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Anon questions the magic box

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Submitted ⁨⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works⁩ to ⁨greentext@sh.itjust.works⁩

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  • Godort@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    To be fair, the physics that makes refrigeration work does feel like you’re manipulating primal forces like a wizard

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    • bradorsomething@ttrpg.network ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You are literally pumping hot outside.

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      • PunnyName@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        While utilizing the physics of pressurized coolants that prefer to be gasses around your house.

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      • GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        And you can reverse the process, pumping heat inside instead, even when it’s freezing outside! Magic, I tell you.

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    • NegativeInf@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Do not upset Maxwell’s demon when you’re down there sorting the cold atoms from the hot ones!

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      • oce@jlai.lu ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Did Maxwell contribute to thermodynamics?

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    • JayDee@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Material phase changes are like a cheat code for humanity. Reusable chemical handwarmers are also black magic. You just click a metal plate inside and all of a sudden it’s a hot solid.

      NightHawkInLight made a video showing how you can mix two different salts together and it’ll create a packet that stays at 65 degrees for hours.

      Video in question

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    • prole@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Who needs magical thinking when you have thermodynamics?

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  • GluWu@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There’s a tank of cold inside. Its the primary export of northern European countries and sustains nearly their entire economies since the only other thing they can “make” is fucking rotten fish. Its important to recycle your AC every 3 years before it runs out of cold by throwing it into the ocean where it can return to be made into glaciers.

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    • DataDisrupter@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Well, because you didn’t add a /s to your comment, some day it will end up as an answer spewed out by some LLM, as absolutely factual.

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      • Allero@lemmy.today ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Let’s hope people won’t get so reliant on LLMs and so uncritical they follow through

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      • nawa@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I see no downsides

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      • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Do LLMs ignore the /s even?

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    • Famko@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This anti-swedish sentiment makes you look like a Dane.

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      • Barbarian@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s impossible. Everyone knows that Danes can’t communicate.

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    • bionicjoey@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Weirdly this is basically how refrigerators worked before refrigeration was invented.

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      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        But instead of throwing out the refrigerator, you’d just add more cold to it.

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  • Chivera@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Turn it around to cool the outside. Global warning solved.

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    • Daefsdeda@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Actually a more efficient electric heater. This is known as an heat pump, aka reverse AC

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      • Allero@lemmy.today ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Heat pump was one of the inventions I thought of in my childhood and was like “oh, it actually works and is good” as an adult.

        Of course, the child version was along the lines of “what if we take fridge, put the cold end out and hot end in”, but you see the point.

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    • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Seriously, that would have to work better than those giant fans they’re building offshore.

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      • filcuk@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Ooh, I’ve always wondered what those were for. Makes sense.

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  • snue@feddit.dk ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    this video from ‘technology connections’ explains it quite well ^^

    youtu.be/_-mBeYC2KGc

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    • ocassionallyaduck@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I love how mad he gets at single duct in room units too. Rightfully so.

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  • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Through the magic of the latent heat of vaporization

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    • sane@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      i feel technologically connected right now

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      • salmoura@lemmy.eco.br ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        ♫ thermodynamically smooth jazz ♫

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  • Holzkohlen@feddit.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Heat pumps really are amazing tech.

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    • Honytawk@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They are also one of the few things that are more than 100% energy efficient.

      300% to be exact. Because it uses some natural phenomena that just needs a little jump start and then can be maintained with little energy for massive air movement.

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      • Aux@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That efficiency metric doesn’t really reflect what’s going on. Of course moving stuff around is easier than heating it.

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      • absentbird@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Some are as high as 500% efficient.

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      • rbesfe@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The vapor compression cycle isn’t exactly natural, and the compressor still needs a bunch of energy to keep going once it’s started.

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      • And009@reddthat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Ah… energy doesn’t work that way. You can’t have a perpetually endless cycle with 100% efficiency in real world.

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      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yup. I’m hoping my AC and furnace die around the same time so I can just replace both with a heat pump.

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    • Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Why would they remove heat any differently, it’s the same concept cooking a fridge or freezer as a room. Am I too ignorant to understand why this is crazy because I want my mind blown.

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      • LazerFX@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        How about saying that a normal air con unit, with a few extra valves, can heat as well as cool - in other words, if you’ve got Aircon, you’ve got a full heat pump, just without a pipe to do the heating bit. The energy you’re spending cooling your house could also be heating your water… For free.

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  • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The air is hot because it’s moving around a bunch.

    The air gets fanned over some coils filled with coolant.

    The coolant gets heated and starts moving around a bunch causing it to move through the coil through some insulation foam to the outside half.

    Once it nears the end of the loop it has to go through the compressor.

    The compressor squishes the moving coolant and now it can’t move around as much, all the heat gets dissipated into the surrounding outside air.

    The compressor lets the cooled coolant go back through to the inside.

    Process Repeats with diminishing returns.

    Wizard_Fucking_Magic

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  • Ruthalas@infosec.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Shove the hot out the window. *taps head

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    • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Literally how it works, too.

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      • IzzyJ@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Technology Connections has a great video that goes in more detail. Basically an AC is a reverse heater

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  • hyhachi@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    it adds heat to the system to make more cold. duh. global warming solved. stupid enviromentards.

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    • RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      So, if we all turned up the heat also during summer, the climate would cool down! Genius! Just don’t go inside.

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      • maniii@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        No yah dummy. Put the Room in the middle of the Earth and PUMP all the outside heat into the planet core!

        BAM! Instant Arctic Weather in the middle of summer !

        And BAM! Reverse it for the winter!

        BAM! Mild Temps all Year round!

        You can thank me later EnvironMentaLists!

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  • Glowstick@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ok, but here’s a real answer. Have you ever sprayed a can of hair spray or wd-40 and the can got cold? That’s basically the same process.

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    • RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Install a 12-pack of wd40 in my window, got it!

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      • PunnyName@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Turn it upside down, first.

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    • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think whip-its are much more fun way of teaching that concept.

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  • LordKitsuna@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Oh boy have i got a video you you anon!

    youtu.be/7J52mDjZzto

    It has an entire section at the start explaining how these magic cold boxes work to help with understanding their next evolution heatpump

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    • where_am_i@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      ofc it’s a technology connection video. Lemmy is the dude’s biggest organized fan club

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      • LordKitsuna@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Based Lemmy users just understand how good it is. I can’t wait for his third half hour video about dishwashers

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  • Dkarma@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “all of the sudden”

    Disregard

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    • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      In ye ole Enlysch, it was

      “All of ye sudden”

      For some raisin, “all of the sudden” just tastes better to me.

      Technically “all of a sudden” is more correct.

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    • thenextguy@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      All of some sudden?

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      • hydrospanner@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Some of the sudden.*

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  • boatsnhos931@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Image

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    • PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Well I love AC Momma! And she loves me too! And she makes my titties real perky!

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  • ramenshaman@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Wait until he finds out about refrigerators.

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  • pyre@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    ICP frequenting 4chan?

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  • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Maxwell’s demon lives in there.

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    • lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s like a mini-Gandalf telling all those Balrog-shaped hot molecules “YOU SHALL NOT PASS!”.

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      • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The demon lets the fast ones out and the slow ones in.

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  • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    phase change refrigerant loops baby!

    Technically it’s a uni directional heat pump. But we’re just abusing the basic laws of thermodynamics. Fluids when compressed, heat up, and when expanded, cool down. Compress it, it heats up, cool it down, and then expand it, and suddenly, boom sub ambient cooling has been achieved. (the phase change happens in between to maximize effectiveness/efficiency)

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  • werefreeatlast@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    LOL 😅…so you got a cup of coffee ☕, you wait, it gets cold 🥶…how is that even possible!!!

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  • nexguy@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Hot air goes out, cool air goes in. You can’t explain that.

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  • robocall@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s a trick. It costs money.

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    • Iheartcheese@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It turns money into cold. Transmutation.

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    • brbposting@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah for whichever neighbor the extension cord is connected to

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  • Sam_Bass@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Physics, dog

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  • yemmly@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Magnets

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  • uis@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    By boiling special magical water

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  • docoptix@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Magnets!

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    • BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      home.howstuffworks.com/magnetic-air-conditioner.h…

      Maybe not far off.

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  • lowleveldata@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You have to pay the bill so that makes sense

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  • DarkCloud@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Didn’t Einstein work on some of the compression technology that went into refrigeration? Pretty sure he had something to do with it.

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    • user134450@feddit.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Nope, not compression tech. The Einstein refrigerator is an absorption refrigerator and these don’t use compressors.

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  • nao@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    who has a window like that

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    • uis@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Americans. Wider belly needs wider windows.

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  • Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Its a placebo your room isn’t actually cooling down. The power companies just want to charge you more money.

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