the easiest job on the planet, and he still didn’t do it, and we were all glad he didn’t. He could talk to a room full of people for hours and explain his position in the company for so long that you forgot what you even asked.
If you think the connection to Michael Scott ends there, you’d be wrong. You would always know when he had a new girlfriend, because he would talk about her all the time. One time he connected his laptop to the projector and the first thing that opened was a picture of his girlfriend. He looked at it, said: OH. Made sure everyone saw her and then pretended to hurry to start his speech.
One day he came to work, sat in my car (i was on my way to a jobsite and had no idea why he was there.) i didn’t want to talk, so i just took off. After some awkward silence, he said: i’m not even supposed to work today. I nodded, i had no idea. He asked if i knew why he’s here. I said nope. He said he was supposed to get married today but his girlfriend fucked two dudes in the jacuzzi yesterday.
There are countless stories like that and all i could think about was: this guy makes 60k a year by working two days a week. And i don’t mean because he was slacking off the rest, he was only employed 20%