Comment on Posting for the "Now guys he was MURDERED! Don't celebrate!" Crowd

criss_cross@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• theacharnian@lemmy.ca ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  His last word was “violence”.

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  • TachyonTele@piefed.social ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It's beautiful

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    • ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s poetic.

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      • TachyonTele@piefed.social ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        And isn't it poetic?
        Don't you think?

        It's like rain on that assholes birthday
        It's a free ride when they've already paid
        It's the gun shot that you just took to the neck
        And who would've thought? It figures

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  • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Image

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  • SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    A sniper with an innate sense of comedic timing?

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    • sad_detective_man@leminal.space ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Maybe he was waiting for Chuck to say a number. But chuck was too slippery. One last owning of the libs, right before he was triggered. 😇

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    • Klear@quokk.au ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I'm guessing shooting at any other point would produce similar results.

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  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If violence isn’t working, you’re not using enough violence.

    shot; dies

    Narrator:

    the violence worked.

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• ceenote@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I always said “You can tell when Charlie Kirk is arguing in bad faith by when his lips are moving and sounds are coming out.”

  And it was literally the last thing he ever did.

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  • lastunusedusername2@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    He died doing what he loved

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    • theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Lying for money. I hope he saved enough for his family

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      • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I do unironically feel bad for his kids, even if they may grow up better without him they still watched their dad get ganked in public. Note they were with him at the time.

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    • aeronmelon@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Hating.

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• phoenixarise@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  “Gang violence” = racist dog whistle. The assassin couldn’t have picked a more perfect time to fire. 😂

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  • Cruel@programming.dev ⁨33⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    I mean, most gang activity comes from young black men, but that does not mean it’s racist to talk about it. I think talking about whether to include or exclude “gang violence” from a conversation about mass shootings is appropriate and not offensive in the slightest.

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  • Treetrimmer@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I mean ideally it would’ve been at his time of birth

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    • phoenixarise@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Okay, second-best time. 😂

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• WoodScientist@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  He was engaging in hate-mongering right until the end. Just like the Nazi propagandists of the WW2 era, he was spreading a message of a demonized minority group being responsible for countless crimes and social ills. He ran literally the exact same playbook against trans people as the Nazis did against Jews.

  I have no more sympathy for him than the Nazi propagandists we hanged at Nuremberg. They’re guilty of the exact same crimes against humanity.

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• jimmux@programming.dev ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I would actually like to know what he was leading to with that question. Is the implication that gangs have an overrepresentation of trans people? Or that gang violence doesn’t count for some reason?

  I guess we’ll never know.

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  • bigfondue@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s a common talking point among the right that there aren’t really that many mass shootings in America if you exclude gang violence. Y’know, which is done by and only effects those people

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  • Deme@sopuli.xyz ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Pointing out that gangs do a lot of violence is an attempt to shift blame onto the demographic groups which are overrepresented in gangs due to socioeconomic reasons (systemic racism).

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  • abir_v@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Given who he was, probably the latter as a to-him socially acceptable racist dog whistle.

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    • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      acceptable

      I bdt he was pretty piseed he had to dog-whistle it.

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  • ceenote@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Using one minority as a scapegoat for gun violence wasn’t working, so he was switching to a different minority.

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  • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s a deflection technique. The intention was to not answer or address the question at all, but to shift to another topic he could more easily use to manipulate his audience. If you’ve ever watched him “debate” he was a master of deflection.

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    • pivot_root@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      he was a master of deflection.

      With words, maybe. With lead, evidently not.

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    • jimmux@programming.dev ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Now that you mention it, this seems most likely.

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  • chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    As others mentioned, “gang violence” is generally a euphemism for non white, especially poor, people. I used to listen to Knowledge Fight(stopped after election not because of the boys, but didn’t want to hear Jones gloat) and during several shootings that involved black victims Jones dismissed it as gang violence.

    One case I recall was a shooting in a school in GA that he was spinning some other way, until he found out the school was primarily black and the victim (who survived iirc) was black. He then just stated the kid was in a gang with no proof and dismissed the story.

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  • slaacaa@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Just some good old racism

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  • ryedaft@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    He was obviously arguing that skin colour minorities were doing any shooting that trans Americans weren’t. Because his goal in life was to make people feel like they belonged - by vilifying out groups. And then monetize that shit.

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  • WoodScientist@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It was more anti-trans hate mongering. 2 or 3 trans shooters out of 5700 is nothing. If you can whittle down the number of “mass shootings” to just a handful of incidents, can make it seem like trans people are vastly over-represented among school shooters.

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    • _druid@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The number of trans shooters versus non-trans shooters probably has trans shooters falling comfortably into a margin of error. I can’t do the math, though, I’m no numbersmith.

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      • WoodScientist@lemmy.world ⁨35⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        Sure. Even if the raw numbers said that say, trans people are 1% of the population, and 1.5% of shooters, that would still be a meaningless figure. The sample size is too low to make any meaningful conclusion.

        But the point is even if you don’t apply statistics, even using the sample we have, trans people are vastly under-represented among shooters. We represent about 1% of the population and 0.1% of shooters. You don’t even need to apply statistics. The numbers on their face show that there is zero evidence that trans people are over-represented.

        Now, statistically, I would say that there is insufficient evidence to suggest that the rate of trans shooters is any different from the overall population, higher or lower. But there is less than zero evidence that trans people are over-represented.

        The trans shooter myth is simply blood libel.

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  • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    our gangs of forcefemme communists are very trans and very violent, yes

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• EldenLord@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Reality displayed an immaculate sense of poetic justice today.

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• aeronmelon@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Seriously? We’re living in a movie.

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  • PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It gets dumber…there was a school shooting today, 3 kids dead, 1 state over from this.

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• Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Does anyone have video of this? (This conversation, not the shooty part) All the news media are quoting this while referring to a video but not showing it.

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  • HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I watched the close up video and didn’t find it too traumatic especially given all what has been happening in gaza and Ukraine

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    • Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I saw it uninentionally and it was horrifying. It’s always horrifying to see such a thing, no matter who it is.

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      • JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Meh, /b/ broke me a long time ago

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    • iii@mander.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You’re desensitized to violence. Not something to be proud of or encourage 😟

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      • HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Do you say the same to those supporting Israel’s germicide in Gaza? Or ruzzias slaughtering and rapping in Ukraine? Or the children being blasted away in schools across the us on a daily basis?

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    • pivot_root@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I had the same experience. It’s regrettable how desensitized to violence I am these days.

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  • AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They’re /very/ intertwined. I don’t recommend looking for it unless you want trauma

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    • gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah, like less than a second after he says violence is a sudden and absurd amount of gore

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      • Assassassin@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        A full on tarintino, some would say

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• ThePantser@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Almost like the one asking the questions was in on it. I hope they never find them.

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