I know he was a very violent revolutionary, but do you have sources for him specifically targeting any of those people/groups? I know he oversaw the execution of a lot of people from the Batista government, but hadn’t heard of any specific targeting based on race, sexual orientation, or jobs.
Why are you wearing his tee-shirt
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just2look@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Akasazh@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I meant the guy is taking shitposting very seriously, I think they decided to follow through in the comments.
However shitty the takes and the self proclaimed engagement baiting.
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Motorcycle diaries he talks about all of it. Look into his writings the Hombre Nuevo. The UMAP camps that came from his actions.
just2look@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
The motorcycle diaries were written before any of his revolutionary actions, and pretty sure they didn’t involve murder. The new man was about sacrificing yourself for the revolution and being more interested in being productive for the new communist society, at least from my understanding. So don’t see how any of that was supporting the meme. The labor camps are absolutely fucked up, but I don’t think Che himself specifically wanted any of the people listed to be put in labor camps.
And it says he murdered those people which implies targeted killing. So misleading at best, and possibly intentionally misleading. He had enough flaws without making up shit.
tomi000@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Meme also doesn’t say he outwardly targeted based on these factors
Bro you literally wrote “murdered”. Thats way more direct involvement than targeting. Get your stupid brainwashed propaganda memes our of here.
menas@lemmy.wtf 2 weeks ago
Okay that interesting. However it classify “shitty person” whoever take part in a social organization that do the same thing : like if you are a US, UK or French pay taxer
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
The revolution freed the slaves in Cuba, ended its colonialism by the US, provided free medicine and education for every citizen, reformed land so there were no big landlords any longer, created vast amounts of infrastructure in rural areas that did not have any before this, and much, much more.
beejboytyson@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Cuba has more doctors per sq. inch than another country in NA. Everybody in Cuba is highly educated despite it being a place where not the smartest people vacation to. Only reason Cuba is not an economic power house is because of the embargo that’s been going on for 50 years.
TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
indeed. the biggest reason socialism fails is because capitalists keep kneecaping it, not because its a flawed system.
ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“How many left countries do I need to destroy to show you that it does not work?” - Every US intelligence agency, probably
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Yep! It’s also resource poor as an island, which makes it that much more impressive!
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Ok, but Guevara got kicked out of Cuba because all he wanted was war. He was also a bastard to his own troops.
Tja@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
“everybody I don’t like is a fascist”
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
I don’t like fascists, and Fulgencio Batista certainly was.
ContriteErudite@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You are absolutely correct–while this will probably be buried among all the other replies, I want to share the video essay by overzealots that confronts the liberal media’s propaganda/disinformation campaign surrounding the Cuban revolution.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Thanks!
ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Not today, CIA.
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Hissssss
Agent641@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Nice try, FBI!
Smif_N_Lenin@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Great post, Marco Rubio! Keep up the great work!
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That guy’s only like 5’7 at best.
Smif_N_Lenin@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
athatet@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
*67
Agent641@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Revolutionaries aren’t perfect, so it’s better to stick with the billionaire pedophiles that you already know and love.
OryxAndCake@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Do you know what a ‘strawman’ is?
greygore@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I think this is more false dichotomy than strawman.
protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
i dont
abc@suppo.fi 2 weeks ago
I think there are more options in the t-market market than just 1) communist fuckwad 2) billionaire fuckwad.
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
That face when you spread misinformation
B1tch_Pudding@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
You should tell him to go back to reddit
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Why haven’t you blocked me yet?
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
How will they troll if they do.
luthis@lemmy.nz 2 weeks ago
It baffles me how this guy became an icon.
Here’s a short video if anyone wants to learn about him
themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Symbols are easier than actual people. Nobody is just one thing, and complexity doesn’t travel well. Revolutionaries are either lionized or demonized, and so it becomes easier for the critics to ignore valid points while simultaneously being easier for the supporters to ignore atrocities. Rather than an objective, complete understanding of the man, you get polarized factions that don’t see each other as people.
eurodyne@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
It baffles me how this guy became an icon.
I’m sure the fact that he was hot had a lot to do with it.
Same with Stalin. Did you know young Stalin looked like this?
Waterpumpee@lemmus.org 2 weeks ago
Bro couldnt grow a beard if his life depended on it but i guess you’re correct. Also he fought for communism which is at its base a nice idea. Too bad it has to be forced and always be supervised by central authocratic governments which tend to give no fucks about human rights.
Would it be discrimination to not kill someone only because they have one of those traits?
luthis@lemmy.nz 2 weeks ago
I’m a straight guy and even I can tell he’s a handsome bloke.
I had a similar thought about Snowden and Assange. Both those guys look like movie stars.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Latin American hangs out with Westerner is the usual path.
Remember when the CIA fuded schools to teach Right Wing Death Squads and they put in a bunch of rightwing dictators because they’re scared of communism having a turn?
History is hilarious.
Maeve@kbin.earth 2 weeks ago
Huh, al Nursa is in charge of Syria. The people are rioting, despite al nursa front man collaborating with Zionist death squads.
kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I’ll see that and raise you someone who doesn’t have a ton of videos titled “you won’t BELIEVE how awful this communist group was!”: youtu.be/sB5-yxDrDQk
luthis@lemmy.nz 2 weeks ago
Genocide denial never was and never will be cool.
Ramsesder13te@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Nover idolise a person. Everyone has god and bad sides. Some more of one or the other. Let them inspire you not think for you. He however wasn’t much of a thinking kinda guy…
modus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You’re not wrong, but someone tell me why I shouldn’t wear TV’s late Fred Rogers on my T-Shirt.
tetris11@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
He was a shoe murderer. Every morning he would take off his shoes and fling them from his apartment window with such force that birds would disintegrate from impact and people below would suffer similar fates as his shoes were steel capped
SoupBrick@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“The blacks, those magnificent examples of the African race who have maintained their racial purity thanks to their lack of an affinity with bathing, have seen their territory invaded by a new kind of slave: the Portuguese.”
“The poor man, apart from being a sexual pervert and a bore, had treated us well and given us ten soles each. Probably an invertido”
“The black is indolent and a dreamer; spending his meager wage on frivolity and drink; the European has a tradition of work and saving…”
DarkCloud@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Ohh bitch, now …are you on a serious political campaign in a shit posting forum.
No!..
Sad day for you bro.
Did you think everyone was talking about Che Guavara then you came in?
Did you think he was still an icon?
Bitch no…
Why so serious?
Bitch…
Kintarian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Humans never learn. They have a bloody revolution to overthrow the dictator so they can install another dictator.
UpAndAtThem@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Kill your heroes, eat their corpses, and shit out a better tomorrow!
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
At least he wasn’t a pedophile
Ramsesder13te@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Low bar my friend.
ameen272@thelemmy.club 2 weeks ago
That doesn’t mean you have to lower your standards…
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
"hey, I’m a homophobe but I’m here to free you from slavery"
- nah thanks, we’ll wait for someone with better standards.
zxqwas@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
In international politics the “good guys” are the ones that are hostile towards your enemy regardless of any other shortcomings.
Objection@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Has anybody ever actually seen someone unironically wearing a Che Guevara T-shirt in the last 20 years? This is such a boomer meme.
4grams@awful.systems 2 weeks ago
assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Because his enemies would never.
jdr@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Don’t forget the time he killed a dog
leftist_lawyer@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
That is precisely the face I make if they’re capitalists. Good riddance to bad rubbish. I don’t care if you’re a nun. If you’re a capitalist nun — you’re evil.
zakobjoa@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s cult of personality and it’s too much power (or any) over others in the hands of individuals.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Now picture all those people in MAGA hats still supporting Trump’s police violence campaigns in 2035 when Trump is still in office, and all the jokes are about elections and trying to get letters to places without them being read.
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Is that what you want?
DarkCloud@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So tell me what you want what you really really want…
A handjob from the spice girls.
expletivedeleted@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
T-shirt. Because you have two arms.
You aren’t a golf course. The tee isn’t shaped like a T. Though now you have me imagining Jesus on the green.
remon@ani.social 2 weeks ago
Well that was what all the other non conformists would wear as well!
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
I always just liked the irony of putting this guy on a tshirt and selling them at retailers.
valgarf@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
1000018481
DarkCloud@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I made one with mickey mouse ears on him.
Back when Post-Modern stuff like that wasn’t considered Cultural Marxism or part of MAGAs claims about the trans agenda.
hansolo@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
I’m sure that’s also considered some sort of appropriation, which is a word used when someone wishes you would jump into a volcano so they don’t have to think about how isolationist a true non-appropiated world would be. The solution is villages of ethnic hegemony where no one travels. We have that, it’s called being a redneck.
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Haha he must have been turning in his grave
Tja@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Made in China or Bangladesh by effectively slave labor.
Maeve@kbin.earth 2 weeks ago
China cracks down on that when found.