Fallout, Wasteland, The Elder Scrolls.
Anon wants American companies to make a good RPG
Submitted 8 months ago by Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works to greentext@sh.itjust.works
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Bonsoir@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
loutr@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Yeah, “western RPGs” from a couple decades ago were mostly made in the US. Then Bethesda bought interplay and it all went to shit.
And thanks for reminding me of Child of Light, I’ve had it in my library for ages, installing it to my steam deck right now :)
Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
You’re never gonna believe this friend, but Montreal is actually in Canada.
ieatpwns@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Fun fact Canada is in North America
JokeDeity@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Canada, North America?
proceduralnightshade@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Stick of truth was developed by Obsidian
Bonsoir@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
You’re right it was only published by Ubi. The Fractured but Whole was developed by Ubi.
primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 8 months ago
well… fallout, wasteland.
pillars of eternity? I don’t know if americans made it, but it was pretty intensely american.
CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Fallout and TES are “alright” at most, and extremely boring theme parks at worst
JokeDeity@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Cool.
Wilzax@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Intentionally lists RPGs not set in US
Why doesn’t my list have RPGs set in the US?!?
ಠ_ಠ
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
RDR isn’t an RPG, it’s an action-adventure game.
I concur on the rest.
Wilzax@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I don’t think those genres are mutually exclusive. I haven’t played RDR1 but RDR2 is definitely an Action-Adventure RPG. You level up Arthur’s stats throughout the game and can choose different moral paths that affect the ending. That’s playing a role.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Isn’t RDR exactly as much of an RPG as Mass Effect. Neither gives you any real control over the main story, though I guess Mass Effect makes you think you do better. The sidequests are about as open, and neither do you get to choose your character.
I don’t know if I do actually think RDR is an RPG, but that opinion is shared for Mass Effect, The Witcher, and so many others. They’ve taken they ability point systems from RPGs, but they’re still action adventure games with RPG mechanics.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 months ago
Fallout? And I mean the interplay fallouts.
bouh@lemmy.world 8 months ago
After 20 years you need to do something new. You can’t live forverer on your legacy.
Neon@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Swiss person here:
What’s that supposed to mean?
Are you trying to say we aren’t recognized as the supreme military power in Europe anymore?
Surely you’re joking, right?!
Paradachshund@lemmy.today 8 months ago
Is Neverwinter nights American? That’s a good one.
ackthxbye@feddit.org 8 months ago
NWN1 was from Bioware, NWN2 from Obsidian. Both are from the USA, but NWN2 is nearly 20 years old by now.
BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 8 months ago
dont limit just to black isle fallouts lol
3 new vegas and 4 are great and even 76 is good
phuntis@lemm.ee 8 months ago
4 is not even remotely great it is genuinely awful 3 is fine I won’t insult 3 I enjoyed it not as much as nv I loved nv but I enjoyed it it was good even but 4 is an insult
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 months ago
Not even in the same league. Barely even RPGs. New Vegas being the best and it still pales in comparison.
JokeDeity@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Even 76? Todd get the fuck out of here, no one’s taking the bait.
AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 8 months ago
I’m gonna defend the Americans on this one.
Fallout and Elder Scrolls are two of the most obvious examples that could have been listed, but they weren’t.
GoodEye8@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Last mainline TES game is a decade old and Fallout 4 is also nearing that decade. Meanwhile almost all games in OPs list have released in the last decade.
There’s Obsidian but besides them I really can’t come up with another good RPG studio from the US.
Zess@lemmy.world 8 months ago
So what you’re saying is that Bethesda are RPG hipsters.
TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 8 months ago
also GTA
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 8 months ago
GTA and RDR have zero decision making or conversation options or skill trees. They are open world action games that took some design notes from open world RPGs.
Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Anything ever made by black isle studios. This includes fallout 1 + 2.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 8 months ago
It gets even worse when you know Europe and Asia are the same continent.
echodot@feddit.uk 8 months ago
Errh, sort of.
It really depends on your definition of Continent. Most people would argue that Asia is a different continent.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Our accepted definition of what a continent is sucks. Why is Europe considered a continent but India is not? Every argument for Europe being a separate continent applies even better to India.
Europe just wanted to be special and controlled science at the time, change my mind.
Ummdustry@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I feel like most people actually don’t care that much about Continental Boundries to give an Argument either way.
BakedGoods@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Not sort of. Most people are idiots. There are seven geological continents and here’s a list of them:
Africa Antarctica Australia Eurasia North America South America Zealandia
These contain various subcontinents.
TheKingBombOmbKiller@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I’m surprised no one has mentioned Mass Effect yet. Or Dragon Age, even with a picture of a cosplay of Morrigan in the OP.
Soleos@lemmy.world 8 months ago
BioWare is Canadian
WldFyre@lemm.ee 8 months ago
If Elden Ring is Canadian, and Witcher is European, then we can just call Bioware games North American
Peddlephile@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I thought that was the joke.
Zagorath@aussie.zone 8 months ago
Pathfinder - Asia
Uhh, no? Paizo is an American company. Based in Redmond, Washington, according to Wikipedia.
dabu@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I think they meant Owlcat Games, creators of Pahtfinder Kingmaker and Wrath of the Righteous video games. They are based in Cyprus but their developers are all over the place from what I know (so it’s more Europe-Asia kind of thing but I may be wrong)
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Honestly, everyone’s developers are all over the place. Almost every studio hires contractors from wherever to do things as basic as spell checking to pathfinding to artwork.
iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
The post is clearly talking about video games. It is reasonable to conclude they are talking about the Pathfinder video games, which were not made by Paizo, but by Owlcat Games. Whether or not Cypress is part of Asia is kind of debatable.
Louisoix@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Not including FF, Dragon Quest or Persona in Asian RPGs?? Blasphemy!
Eiri@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yeah that’s like saying “great Nintendo games like Splatoon”. I mean i don’t disagree, it’s an imaginative game, but hello? Mario? Zelda?
Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Is Rockstar US? I considered the red dead series a quite hellacious RPG. Is GTA an RPG?
tagoth@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Rockstar is a US company, but the developers of GTA are Rockstar North in the UK. They used to be their own company developing GTA, when they were bought by Rockstar.
Red Dead is definetly an american game though.
echodot@feddit.uk 8 months ago
Rockstar is a British company that has a studio in the US but they’re not an American company. Rockstar North is their original studio.
BakedGoods@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
The publisher is but the studio that makes GTA games is in Scotland. Not syre about Red Dead. Probably a collaborative effort between their studios, most of which is in the UK.
Tyr_Raidho_Othala@reddthat.com 8 months ago
Well, the Diablo series was quite good
Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 8 months ago
was
jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
I blissfully remember getting my hands on the Hellfire expansion for the first one; I didn’t even know it existed until my uncle gave it to me.
primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 8 months ago
wasn’t blizzard north canadian, though?
Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 8 months ago
When Canada makes good shit we just claim it as American. People rarely call us on it.
Hector@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
I thought Canada’s pride and glory was Eidos Montreal and now you’re telling me Blizzard North was here too? Oh goodie!
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 8 months ago
WoW was pretty good, too. Maybe too good. It had my hyper focus for like 4 years. I wish I could get a tenth as into games now as I was into WoW about 20 years ago.
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 8 months ago
Dungeons and Dragons
jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
The OG RPG.
primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 8 months ago
yes but they said good.
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 8 months ago
Exactly. All RPGs can trace their lineage back to Gygax.
qarbone@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Wants good RPGs
lists Solasta, one of the mid-dest games I’ve have the neutrality of playing
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Wasn’t Gary Gygax American?
Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yeah, Americans created the RPG genre…
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I was going to say Horizon Zero Dawn, but Guerilla Games is Dutch.
phuntis@lemm.ee 8 months ago
HZD isn’t an rpg
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’d say it’s just barely an Action RPG. But there’s no real decision making in the story, or even an attempt at it like Mass Effect, The Witcher, Cyberpunk.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 8 months ago
Other than the fact that it is. It’s got a skill tree and experience points…
Etterra@lemmy.world 8 months ago
America invented the entire RPG genre - thank you Steve and Dave (d&d). Anon isn’t just wrong; he’s a complete idiot.
FatherGascown@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Ameritards can’t even handle being a country, let alone creating decent content.
PenisDuckCuck9001@lemmynsfw.com 8 months ago
We’re too busy fighting over beer cans and food in this dead economy to have time for fucking game development
zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Yeah game devs get paid so little here, they’re the ones fighting the hardest over the scrap metal and food
Coldgoron@lemmy.world 8 months ago
There was once a game called Warcraft 3. I refuse to play the remake.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That’s an RTS anyway.
tilefan@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I seriously can’t tell if that’s cosplayer video game screenshot
CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
It’scosplay from dragon age origin
Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Cosplay, from a North American RPG that’s a classic.
HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
Give me like 15 years.
mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Bethesda alone.
Wizardry, Ultima… Rogue?
The entire genre of RPGs exists because of geek-ass weirdos on American mainframes in the late 1970s. I got nerd-sniped wondering what could’ve come out on Channel F, and every trope was established and waiting before literally the first proper games console.
figjam@midwest.social 8 months ago
Grand theft auto.
KeefChief13@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Wit da SKALD reference
JokeDeity@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Aren’t Bethesda games the most bought RPGs overall???
jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Anon baits people into recommending good RPGs