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Anon wants American companies to make a good RPG

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Submitted ⁨⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works⁩ to ⁨greentext@sh.itjust.works⁩

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  • jabathekek@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Anon baits people into recommending good RPGs

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  • Bonsoir@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Fallout, Wasteland, The Elder Scrolls.

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    • loutr@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah, “western RPGs” from a couple decades ago were mostly made in the US. Then Bethesda bought interplay and it all went to shit.

      And thanks for reminding me of Child of Light, I’ve had it in my library for ages, installing it to my steam deck right now :)

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    • Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You’re never gonna believe this friend, but Montreal is actually in Canada.

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      • pound_heap@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Still not Europe or Asia, innit?

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      • ieatpwns@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Fun fact Canada is in North America

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      • JokeDeity@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Canada, North America?

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    • proceduralnightshade@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Stick of truth was developed by Obsidian

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      • Bonsoir@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You’re right it was only published by Ubi. The Fractured but Whole was developed by Ubi.

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    • primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      well… fallout, wasteland.

      pillars of eternity? I don’t know if americans made it, but it was pretty intensely american.

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    • CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Fallout and TES are “alright” at most, and extremely boring theme parks at worst

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      • JokeDeity@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Cool.

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  • Wilzax@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Intentionally lists RPGs not set in US

    Why doesn’t my list have RPGs set in the US?!?

    ಠ_ಠ

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      RDR isn’t an RPG, it’s an action-adventure game.

      I concur on the rest.

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      • Wilzax@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I don’t think those genres are mutually exclusive. I haven’t played RDR1 but RDR2 is definitely an Action-Adventure RPG. You level up Arthur’s stats throughout the game and can choose different moral paths that affect the ending. That’s playing a role.

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      • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Isn’t RDR exactly as much of an RPG as Mass Effect. Neither gives you any real control over the main story, though I guess Mass Effect makes you think you do better. The sidequests are about as open, and neither do you get to choose your character.

        I don’t know if I do actually think RDR is an RPG, but that opinion is shared for Mass Effect, The Witcher, and so many others. They’ve taken they ability point systems from RPGs, but they’re still action adventure games with RPG mechanics.

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  • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Fallout? And I mean the interplay fallouts.

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    • bouh@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      After 20 years you need to do something new. You can’t live forverer on your legacy.

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      • Neon@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Swiss person here:

        What’s that supposed to mean?

        Are you trying to say we aren’t recognized as the supreme military power in Europe anymore?

        Surely you’re joking, right?!

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    • Paradachshund@lemmy.today ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Is Neverwinter nights American? That’s a good one.

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      • ackthxbye@feddit.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        NWN1 was from Bioware, NWN2 from Obsidian. Both are from the USA, but NWN2 is nearly 20 years old by now.

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    • BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      dont limit just to black isle fallouts lol

      3 new vegas and 4 are great and even 76 is good

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      • phuntis@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        4 is not even remotely great it is genuinely awful 3 is fine I won’t insult 3 I enjoyed it not as much as nv I loved nv but I enjoyed it it was good even but 4 is an insult

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      • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Not even in the same league. Barely even RPGs. New Vegas being the best and it still pales in comparison.

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      • JokeDeity@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Even 76? Todd get the fuck out of here, no one’s taking the bait.

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  • AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m gonna defend the Americans on this one.

    Fallout and Elder Scrolls are two of the most obvious examples that could have been listed, but they weren’t.

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    • GoodEye8@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Last mainline TES game is a decade old and Fallout 4 is also nearing that decade. Meanwhile almost all games in OPs list have released in the last decade.

      There’s Obsidian but besides them I really can’t come up with another good RPG studio from the US.

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      • Zess@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        So what you’re saying is that Bethesda are RPG hipsters.

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    • TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      also GTA

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      • RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        GTA and RDR have zero decision making or conversation options or skill trees. They are open world action games that took some design notes from open world RPGs.

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    • Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Anything ever made by black isle studios. This includes fallout 1 + 2.

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  • NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It gets even worse when you know Europe and Asia are the same continent.

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Errh, sort of.

      It really depends on your definition of Continent. Most people would argue that Asia is a different continent.

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      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Our accepted definition of what a continent is sucks. Why is Europe considered a continent but India is not? Every argument for Europe being a separate continent applies even better to India.

        Europe just wanted to be special and controlled science at the time, change my mind.

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      • Ummdustry@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I feel like most people actually don’t care that much about Continental Boundries to give an Argument either way.

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      • BakedGoods@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Not sort of. Most people are idiots. There are seven geological continents and here’s a list of them:

        Africa Antarctica Australia Eurasia North America South America Zealandia

        These contain various subcontinents.

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  • TheKingBombOmbKiller@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m surprised no one has mentioned Mass Effect yet. Or Dragon Age, even with a picture of a cosplay of Morrigan in the OP.

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    • Soleos@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      BioWare is Canadian

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      • WldFyre@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If Elden Ring is Canadian, and Witcher is European, then we can just call Bioware games North American

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    • Peddlephile@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I thought that was the joke.

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  • Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Pathfinder - Asia

    Uhh, no? Paizo is an American company. Based in Redmond, Washington, according to Wikipedia.

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    • dabu@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think they meant Owlcat Games, creators of Pahtfinder Kingmaker and Wrath of the Righteous video games. They are based in Cyprus but their developers are all over the place from what I know (so it’s more Europe-Asia kind of thing but I may be wrong)

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      • Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Honestly, everyone’s developers are all over the place. Almost every studio hires contractors from wherever to do things as basic as spell checking to pathfinding to artwork.

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    • iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The post is clearly talking about video games. It is reasonable to conclude they are talking about the Pathfinder video games, which were not made by Paizo, but by Owlcat Games. Whether or not Cypress is part of Asia is kind of debatable.

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  • Louisoix@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Not including FF, Dragon Quest or Persona in Asian RPGs?? Blasphemy!

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    • Eiri@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah that’s like saying “great Nintendo games like Splatoon”. I mean i don’t disagree, it’s an imaginative game, but hello? Mario? Zelda?

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  • Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Is Rockstar US? I considered the red dead series a quite hellacious RPG. Is GTA an RPG?

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    • tagoth@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Rockstar is a US company, but the developers of GTA are Rockstar North in the UK. They used to be their own company developing GTA, when they were bought by Rockstar.

      Red Dead is definetly an american game though.

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      • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Rockstar is a British company that has a studio in the US but they’re not an American company. Rockstar North is their original studio.

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    • BakedGoods@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The publisher is but the studio that makes GTA games is in Scotland. Not syre about Red Dead. Probably a collaborative effort between their studios, most of which is in the UK.

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  • Tyr_Raidho_Othala@reddthat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Well, the Diablo series was quite good

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    • Iheartcheese@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      was

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      • jabathekek@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I blissfully remember getting my hands on the Hellfire expansion for the first one; I didn’t even know it existed until my uncle gave it to me.

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    • primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      wasn’t blizzard north canadian, though?

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      • Iheartcheese@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        When Canada makes good shit we just claim it as American. People rarely call us on it.

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      • Hector@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I thought Canada’s pride and glory was Eidos Montreal and now you’re telling me Blizzard North was here too? Oh goodie!

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    • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      WoW was pretty good, too. Maybe too good. It had my hyper focus for like 4 years. I wish I could get a tenth as into games now as I was into WoW about 20 years ago.

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  • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Dungeons and Dragons

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    • jabathekek@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The OG RPG.

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      • primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        yes but they said good.

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      • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Exactly. All RPGs can trace their lineage back to Gygax.

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  • qarbone@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Wants good RPGs

    lists Solasta, one of the mid-dest games I’ve have the neutrality of playing

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    • starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Image

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  • wowwoweowza@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Wasn’t Gary Gygax American?

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    • Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah, Americans created the RPG genre…

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  • RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I was going to say Horizon Zero Dawn, but Guerilla Games is Dutch.

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    • phuntis@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      HZD isn’t an rpg

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      • RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’d say it’s just barely an Action RPG. But there’s no real decision making in the story, or even an attempt at it like Mass Effect, The Witcher, Cyberpunk.

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      • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Other than the fact that it is. It’s got a skill tree and experience points…

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  • Etterra@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    America invented the entire RPG genre - thank you Steve and Dave (d&d). Anon isn’t just wrong; he’s a complete idiot.

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  • FatherGascown@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ameritards can’t even handle being a country, let alone creating decent content.

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    • PenisDuckCuck9001@lemmynsfw.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      We’re too busy fighting over beer cans and food in this dead economy to have time for fucking game development

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      • zalgotext@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah game devs get paid so little here, they’re the ones fighting the hardest over the scrap metal and food

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  • Coldgoron@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There was once a game called Warcraft 3. I refuse to play the remake.

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    • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s an RTS anyway.

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  • tilefan@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I seriously can’t tell if that’s cosplayer video game screenshot

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    • CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’scosplay from dragon age origin

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    • Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Cosplay, from a North American RPG that’s a classic.

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  • HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Give me like 15 years.

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  • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Bethesda alone.

    Wizardry, Ultima… Rogue?

    The entire genre of RPGs exists because of geek-ass weirdos on American mainframes in the late 1970s. I got nerd-sniped wondering what could’ve come out on Channel F, and every trope was established and waiting before literally the first proper games console.

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  • figjam@midwest.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Grand theft auto.

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  • KeefChief13@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Wit da SKALD reference

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  • JokeDeity@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Aren’t Bethesda games the most bought RPGs overall???

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