Fallout, Wasteland, The Elder Scrolls.
Anon wants American companies to make a good RPG
Submitted 2 years ago by Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works to greentext@sh.itjust.works
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Bonsoir@lemmy.ca 2 years ago
loutr@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
Yeah, “western RPGs” from a couple decades ago were mostly made in the US. Then Bethesda bought interplay and it all went to shit.
And thanks for reminding me of Child of Light, I’ve had it in my library for ages, installing it to my steam deck right now :)
Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
You’re never gonna believe this friend, but Montreal is actually in Canada.
ieatpwns@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Fun fact Canada is in North America
JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Canada, North America?
proceduralnightshade@lemmy.ml 2 years ago
Stick of truth was developed by Obsidian
Bonsoir@lemmy.ca 2 years ago
You’re right it was only published by Ubi. The Fractured but Whole was developed by Ubi.
primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 2 years ago
well… fallout, wasteland.
pillars of eternity? I don’t know if americans made it, but it was pretty intensely american.
CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 2 years ago
Fallout and TES are “alright” at most, and extremely boring theme parks at worst
JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Cool.
Wilzax@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Intentionally lists RPGs not set in US
Why doesn’t my list have RPGs set in the US?!?
ಠ_ಠ
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
RDR isn’t an RPG, it’s an action-adventure game.
I concur on the rest.
Wilzax@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I don’t think those genres are mutually exclusive. I haven’t played RDR1 but RDR2 is definitely an Action-Adventure RPG. You level up Arthur’s stats throughout the game and can choose different moral paths that affect the ending. That’s playing a role.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Isn’t RDR exactly as much of an RPG as Mass Effect. Neither gives you any real control over the main story, though I guess Mass Effect makes you think you do better. The sidequests are about as open, and neither do you get to choose your character.
I don’t know if I do actually think RDR is an RPG, but that opinion is shared for Mass Effect, The Witcher, and so many others. They’ve taken they ability point systems from RPGs, but they’re still action adventure games with RPG mechanics.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 years ago
Fallout? And I mean the interplay fallouts.
bouh@lemmy.world 2 years ago
After 20 years you need to do something new. You can’t live forverer on your legacy.
Neon@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Swiss person here:
What’s that supposed to mean?
Are you trying to say we aren’t recognized as the supreme military power in Europe anymore?
Surely you’re joking, right?!
Paradachshund@lemmy.today 2 years ago
Is Neverwinter nights American? That’s a good one.
ackthxbye@feddit.org 2 years ago
NWN1 was from Bioware, NWN2 from Obsidian. Both are from the USA, but NWN2 is nearly 20 years old by now.
BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 2 years ago
dont limit just to black isle fallouts lol
3 new vegas and 4 are great and even 76 is good
phuntis@lemm.ee 2 years ago
4 is not even remotely great it is genuinely awful 3 is fine I won’t insult 3 I enjoyed it not as much as nv I loved nv but I enjoyed it it was good even but 4 is an insult
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 years ago
Not even in the same league. Barely even RPGs. New Vegas being the best and it still pales in comparison.
JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Even 76? Todd get the fuck out of here, no one’s taking the bait.
AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 2 years ago
I’m gonna defend the Americans on this one.
Fallout and Elder Scrolls are two of the most obvious examples that could have been listed, but they weren’t.
GoodEye8@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Last mainline TES game is a decade old and Fallout 4 is also nearing that decade. Meanwhile almost all games in OPs list have released in the last decade.
There’s Obsidian but besides them I really can’t come up with another good RPG studio from the US.
Zess@lemmy.world 2 years ago
So what you’re saying is that Bethesda are RPG hipsters.
TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 2 years ago
also GTA
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 years ago
GTA and RDR have zero decision making or conversation options or skill trees. They are open world action games that took some design notes from open world RPGs.
Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Anything ever made by black isle studios. This includes fallout 1 + 2.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 2 years ago
It gets even worse when you know Europe and Asia are the same continent.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 years ago
Errh, sort of.
It really depends on your definition of Continent. Most people would argue that Asia is a different continent.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
Our accepted definition of what a continent is sucks. Why is Europe considered a continent but India is not? Every argument for Europe being a separate continent applies even better to India.
Europe just wanted to be special and controlled science at the time, change my mind.
Ummdustry@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
I feel like most people actually don’t care that much about Continental Boundries to give an Argument either way.
BakedGoods@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
Not sort of. Most people are idiots. There are seven geological continents and here’s a list of them:
Africa Antarctica Australia Eurasia North America South America Zealandia
These contain various subcontinents.
TheKingBombOmbKiller@lemm.ee 2 years ago
I’m surprised no one has mentioned Mass Effect yet. Or Dragon Age, even with a picture of a cosplay of Morrigan in the OP.
Soleos@lemmy.world 2 years ago
BioWare is Canadian
WldFyre@lemm.ee 2 years ago
If Elden Ring is Canadian, and Witcher is European, then we can just call Bioware games North American
Peddlephile@lemm.ee 2 years ago
I thought that was the joke.
Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 years ago
Pathfinder - Asia
Uhh, no? Paizo is an American company. Based in Redmond, Washington, according to Wikipedia.
dabu@lemmy.world 2 years ago
I think they meant Owlcat Games, creators of Pahtfinder Kingmaker and Wrath of the Righteous video games. They are based in Cyprus but their developers are all over the place from what I know (so it’s more Europe-Asia kind of thing but I may be wrong)
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
Honestly, everyone’s developers are all over the place. Almost every studio hires contractors from wherever to do things as basic as spell checking to pathfinding to artwork.
iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
The post is clearly talking about video games. It is reasonable to conclude they are talking about the Pathfinder video games, which were not made by Paizo, but by Owlcat Games. Whether or not Cypress is part of Asia is kind of debatable.
Louisoix@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Not including FF, Dragon Quest or Persona in Asian RPGs?? Blasphemy!
Eiri@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Yeah that’s like saying “great Nintendo games like Splatoon”. I mean i don’t disagree, it’s an imaginative game, but hello? Mario? Zelda?
Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Is Rockstar US? I considered the red dead series a quite hellacious RPG. Is GTA an RPG?
tagoth@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Rockstar is a US company, but the developers of GTA are Rockstar North in the UK. They used to be their own company developing GTA, when they were bought by Rockstar.
Red Dead is definetly an american game though.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 years ago
Rockstar is a British company that has a studio in the US but they’re not an American company. Rockstar North is their original studio.
BakedGoods@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
The publisher is but the studio that makes GTA games is in Scotland. Not syre about Red Dead. Probably a collaborative effort between their studios, most of which is in the UK.
Tyr_Raidho_Othala@reddthat.com 2 years ago
Well, the Diablo series was quite good
Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 2 years ago
was
jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 2 years ago
I blissfully remember getting my hands on the Hellfire expansion for the first one; I didn’t even know it existed until my uncle gave it to me.
primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 2 years ago
wasn’t blizzard north canadian, though?
Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 2 years ago
When Canada makes good shit we just claim it as American. People rarely call us on it.
Hector@lemmy.ca 2 years ago
I thought Canada’s pride and glory was Eidos Montreal and now you’re telling me Blizzard North was here too? Oh goodie!
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 year ago
WoW was pretty good, too. Maybe too good. It had my hyper focus for like 4 years. I wish I could get a tenth as into games now as I was into WoW about 20 years ago.
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 2 years ago
Dungeons and Dragons
jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 2 years ago
The OG RPG.
primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 2 years ago
yes but they said good.
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 2 years ago
Exactly. All RPGs can trace their lineage back to Gygax.
qarbone@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Wants good RPGs
lists Solasta, one of the mid-dest games I’ve have the neutrality of playing
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Wasn’t Gary Gygax American?
Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yeah, Americans created the RPG genre…
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 years ago
I was going to say Horizon Zero Dawn, but Guerilla Games is Dutch.
phuntis@lemm.ee 2 years ago
HZD isn’t an rpg
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 years ago
I’d say it’s just barely an Action RPG. But there’s no real decision making in the story, or even an attempt at it like Mass Effect, The Witcher, Cyberpunk.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 years ago
Other than the fact that it is. It’s got a skill tree and experience points…
Etterra@lemmy.world 2 years ago
America invented the entire RPG genre - thank you Steve and Dave (d&d). Anon isn’t just wrong; he’s a complete idiot.
FatherGascown@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Ameritards can’t even handle being a country, let alone creating decent content.
PenisDuckCuck9001@lemmynsfw.com 2 years ago
We’re too busy fighting over beer cans and food in this dead economy to have time for fucking game development
zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
Yeah game devs get paid so little here, they’re the ones fighting the hardest over the scrap metal and food
Coldgoron@lemmy.world 2 years ago
There was once a game called Warcraft 3. I refuse to play the remake.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 years ago
That’s an RTS anyway.
tilefan@lemm.ee 2 years ago
I seriously can’t tell if that’s cosplayer video game screenshot
CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 2 years ago
It’scosplay from dragon age origin
Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Cosplay, from a North American RPG that’s a classic.
mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Bethesda alone.
Wizardry, Ultima… Rogue?
The entire genre of RPGs exists because of geek-ass weirdos on American mainframes in the late 1970s. I got nerd-sniped wondering what could’ve come out on Channel F, and every trope was established and waiting before literally the first proper games console.
figjam@midwest.social 2 years ago
Grand theft auto.
KeefChief13@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Wit da SKALD reference
JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Aren’t Bethesda games the most bought RPGs overall???
jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 2 years ago
Anon baits people into recommending good RPGs