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The house always wins

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  • velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Monopoly was originally called “The Landlord’s Game” and it was invented by a woman in 1903.

    It was meant to illustrate the dangers of unchecked capitalism.

    Then it was stolen by a man and turned into the game we know today.

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    • Saapas@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This is the boardgame version of the Steve Buscemi firefighter fact lol

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      • SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Did you know that in that scene in that movie were the guy kicked that thing he actually broke his toe?

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      • Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Did you know that before chewbaca was cast in star wars, he was a lab test consultant for Laurier

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      • velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s a fascinating story that’s worth a deeper dive if you’re interested.

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    • chuckleslord@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It was meant to illustrate the dangers of unchecked capitalism.

      I mean, yeah, but also no. It was anti-land lord and was advocating Georgism and a land value tax. Georgism includes corporations as victims to land lord hoarding and doesn’t criticize capitalism, per se.

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      • Kanda@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        One change for the better at a time

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    • ___qwertz___@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Her Name was Lizzie Magie and this quote from her holds up:

      “In a short time, I hope a very short time, men and women will discover that they are poor because Carnegie and Rockefeller, maybe, have more than they know what to do with. My people believe that the only way to help working girls is to get rich and give something to the poor. That is just the way not to do it. Working girls want only what they produce. If they get that they will have all they need. They can have silk underwear then.”

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    • mrvictory1@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And the original board was waaaay larger than what we have today

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      • WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They’re beta testing v1.0 but I don’t know if that affects anything

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    • Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      We should make a game based on Monopoly, that gives players options to destroy the system; unionize, give their money to charity (and get more for good appearances), lobby for higher tax rates, etc.

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      • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Let’s call it “Prosperity”!

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      • Wren@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The original version waslike that, it was called “The Prosperity Game” and gave players the ability to vote to change the economics of the board from “The Hoarder Era” to “The Prosperity Era.” prosperitygame.org

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      • HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You should look up the versions No Rolls Barred did on youtube. They get very silly with it.

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  • Rusty@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Does anyone actually like Monopoly? It is the worst board game in existence.

    To me, it’s not even a game, because players don’t make any decisions. You roll a die and go a number of steps, no player agency so far. After that you technically have a decision to buy or not to buy the property. But it is not really a decision, you need to buy it, if you can afford it.

    I believe the main reason people say that they don’t like board games is because the only board game they played is Monopoly.

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    • humorlessrepost@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The reason people hate it is because they don’t follow the rules.

      They put tax money in the center and pretend “free parking” means “payday”.

      They prevent purchases until a lap or two around the board.

      They allow landed-on properties to go unpurchased.

      They allow no-rent agreements between players.

      And then they have the audacity to bitch that the game takes too fucking long.

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      • hansolo@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        100% agree. My family always played strict rules, and the game was always a painful slog. Constant mortgaging properties to afford rent somewhere else, a while game hanging on $11 here and there. The game I played in a mobile home during power outages was about living paycheck to paycheck.

        The first time I saw people do the free parking tax money thing, I thought they were joking. The fuck kind of soft baby game is this? Two times around the board first? Why? Just give $600 more to start, idiots. Why not let the car roll 3 dice or some shit because a car goes faster than an iron?

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      • Naz@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        One of the canon rules is you can’t skip a property sale.

        If a player lands on a property, they earn the right to buy it at cost, or start an auction.

        If they don’t have the money to buy it, they can only auction.

        Other players can buy the property you landed on

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      • psx_crab@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They prevent purchase for 1 lap just so it will truly randomise who get to make the purchase first, instead of just giving it to the people who goes first.

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    • starik@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There is some strategy you’re not thinking of. Too much to go into in one comment. I just played a full 6 hour game with a 9 year old and a 6 year old with ADHD, and they didn’t wonder off once. The game has its charms.

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    • Lucky_777@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Its an RNG fest.

      My wife had dominated rolls. Buying multiple properties. Other players got some, but more of our rolls were railroads, and chance spots. Everyone was bleeding dry. So I finally got the peasants to unite. We had 3 other players basically form a company and rallied to take down the empire. By that time though, it was too late.

      If she had one or two rolls into our meager hotels, maybe things could have turned but never happened. We hit one or two of her properties and that was the final nail. We couldn’t recover.

      The game is pure RNG and don’t let anyone tell you it isnt. You can maybe talk and deal your way to victory if someone doesn’t understand the game, but if everyone is seasoned. It’s who lands on the most properties to chain.

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      • Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah almost pure RNG as you said. Last time I played with 3 others I played as cut throat and by the rules as possible any I still lost because literally nobody ever landed on my maxee out mid tier properties. Like in 10 or so rounds (full board rotations) after maxing it out nobody of the other 3 landed on any of those properties once. And then I went bankrupt by landing on the most expensive tile 3 rounds in a row.

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    • psx_crab@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I remember my friend told me the rule of purchasing property is that once you landed in a property no one owned, you either buy it or be auction off to other player, and then the game end when every property are being purchased, so each player objective is basically get as much property as possible, negotiating with other players for their property so you can own a row of land for upgrading. The game become a slog when people just don’t get property, don’t negotiate, and playing it safe.

      It’s like when playing DOTA and two team decided to just farm critter for gold instead of attempting to reach the objective respectively. It’s called Monopoly, not Money Hoardy

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    • Jarix@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s not the worst game in existence, I own a much worse game called War on Terror. Here it is.Image

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  • blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Quantitative easing

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    • marcos@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Nah, that’s just plain old overnight loans.

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  • imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Printer goes brrr

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Or just do it trump style and steal it from everyone while raping children.

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    • 87Six@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Don’t forget molesting women and funding genocides

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      • osanna@lemmy.vg ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Also don’t forget the eating of people

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  • ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    REVOLUTION! Flips the board

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    • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      In typical fashion, Henry George wasn’t even invited.

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  • tanisnikana@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This should never ever happen unless no one buys anything and everyone spends weeks circling the board. However, income tax undoes about a fifth of all go-passes.

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Raise the [Monopoly] Tax Rate!

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  • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      To be fair those guys are not exactly crying right now.

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  • Mulligrubs@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve been told here on Lemmy that all the US needs to do is print more money.

    Turns out that guy was right! He must work at The Fed or at least be a banker or something.

    I’m sorry for doubting your claims

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    • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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      • FatherPeanut@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        This the type of shit that he’d name “The Trump Dollar”

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  • UnspecificGravity@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Given that “the bank” owns every asset in the board and only pays out a piddly $200 every turn, normal play should pretty much never result in them running out of money.

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    • LapGoat@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      yeah but if nobody gets a monopoly and there’s like max players just circling the board, there isnt anything to pull money out of the player wallets and back into the bank once properties have sold.

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      • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That sounds like one of the deeper circles of Hell.

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  • vathecka@lemmy.radio ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is called quantitative easing, it was started by obama

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    • zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      quantitative easing This is not quantitative easing, not did Obama start the concept. Quantitative easing would be more like players having no money and going around the board doing very little to nothing until the banker decides to start giving out extra money or houses to players to get the game moving again. The common house rule of putting a bunch of money in the middle of the board which can be “won” by landing on free parking could be construed as quantitative easing though.

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    • Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Are you being serious? Lmfao

      Thanks Obama!

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    • Fontasia@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      …soton.ac.uk/…/Translation_Werner_QE_Nikkei_Sep_1…

      1995 from a German economist. The implementation under Obama’s administration (a choice made from a bunch of advisers) was to reduce interest rates by increasing the amount of money.

      All prices in Monopoly are set statically, the income you receive from rent or passing Go does not change based on the money supply, there is no “interest rate” where prices fluctuate based on money supply or movement. $200 is always worth $200. Increasing the supply does not cause quantative easing in Monopoly unless you are the only sober person playing among drunk people.

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      • bitjunkie@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        And now I kind of want to see what a more economically realistic version of Monopoly would look like

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  • reksas@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    i like the communopoly rules better

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