Fallout, Wasteland, The Elder Scrolls.
Anon wants American companies to make a good RPG
Submitted 5 weeks ago by Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works to greentext@sh.itjust.works
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Bonsoir@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
loutr@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Yeah, “western RPGs” from a couple decades ago were mostly made in the US. Then Bethesda bought interplay and it all went to shit.
And thanks for reminding me of Child of Light, I’ve had it in my library for ages, installing it to my steam deck right now :)
Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
You’re never gonna believe this friend, but Montreal is actually in Canada.
ieatpwns@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Fun fact Canada is in North America
proceduralnightshade@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Stick of truth was developed by Obsidian
Bonsoir@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
You’re right it was only published by Ubi. The Fractured but Whole was developed by Ubi.
primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
well… fallout, wasteland.
pillars of eternity? I don’t know if americans made it, but it was pretty intensely american.
CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Fallout and TES are “alright” at most, and extremely boring theme parks at worst
Wilzax@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Intentionally lists RPGs not set in US
Why doesn’t my list have RPGs set in the US?!?
ಠ_ಠ
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
RDR isn’t an RPG, it’s an action-adventure game.
I concur on the rest.
Wilzax@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I don’t think those genres are mutually exclusive. I haven’t played RDR1 but RDR2 is definitely an Action-Adventure RPG. You level up Arthur’s stats throughout the game and can choose different moral paths that affect the ending. That’s playing a role.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
Isn’t RDR exactly as much of an RPG as Mass Effect. Neither gives you any real control over the main story, though I guess Mass Effect makes you think you do better. The sidequests are about as open, and neither do you get to choose your character.
I don’t know if I do actually think RDR is an RPG, but that opinion is shared for Mass Effect, The Witcher, and so many others. They’ve taken they ability point systems from RPGs, but they’re still action adventure games with RPG mechanics.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 weeks ago
Fallout? And I mean the interplay fallouts.
bouh@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
After 20 years you need to do something new. You can’t live forverer on your legacy.
Neon@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Swiss person here:
What’s that supposed to mean?
Are you trying to say we aren’t recognized as the supreme military power in Europe anymore?
Surely you’re joking, right?!
Paradachshund@lemmy.today 5 weeks ago
Is Neverwinter nights American? That’s a good one.
ackthxbye@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
NWN1 was from Bioware, NWN2 from Obsidian. Both are from the USA, but NWN2 is nearly 20 years old by now.
BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
dont limit just to black isle fallouts lol
3 new vegas and 4 are great and even 76 is good
phuntis@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
4 is not even remotely great it is genuinely awful 3 is fine I won’t insult 3 I enjoyed it not as much as nv I loved nv but I enjoyed it it was good even but 4 is an insult
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 weeks ago
Not even in the same league. Barely even RPGs. New Vegas being the best and it still pales in comparison.
AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 5 weeks ago
I’m gonna defend the Americans on this one.
Fallout and Elder Scrolls are two of the most obvious examples that could have been listed, but they weren’t.
GoodEye8@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Last mainline TES game is a decade old and Fallout 4 is also nearing that decade. Meanwhile almost all games in OPs list have released in the last decade.
There’s Obsidian but besides them I really can’t come up with another good RPG studio from the US.
Zess@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
So what you’re saying is that Bethesda are RPG hipsters.
TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 5 weeks ago
also GTA
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
GTA and RDR have zero decision making or conversation options or skill trees. They are open world action games that took some design notes from open world RPGs.
Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Anything ever made by black isle studios. This includes fallout 1 + 2.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
It gets even worse when you know Europe and Asia are the same continent.
echodot@feddit.uk 5 weeks ago
Errh, sort of.
It really depends on your definition of Continent. Most people would argue that Asia is a different continent.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Our accepted definition of what a continent is sucks. Why is Europe considered a continent but India is not? Every argument for Europe being a separate continent applies even better to India.
Europe just wanted to be special and controlled science at the time, change my mind.
Ummdustry@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
I feel like most people actually don’t care that much about Continental Boundries to give an Argument either way.
BakedGoods@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Not sort of. Most people are idiots. There are seven geological continents and here’s a list of them:
Africa Antarctica Australia Eurasia North America South America Zealandia
These contain various subcontinents.
TheKingBombOmbKiller@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
I’m surprised no one has mentioned Mass Effect yet. Or Dragon Age, even with a picture of a cosplay of Morrigan in the OP.
Soleos@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
BioWare is Canadian
WldFyre@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
If Elden Ring is Canadian, and Witcher is European, then we can just call Bioware games North American
Peddlephile@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
I thought that was the joke.
Zagorath@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
Pathfinder - Asia
Uhh, no? Paizo is an American company. Based in Redmond, Washington, according to Wikipedia.
dabu@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I think they meant Owlcat Games, creators of Pahtfinder Kingmaker and Wrath of the Righteous video games. They are based in Cyprus but their developers are all over the place from what I know (so it’s more Europe-Asia kind of thing but I may be wrong)
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Honestly, everyone’s developers are all over the place. Almost every studio hires contractors from wherever to do things as basic as spell checking to pathfinding to artwork.
iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
The post is clearly talking about video games. It is reasonable to conclude they are talking about the Pathfinder video games, which were not made by Paizo, but by Owlcat Games. Whether or not Cypress is part of Asia is kind of debatable.
Louisoix@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Not including FF, Dragon Quest or Persona in Asian RPGs?? Blasphemy!
Eiri@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Yeah that’s like saying “great Nintendo games like Splatoon”. I mean i don’t disagree, it’s an imaginative game, but hello? Mario? Zelda?
Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Is Rockstar US? I considered the red dead series a quite hellacious RPG. Is GTA an RPG?
tagoth@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Rockstar is a US company, but the developers of GTA are Rockstar North in the UK. They used to be their own company developing GTA, when they were bought by Rockstar.
Red Dead is definetly an american game though.
echodot@feddit.uk 5 weeks ago
Rockstar is a British company that has a studio in the US but they’re not an American company. Rockstar North is their original studio.
BakedGoods@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
The publisher is but the studio that makes GTA games is in Scotland. Not syre about Red Dead. Probably a collaborative effort between their studios, most of which is in the UK.
Tyr_Raidho_Othala@reddthat.com 5 weeks ago
Well, the Diablo series was quite good
Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
was
jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 5 weeks ago
I blissfully remember getting my hands on the Hellfire expansion for the first one; I didn’t even know it existed until my uncle gave it to me.
primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
wasn’t blizzard north canadian, though?
Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
When Canada makes good shit we just claim it as American. People rarely call us on it.
Hector@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
I thought Canada’s pride and glory was Eidos Montreal and now you’re telling me Blizzard North was here too? Oh goodie!
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
WoW was pretty good, too. Maybe too good. It had my hyper focus for like 4 years. I wish I could get a tenth as into games now as I was into WoW about 20 years ago.
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 5 weeks ago
Dungeons and Dragons
jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 5 weeks ago
The OG RPG.
primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
yes but they said good.
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 5 weeks ago
Exactly. All RPGs can trace their lineage back to Gygax.
qarbone@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Wants good RPGs
lists Solasta, one of the mid-dest games I’ve have the neutrality of playing
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Wasn’t Gary Gygax American?
Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Yeah, Americans created the RPG genre…
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I was going to say Horizon Zero Dawn, but Guerilla Games is Dutch.
phuntis@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
HZD isn’t an rpg
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I’d say it’s just barely an Action RPG. But there’s no real decision making in the story, or even an attempt at it like Mass Effect, The Witcher, Cyberpunk.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 weeks ago
Other than the fact that it is. It’s got a skill tree and experience points…
Etterra@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
America invented the entire RPG genre - thank you Steve and Dave (d&d). Anon isn’t just wrong; he’s a complete idiot.
FatherGascown@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Ameritards can’t even handle being a country, let alone creating decent content.
PenisDuckCuck9001@lemmynsfw.com 5 weeks ago
We’re too busy fighting over beer cans and food in this dead economy to have time for fucking game development
zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Yeah game devs get paid so little here, they’re the ones fighting the hardest over the scrap metal and food
Coldgoron@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
There was once a game called Warcraft 3. I refuse to play the remake.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
That’s an RTS anyway.
tilefan@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
I seriously can’t tell if that’s cosplayer video game screenshot
CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
It’scosplay from dragon age origin
Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Cosplay, from a North American RPG that’s a classic.
HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
Give me like 15 years.
mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Bethesda alone.
Wizardry, Ultima… Rogue?
The entire genre of RPGs exists because of geek-ass weirdos on American mainframes in the late 1970s. I got nerd-sniped wondering what could’ve come out on Channel F, and every trope was established and waiting before literally the first proper games console.
figjam@midwest.social 5 weeks ago
Grand theft auto.
KeefChief13@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Wit da SKALD reference
jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 5 weeks ago
Anon baits people into recommending good RPGs