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Game Freak has been allegedly hacked, with source codes for Pokemon games reportedly leaked
Submitted 5 weeks ago by simple@lemm.ee to games@lemmy.world
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PunchingWood@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 5 weeks ago
I laughed way too hard at this
misk@sopuli.xyz 5 weeks ago
In my head this is a retribution for financing hackers that attacked Internet Archive and nobody can convince me otherwise
technomad@slrpnk.net 5 weeks ago
Nintendo was responsible for that?
misk@sopuli.xyz 5 weeks ago
It’s like Lenin said, you look for the person who will benefit… And, uh… You know, you’ll, uh… You know what I mean.
The Dude
ronflex@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
This is a conspiracy theory I’m completely behind. With all the moves Nintendo has made recently this was the first thing I thought when Internet Archive was compromised
parpol@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
Patent the code and sue Nintendo when they release the game.
abfarid@startrek.website 5 weeks ago
You can’t patent code, and it’s automatically copyright protected. Nintendo just needs to prove they wrote the code originally, which should be easy.
parpol@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
You can patent the features that the code makes up.
Also, Nintendo has patented features existing in other games long before, and it hasn’t stopped them. The current lawsuit against palworld contains patent claims for features they do not actually own, which is why they need 100 different lawsuits coming their way so they get a taste of their own medicine.
They have an easy time suing one or two entities, but 100 different ones will have a significant economic impact.
Wolfram@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Good. Couldn’t have happened to a worse company other than Nintendo.
Now people can verify if Gamefreak’s excuses for not including all Pokemon in each game since the Switch games. And verify how low effort their games are.
HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Nintendo aren’t the worst company. Not even the worst gaming company. Not when they have competition like Ubisoft and Warner Brothers and EA and Activision.
Of course, if it weren’t for the presence of the aforementioned companies, Nintendo would be the worst.
Pieisawesome@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I mean they take like 33% of that guy named bowser’s life earnings. Which are severely reduced because they also got him thrown in jail for a felony.
That’s pretty uniquely evil
yamanii@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
As bad as they are, EA isn’t sending lawyers to every fan project that revives their old games, they are just regular greedy, not petty greedy.
smeg@feddit.uk 5 weeks ago
I’d say they’re not even the worst of the big three console manufacturers. The stuff Microsoft and Sony do to the gaming industry is just as bad, but that’s ignoring that they both have their fingers in a lot of other technological pies where they do some really bad shit.
DesolateMood@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Source code is only for HG/SS and B2W2, so we still can’t verify anything about the newer genes
Wolfram@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Damn. Too bad. But those are both interesting games to have the source code of.
ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Is the source code for HG/SS the latest or is it from an earlier build?
goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 5 weeks ago
Now people can verify if Gamefreak’s excuses for not including all Pokemon in each game since the Switch games are real. And verify how low effort their games are.
Wasn’t it true, but due to time not technical issues. Basically they keep redoing/remaking from scratch sprites instead of re-using them.
Liz@midwest.social 5 weeks ago
Nah, some folks got a hold of the wire frames for the sprites from the that version and the previous version and showed most were identical. Of those that weren’t, many were only slightly modified, and clearly not generated from scratch.
Wolfram@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Evidence wouldn’t be as concrete as source code, but there was plenty of evidence from data miners. Gamefreak kept moving goal posts when it came to why it wasn’t feasible for Sword and Shield to have all the Pokémon which is my frustration with that situation. I think they complained about the capacity of the cartridge the games were stored on was one, which was readily proven wrong. Dont quote me on that. But I do think that was ultimately the case.
Charzard4261@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
Nope. The models have stayed the same from X&Y to Sword and Shield. Only in Scarlet and Violet have they been given an upgrade.
secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 5 weeks ago
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Somebody had to find out whether there really was a Mew under the truck in Red and Blue after all.
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Someone here recently blew my mind with this video, time for me to pay it forward.
Hadriscus@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
So the glitch never existed but he programmed it in ? Do I understand this right ?
fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Pokemon could be made in RPG maker in like 5 minutes.
AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Pokemon Infinite Fusion is in fact made in RPG maker and is imo the best Pokemon game out there.
Mango@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
If only I can figure out how to get it running on my Steam Deck.
Matriks404@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
That’s probably something a person who has no clue about Pokemon could say. You underestimate how many mechanics older game contain, since like half of them are not obvious for casual players.
fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
You got me. It would probably take more than 5 minutes to do. You saw through my web of lies.
underisk@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
It is a menu driven battler that ran on a game boy. It doesn’t take a programming savant to write this, no matter how many mechanics you bolt on top.
FinalRemix@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
It’s a standard RPG but replace the equipment with animals. Done.
Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Now I kind of want a Flintstones RPG.
SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Gameboy studio in 30.
IDrawPoorly@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
I mean, people have already created the majority of their good games from scratch so…
Xanis@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Oh I promise you that isn’t the point.
excral@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
I’m waiting in for the headline in a couple days or so:
Another hack at Gamefreak: Hackers upload fixed source codes
Unknown hackers have fixed the frame rate issues while upgrading the graphics quality to the level of the earliest Switch titles like Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild.
ChapulinColorado@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Forgot: “Nintendo is suing all of them!”
dch82@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Lol, but Game Freak’s code is spaghetti, to the point where decomps are easier to read than the actual source files.
Meron35@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Love how everyone in the comments are shitting on Nintendo and Game Freak lmao
Jomega@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I swear to god, the Lemmy hive mind is even more intense than their predecessor.
pancakes@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
That’s like whining that everyone hates Blizzard or Ubisoft because of some hive mind mentality. Could it be that maybe it’s just a commonly hated company based off their unethical actions over the last 10+ years?
SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Yes, that’s nice and all…but have you tried typing out “Fuck Nintendo” in a comment?
ApollosArrow@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I know you’re being downvoted, but I had the same thought. I see more outcry over nintendo than other companies. Yes, Nintendo has done bad things, but if I were to go back and browse Reddit I feel like the level of hate on Lemmy is much higher. I have to assume it’s due to the open source nature of Lemmy and it’s ideals.
sexual_tomato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
Wow, everyone left another platform and were inspired to leave for the same reason, as a group. Now they’re showing extreme similarities in other ways! When will the madness stop??!
ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
They really, really, really, really earned it.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
i got a papercut on a playing card back in aught three
Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Don’t nobody want that trash codebase.
GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Hobbyists have made Pokemon clones in their basement for decades. They never needed the source code.
If I’m not mistaken, there’s an entire online RPG ran by hobbyists.
Etterra@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
It’s not about the code. It’s about sending a message.
okamiueru@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Maybe this was an intentional leak. Now the Nintendo lawyers can claim they’ve used stolen proprietary code?
echodot@feddit.uk 5 weeks ago
They literally never introduce any new concepts to their games I think the last new innovation in the pokemon game is supposed to allow you to have two vs two. That was about 10 years ago I think
Psythik@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You get what you fucking deserve, Nintendo.
argarath@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Not even close to enough but at least it’s a start!!
Cris16228@lemmy.today 5 weeks ago
IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Good. Fuck them. Steal everything of value from them.
Jomega@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
It’s beta builds of old games. It’s only valuable to super fans who wanted to see what could have been.
Nexy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 weeks ago
There are leaks of 3 future games also. Gen 10, 11 and a MMO
KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Oh no!
Anyways, is that new Palworld island any good
yamanii@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Also design documents like the dude that mated with an octillery lol. The concept of people and pokemon breeding was still referenced in sinoh, but in a way tamer way.
Akuji@leminal.space 5 weeks ago
Can I already get my hopes up for some PC ports?
Dremor@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Probably not, that’d be piracy, and I’m sure that Nintendo will sue them to hell. 😅
simple@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Technically yes but I doubt anyone would go through the effort only to be sued into oblivion.
Matriks404@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
There are a lot of fangames that contain regions and their Pokemon from original games, with some enhancements. You could try these.
mlg@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
The people who will be most happy to have it would be the wiimmfi team and the devs running pokemon classic network.
They can finally see what the implementation of gen 5 ranked battles and game sync was, instead of having to reverse engineer it all.
Everyone else is probably only interested in asset data, Nintendo switch 2, or finding exploits for homebrew lol.
leopold@lemmy.kde.social 5 weeks ago
No romhacker or homebrew developer worth their salt will touch any of this. Using leaked material is legally significantly more dangerous than REing. I look forward to seeing the TCRF pages, though.
atocci@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
They can’t use this code at all, it would be a surefire way to get the project shut down. Reverse engineering is the only way to operate something like that legally.
JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Ive no interest but hopefully its up on torrents soon for those who are interested.
Matriks404@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
It’s a huge deal for hardcore fans, but I am overall against these practices, since they are just illegal, period.
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Time to clone mewtwo
Prethoryn@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I am seeing a lot of negative comments on here and while I agree the franchise has grown stale I can also say the personal emails of employees being leaked is shit and shouldn’t happen. Nintendo had to have their day and it came and here we are but it sucks employees are at the butt of the leak.
Also as a fan I welcome competition and games like PalWorld but the classic Pokemon games hold true to my heart and some of these leaks are really dn cool while others set a concerning precedent for what data companies leave laying around and for how long.
For those of you that are interested there are some really interesting things to come out of this for fans.
Source code to games sucks in one manner but gives modders and ROM hackers the opportunity to do many things. It is tools like this Nintendo should have just embraced providing or should allow the community to have community versions to do what they want with it after 25+ years. Maybe it would he less intriguing if those tools were open sourced and the may hidden items were just openly shared. There would be less incentive to steal if they innovated on tools or left old ones to the past to be what they are. However, likewise, legally it is their IP to do with what they want.
Source code is one but straight up editing tools for how they created e-card code for e-card readers. 3DS Dev Kits and Pokemon Beta games sets a whole other wheel in motion and gives players real power to do what will absolutely hurt Nintendo’s bottom line and that is develop. That has to be a real wake up call to Nintendo.
Seeing leaks about the anime, movies, and future games is a bummer to me and I don’t want any part of that. I would rather those stay a mystery so I can be ready to play them and even if you don’t like Pokemon or Nintendo that is fine some of us hate Nintendo and like Pokemon because it was there for us as a child when your parents are going through a divorce. (TMI I know) point there is stuff adult me loves seeing because kid me would never have thought some of this would shed so much light on Nintendo’s development and scrapped ideas and processes. While Nintendo should and very much will take action on their IP. I really think if they want to learn from this they will tackle damages on upcoming films, shows, and games. Instead of being embarrassed by old stuff they should just say, “fuck it” and embrace the community doing with it what they want. We are talking about 20 year old data in some cases and tools most people have already debugged, replicated, and deciphered.
repungnant_canary@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
This is, reportedly, a comment under, reportedly, a post
kibiz0r@midwest.social 5 weeks ago
source codes
Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Nintendo deserves only the worst for killing yuzu and ryujinx
clot27@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
lets go, hope now we get to play these pokemon games on PC
Lexam@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Fuck yeah, going to compile me some free Pokémon!
TacticsConsort@yiffit.net 5 weeks ago
Now that’s really interesting! I wonder where I can go to see this stuff…
SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Is there a remind me bot like reddit?
Even_Adder@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
Good.
snekerpimp@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Terabytes of the same game, just in different colors.
HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Sort of. The same game, over and over, each time in a different colour, each time with a higher pixel density, each time a little bit worse.
Psythik@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Which is exactly why I stopped playing after Gen 2, which was the peak of the series IMO. If you want to see everything the series has to offer, just play Gold/Silver (or their remakes on the DS). No reason to waste time and money on any other Pokémon game.
Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com 5 weeks ago
I kinda agree, but B2/W2 was actually peak Pokémon. You should give those games a go, it’s samey but polished to rubbish-bag shiny perfection.
ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Gen 4 was peak IMO, both the new Pokemon as well as the best remakes ever made.
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
Pokemon Black/White 1 & 2 are as close to that as you want. Great story, amazing songs that i still hum to this day, and the designs are as solid as Gen 1 and 2.
frozen@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 5 weeks ago
Radical Red and Polished Crystal are peak, in my opinion. I can’t go back to the lack of special/physical split, it’s just awful.