"We're all in this together"

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• homes@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yes, he’s a wasteful, elitist asshole, but still keep on recycling. Better yet, stop using plastic bottles altogether, and get a reusable bottle which you can refill. The best ones are thermally insulated, so you can put hot or cold drinks with ice in them, so they stay hot or cool for hours, and have drink spouts on them.

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  • gex@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Hank Green did a video inspired by a similar meme after the Blue Origin rocket explosion. He acknowledged that plastic recycling isn’t great, but encouraged focusing on other materials like aluminium. The explosion released 825 tons of carbon dioxide, which is ~1% of the hourly emissions of the aluminum industry. The current amount of recycled cans in the US saves the equivalent to 15 rocket explosions of carbon every day.

    So yeah, get a reusable container, and try using aluminum instead of plastic.

    youtu.be/pXVmkurTOgM?is=r0lzXo4ugFjDY463

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    • homes@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      yeah, and there was a recent expose about how, on top of the fact that most plastic recycling doesn’t actually reduce overall pollution all that much, a huge amount of state and municipal recycling programs had been subsumed by some massive scam that just offloaded recycling waste to some 3rd-party program that eventually buried it all in landfills or dumped it somewhere anyway.

      the real answer is to stop producing/consuming so much waste (especially petrochemical-based waste) in the first place and to live in more sustainable and less waste-producing systems.

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    • carl_the_grackle@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Heads up: your YouTube link tells shows your channel to everyone who clicks it. This is due to YouTube’s new messaging feature, and how they set the default privacy settings to share your channel with everyone whenever you post a link. You need to remove everything from the ?is= onwards and also turn off the sharing feature if you don’t want everyone on Lemmy getting your profile and the ability to YouTube chat with you

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    • boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Thankfully my country has a deposit system for cans and bottles (except for strong alcoholic drinks for some reason. Beer has deposit, wine, vodka etc do not)

      Most cans get recycled. There’s even hobos looking in communal garbage bins for recyclable containers because although there’s not a lot of money in it, it gets them what food banks don’t.

      I think most of Europe does this but in the rest of the world I’m not sure how much gets recycled or not

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  • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Reduce first, then recycle, yes!

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    • homes@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Reduce, Reuse, and recycle what is left when possible. But avoid, whenever possible, non-reusable containers in the first place.

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  • Widdershins@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I used one for some coffee and a few popsicles and all I got was coffee that tasted awful and had popsicle sticks floating around in it.

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    • homes@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I suggest that you try the coffee and the Popsicles separately next time.

      Also, not so grateful for Popsicles. Better for beverages, generally speaking.

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  • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Just avoid like the plague brands that sponsor World Cups.

    I’ve been doing it since the last one in Qatar and am doing it for the current one too.

    As it so happens, a happy side effect is often that not consuming products of those brands (which are invariably large brands) means you produce less disposable stuff and/or consume more local products. You even end up saving money because you either stop consuming something that you don’t actually need or you replace it with a store brand, and those are cheaper.

    Win-win-win.

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    • homes@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Just avoid like the plague brands that sponsor World Cups.

      IronFlask, the brand I recommended, is not a sponsor of the World Cup.

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  • takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Better yet, stop watching fifa sponsored games and make sure you don’t contribute anything to their revenue.

    Although seems like that’s impossible to a large number of people.

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    • homes@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t watch sports.

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  • nuko147@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Wouldn’t be better if we all stopped recycling and demand the private Jets to be banned with exeptions?

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  • zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Only because of my infant, I was researching proper, reusable bottles. I came across Pura and also ordered one for me. I absolutely love it. Replaceable/interchangable parts, using nothing but stainless steel and medical grade silicone.

    www.purastainless.com

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    • brbposting@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Klean Kanteen’s been another classic stainless option, for decades! kleankanteen.com

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• uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Hank Green actually explained something optimistic after the Blue Origin rocket explosion (here on Youtube), that yes, there are big companies and big billionaires being superfluously wasteful.

  But there are a lot of us recycling our bottles and cans, and when we collectively do this, it makes more of a difference than rockets going boom, and jetsetting billionaires.

  Granted, we need to drastically reduce our ultra-wealthy for a vast myriad of reasons, but we do collectively make a big difference.

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  • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s what posts like this miss— collective action works, be it in collective bargaining, politics, or environmental action. It can be less effective than stronger actors, but it is still very effective. And often is more effective. People also miss that the average output of trash from middle class people is still a bit much.

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    • m0stlyharmless@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Another point is that there are many areas where existing recycling and other environmentally friendly approaches can be greatly improved. For instance, the infinitely recyclable aluminum beverage cans are only recycled at around 43% in the US. Despite any wasteful practices by the ultra-wealthy, this is an area where everyone still must be diligent.

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  • skisnow@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    yeah I really fucking hate how this particular meme format seems to subtly imply we can just stop making an effort. Always downvote whenever I see it.

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    • NikkiDimes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, we could have a world in which we have ultra rich billionaires wasting that of a small African nation on the regular and no one doing anything to try to offset it. I 100% get the defeatism, but it really does no one any good.

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  • huppakee@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You’re right, we can’t afford to either only recycle all our bottles or only drastically reduce our ultra-wealthy.

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    • turtlesareneat@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      When you eat the rich, consider using an eco-friendly fuel

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  • Avicenna@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    yes and no. be a good person do your bit but don’t forget to hold billionaires accountable because they waste resources and fuck up the environment 1000 times more than an average individual and have no qualms about it, nay they enjoy it and sometimes they even try to capitalize on it by acting as if they are on the team green (Taylor Swift). parasites are gonna parasite.

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• some_designer_dude@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The data shows that ae should be recycling the rich into fertilizer.

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  • Napster153@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Feed the CIWS turret.

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    • Dpek@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Spamraam

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• CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Don’t forget about Linus. The quotes on the site are what he said, when he was showing off the jet.

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  • khannie@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    For a minute I thought it was Torvalds and was highly confused.

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    • GreenCrunch@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      How do you think all the commits get reviewed? He’s got to pick them up!

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    • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, I don’t think the guy linked is famous enough to not have the “YouTuber” qualifier.

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  • BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What the hell do they need a private jet for, that has to be a ego purchase, also they have the money for this but not for taking care of their employees, especially the ones getting harassed, I unsubscribed to their channel when they dropped that fake apology video with Advertisement, cant believe they are still profitable

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    • iamthetot@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Everything Linus buys seems like an ego purchase.

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    • CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s basic girl math.

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    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      i glance several thumbnails of his former employees that basically complained about him, although some of them thought they were getting ahead in thier industry/field by working for him.

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  • AbsolutelyClawless@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I haven’t watched LTT in a long time (basically ever since it was publicly obvious the money got to his head and everything that comes with ego), so when I saw somewhere he bought a jet, I first thought it was April Fools. Then after a short research I realized he’s for real. My partner, on the other hand, was convinced I fell for it, and it took me a while to prove him otherwise.

    Absolutely wild what Linus managed to convince (some of?) his fanboys. People will suck off filthy rich assholes like it’s their job.

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    • CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This sentence is wild.

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    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • skisnow@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Is there a word, possibly German, for when you discover that the person you got douchey vibes off for years but couldn’t quite pin down why, is revealed to be exactly what you suspected? I just had flashbacks to Will Smith at the Oscars.

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    • bravesentry@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There is not, at least in german. But german offers us the possibility of making one. I´ll use the Zangendeutsch for douche, “Dusche”, then “Verdacht” for the suspicion, “Bestätigung” for its revelation as true and “Moment” which is german for, well, moment. Put in some suffixes (-en and -s) for grammatical reasons et voila: Duschenverdachtsbestätigungsmoment, a brand new german word meaning “the moment of the confirmation of the suspicion of the douche”.

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    • kilgore_trout@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      LTT has always been a techbro, surrounded by other techbros.

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  • pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Bruh wtf TIL LTT has a private jet

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    • CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      People on youtube defend him for it.

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    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      i felt the controversy last year, made him even more money.

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• schnokobaer@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Today I feel environmentally conscious

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  • PlaidBaron@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Flying is truly one of the worst things an individual can do, carbon emissions-wise. These rich fucks practically fly their private jets to their backyard pools.

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    • Bonsoir@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Achtually, a gas-powered car isn’t that far from an airplane in terms of CO2 emission per kilometer. But planes allow for long distance travels that you would never consider doing by car. It also depends how many people are in the car. Planes also produce more non-CO2 pollutants.
      If you were to choose between driving X km alone in your car or take a plane, both options’ environmental impact would be quite close.

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    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      or to get coffee,or lunch, or fly thier pets.

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• ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So here’s the thing: when the next heatwave struct it’s not Infatino’s kids that will sit in a 40 degree classroom and cry for their moms, your kids will. When the next forest fire raises some village it’s not Infatino that will be left homeless, you will. When drought hits they will not cut water to Inantino’s home, they will cut your water.

  Infantino doesn’t care about his carbon footprint because whatever happens he will be fine. It’s all of us, poor people, that will suffer the consequences. Not limiting your emissions because “the rich are not doing their part” will only hurt you, not the rich.

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  • slaacaa@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So we should hurt the rich? I could get behind that

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    • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes, go for it. They have huge resources they can spend on security and the state will protects them with everything they have but I’m sure you, ordinary citizen, can “hurt” them. And once they are “hurt” they will voluntarily relinquish their wealth and power and start working with you to stop climate change. I’m sure of it.

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  • FinishingDutch@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • Dpek@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The cannister leaked

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• BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There’s not a thing you can do as an individual that will have near the impact of countering the wealthy gross over usage of resources and industrial pollution. It’s a fools errand so don’t try to guilt people who don’t recycle.

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  • Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Once it became clear that a large portion of our recycled waste was just being sold and off shored to poorer countries, I stopped giving a fuck about recycling and stopped doing it.

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    • tmyakal@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The old ad slogan was “Reduce, Reuse, Recycle” in that order because that’s the best order to try for. If you don’t need it, don’t get it. If you do need it, try to use it multiple times. If you can’t use it again, then try to recycle it. But the absolute best thing you can do is not get the thing initially.

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    • BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Only a small percent ends up recycled and there’s some plastics that it’s cost prohibitive to recycle. Aluminum cans is another one I try not to introduce into my life as well. They have better margins for recycling but it’s easier than plastic to not include into your purchase.

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  • Bakkoda@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve worked in manufacturing plants for the last almost 20 years. One packaging line will produce more waste in a day than you can hope to counter.

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    • wallabra@lemmy.eco.br ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And that’s just the packaging part!

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  • LwL@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    800 million people (so just the population of US, CA, and EU) doing small things can absolutely have a larger impact though. Rich bastards do have a vastly larger impact than individual normal people but using that to say “I don’t have to do anything, the others are more at fault” is not helping anyone.

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    • kandoh@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I agree that works for stuff like ‘don’t litter’. But recycling at scale is literally impossible and they knew this when they pushed plastics on us.

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  • doingthestuff@lemy.lol ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Also, hey Europeans, please buy your grandma a little split unit AC to cool her room. It’s not going to destroy life on this planet. But not buying it might kill your grandma.

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  • cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Nothing you can do will move the needle on climate until the billionaire class is exterminated. Their continued existence is an existential threat. By living they kill, kill today and take lives of those still inborn. By existing they forclose the future.

    The great filter exists, and it has a name. Musk. Thiel. Gates. Rockefeller. Exterminate them, or they will exterminate all life.

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• Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Let’s add the flights of the teams. Let’s ask if that is necessary.

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  • zbyte64@awful.systems ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If you’re going to start counting shipping costs for the goods then you should compare thet to Amazon

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• Rentlar@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The heck is Infantino doing in Edmonton and Middle-of-nowhere, Ontario?

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  • BloodMuffin@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Pokémon go

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  • hypnicjerk@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    without more context, i seriously doubt he’s on every one of these flights.

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  • IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And no flying to Toronto, Montreal, or Vancouver? I know for a fact he didn’t drive there from the Webequie First Nation.

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  • lime@feddit.nu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    helping the separatists prolly

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  • gex@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Here’s an actual article showing his flights, it makes more sense than flying to middle of nowhere ontario and middle of nowhere baja california

    www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cgev5wy0zg3o

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• Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Can he at least travel by helicopter?

  They’re much more dangerous…

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• M137@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Recycling is a very local thing, do it instead of leaving the bottle somewhere it can end up in nature. The real choices are what brands you buy from. Never give money to any company that has any connection to people like this.

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• MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Today, work machine gave me suggestions for how the be eco friendly. (Turning off screen after 5 minutes. Sleep mode after 15 minutes)

  All I can think of is how much Microsoft CAN invest in eco mode, but chooses money (or the hope of money in AI) instead.

  also (More Microsoft hate)

  Every time I’m back to work and forced to windows, I get a new problem. This popes up while reading emails Image

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• Bababasti@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Sustainability for thee, not for me.

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  Also, some surprised-thunder-rat-moments here: ferw.eu/fifas-climate-strategy-exposed-greenwashi…

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• altphoto@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  We recycled for that fuck to ride a flying chariot around the world.

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• MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Also, 90% of “recycled” bottles land somewhere in a landfill or the sea.

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• wewbull@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Now total it up for the event as a whole.

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• HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Poor people shouldn’t segregate trash, shouldn’t collect bottles etc.

  Instead cheapest products should be biodegradable, wrapped in something that can’t last shit, transported only by ships and trains. It’s the companies who profit from selling products that should be held responsible for the product eco footprint.

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• cheese_greater@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Every bit helps 💧

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• RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Billionaires are the problem.

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• Zephyr@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Unless any of you has a dope space station or starship we are indeed all stuck with one another here.

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• Quilotoa@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Where did he go in Ontario, Canada? The map has him landing in the middle of one of the least populated areas in N. America.

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• lechekaflan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If he’s just one, there are thousands or so using private executive transport, and these believe they would rather have a presence than trying to use something like Zoom.

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• blackshirt@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So Qatar was way better every stadium is at a 30min drive distance

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• lama@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Why was he going to Merida, Mexico so much?

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