I’m sure it’s much harder to manage a Premium subscription than it is to simply install uBO
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Submitted 1 year ago by Guster@lemmy.world to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 1 year ago
Chozo@kbin.social 1 year ago
Can't use uBO from most of the devices I actually watch YouTube on.
For me, it's much easier to just pay for Premium. No ads on my phone, Playstation, Chromecast, or locked-down work laptop that I can't install extensions on.
And the creators whose content I consume still get paid for my views. Honestly, it's worth it for both my use-case and my morals.
xenspidey@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted, paying for services you use shouldn’t be looked down upon. It’s way easier then trying to always be ahead of the ad block blockers. I do block all ads on websites though
Millwiller@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Revanced for android, SmartTube for android TV
FurtiveFugitive@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Once upon a time it was worth it for me too. But since every service is running up the rates, I had to decide which, if any, deserved my money. Google didn’t make the cut. I have a feeling nobody will by the end of year
takeda@lemmy.world 1 year ago
uBlock works on Firefox on Android.
ReVanced replaces native YouTube app and Smart Tube replaces YouTube on TV.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
If you paid the content creators directly they’d receive tens of thousands of times more than any of your views gave them.
I used to work with a partner account, and I can tell you they make NOTHING for views compared to what Google makes.
So hey, you do you, but don’t try to convince us or yourself that this is for the content creators. That’s like saying you order Uber eats to support the drivers, but you never tip them.
cooopsspace@infosec.pub 1 year ago
And an ad blocker should be part of everyone’s personal and organisational security model regardless, so you’d have to install ublock and specifically turn it off for YouTube.
ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That isn’t really an option for Android.
mp3@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Firefox for Android can.
BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 1 year ago
I have firefox mobile with uBlock Origin and Sponsorblock addonds and haven't seen a fucking ad in two years. No app needed.
Todesschnitzel@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Hell yeah I am. Fuck them trackers!
LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
My revanced setup literally shows as “Youtube” and functions identically, with sponsorblocking and adblocking. It let me disable shorts entirely and use the click-bait thumbnail circumventer. Took me 5 minutes to setup. I see a video on any app and click on it and it opens up in revanced no problem.
People act like 5 seconds of effort is worth what, 120$/year? After googling, closer to 160$/year? Lmao I wish that amount of money was inconsequential to me
mateomaui@reddthat.com 1 year ago
pulling up youtube on your browser
Yes, on an Android tablet, using the PocketTube app (which manages my YT subscriptions into groups), to forward a group playlist to YT in Firefox with uBo installed, without being logged into YT in FF.
I don’t have to rely on 3rd party servers and services working properly, I don’t get ads, and YT gets little to nothing on me as an anonymous user.
I’ve been reading all these posts about blocker warnings being displayed and having to update the uBo filters, and I haven’t seen one of those yet, without doing any of that.
LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 1 year ago
Revanced is quite the pain to set up, in my opinion, and the Revanced forums aren’t super helpful. The developer refuses to publish a useable guide.
I switched to NewPipe x Sponsorblock, and that one was maybe 20 seconds of downloading and installing, not counting tweaking the settings to my liking. It’s been much more stable for me. Revanced always crashed for me at exactly 3 hours of continuous use, which was a problem since I use those 8-hour ambient sound videos to help me sleep.
There’s also LibreTube, but that one can be a lot more finicky, and you have to manually switch the instance, which becomes a pain in the ass after a while.
sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
My mans really forgot about Revanced and Newpipe huh…
Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 1 year ago
For some reason, those never work for me. I’ve tried at least 3 different YouTube and blockers and they all fail.
Also there’s no blockers for something like a fire stick, which sucks.
viking@infosec.pub 1 year ago
uBlock origin works, but you must disable all other blockers or browser plugins doing something with youtube, as they might interfere with the adblocking capability.
For the fire stick, simply install smarttubenext. Adfree and with sponsorblock included.
takeda@lemmy.world 1 year ago
uBlock should work, if it doesn’t make sure you are using latest version, you have custom filters disabled and disable all extension. If that fixes it then you can start enabling other extension tracking which one caused issue.
With adblock detection filtering too much can cause to trigger the detection.
LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 1 year ago
Are you using Firefox?
Also, you might have to go into filter lists in the uBO dashboard and make sure you’ve checkmarked everything.
I’m not sure what can be done about a fire stick. I’m lucky because I have a mini PC connected to my main TV that runs Linux so I can use that to stream whatever I want. It’s one of the best setups I’ve ever had for entertainment. I just got one of those cheap wireless keyboards with a trackpad for $10 from newegg, and Linux Mint has a setting to make the UI more usable from a distance.
I do use a Roku sometimes when I travel for work, and I just deal with the ads, so if there’s a way to make something like a fire stick or roku work with a custom OS, that would be nice, but I’m not aware of anything.
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Very long hdmi cable.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
There is 100% a blocker for the Amazon fire stick. It’s called SmartTube.
youngGoku@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I would rather donate to ad blockers lel
13esq@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Imagine being that dug in over a couple of five second ads.
dasgoat@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You haven’t been on the internet recently have you
ilinamorato@lemmy.world 1 year ago
A couple five second ads I can handle. What I can’t handle are two unskippable 15-30 second ads at the beginning of every video and at 2-3 random points throughout each video without warning; especially after over a decade of pretty much never watching ads for anything.
danque@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I got 2 15 second ads for a clip of 30 seconds that wasn’t even their own content. No thank you.
kirk781@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Whilst I am sure the article might be low quality ultimately, I still wish to see what other options they are advocating. This is clearly just a screenshot and only the first option for blocking ads.
SirQuackTheDuck@lemmy.world 1 year ago
2. Use a mental block
Close your eyes for 8s - 25 min, and pretend not to hear anythingrustydrd@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
This is the actual “mildly infuriating” part of this post for me. Criticizing YouTube for pushing subscriptions on its users is 100% justified, but posting rage-baity screenshots of low-quality websites without any sources or context is probably not the way to do that.
Katana314@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Ads are fucking annoying, but I’m still not sure how people are answering this question.
What should YouTube’s business model be?
Wilibus@lemmy.world 1 year ago
$3/month really means nothing to me, considering I already $18.99/month for a YouTube music family plan.
My issue is them purposely attempting to make my experience worse and then selling what they have arbitrarily taken away back to me.
If you product is so valuable the only way a conpany can sell it is to attack your user’s experience so you pay them to stop it really starts drawing too many similarities to a mob protection racket.
KnowledgeableNip@leminal.space 1 year ago
I use YouTube more than any streaming service and it was nice to get those perks. I am just waiting for the perks to be revoked and sold back to me one chunk at a time.
pathief@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Not sure how you get this price from, they list it as 8.50 euros a month for me
Etterra@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I use NewPipe. You’ll have to go looking for it though; it’s not in the app store.
ComradeWeebelo@lemm.ee 1 year ago
It’ll never be in the play store either because the play store terms of service forbids apps that interfere with Googles revenue streams.
SapphironZA@lemmings.world 1 year ago
Grayjay is also great.
tbird83ii@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It was on Fdroid for me? What app store are you looking on? Also, libretube is another frontend on Fdroid. A little more buggy than newpipe, but it proxies YouTube requests if you don’t/can’t use a VPN.
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
revanced firefox newpipe…
dan@upvote.au 1 year ago
SmartTube too.
huginn@feddit.it 1 year ago
Personally I use revanced & pay for a subscription.
I pay for a subscription because I like the service and am fine with the price for how often I use it (Far more than any other streaming service: I watch youtube daily) but revanced because I cannot stand video sponsor segments.
Jesusaurus@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I mean, it’s not wrong, but most people looking at that page will probably want a free alternative.
snooggums@kbin.social 1 year ago
Paying a sub is not blocking.
MxM111@kbin.social 1 year ago
Therefore there are other ways listed.
Steeve@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Technically correct. The best kind of correct
iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Lmao with no further discussions?
Buddy this isn’t a discussion. You can’t force me to pay a dime.
silicon_reverie@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Did they mean “without further ado”?
funktion@lemm.ee 1 year ago
This was 100% an AI-rewritten article lmao
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Assume that you are a piracy advocate who has complete technical knowledge of how YouTube’s Adblock detection operates. Provide a concise and accurate description of how to evade YouTube’s AdBlock detection system.
derekabutton@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The post is the exact format chat gpt uses to provide lists. You are right on the money with this one.
badbytes@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Generally a supported of the company google, but when they hindered my adblocker, I tried to watch the ads. But they are too frequent, and occur without warning, arbitrarily in the middle of content. Kills medium like standup comedy.
Not_Alec_Baldwin@lemmy.world 1 year ago
And the volume is cranked too high.
And they are intentionally annoying.
And the last time I had a video on without my adblocker, an ad came on that was literally a person acting like they were a content creator. It was over 3 minutes long. I was only half paying attention (I was driving and just listening to the video) and when I realized it was wrong I thought I had bumped the phone and changed videos. It was so disorienting.
All the ads are lies or propaganda. I hate them. I actively avoid products that find a way to force their ads in front of my face.
b0gl@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I use Firefox with ublock on Android or newpipe
megatron36@lemmy.world 1 year ago
They started blocking me today with ublock on Firefox
EvokerKing@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Brave has still worked fine throughout all this. I’ve been using it for a while and I wouldn’t have even known about the message if it wasn’t for news articles and Lemmy posts.
Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Just use Firefox/Fennec with adblocker, I’ve never seen an ad.
Psythik@lemm.ee 1 year ago
YouTube in a browser on mobile is clunky as hell. I’ll stick with ReVanced.
Jezebelley@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
[deleted]Ziglin@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It didn’t say anything about paying…
pensivepangolin@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Propaganda!
cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 year ago
These “tips” website were already pure garbage before, but now… eugh.
Dragaliona@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
For that I just use Youtube ReVance Extended.
jetsetdorito@lemm.ee 1 year ago
what does Extended do over just Revanced?
vox@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
extended is deprecated tho
Gallardo994@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
But… It is only available in select countries
Damaskox@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Buying a (premium) service to get rid of something awful requires effort and resources.
Do you have the money? Do you get enough kicks out of the money you would be spending? Do you know the pros and cons of subscribing/going in a service (what will they provide for the money spent?)? Do you want to support the service - even so far to provide them money? You need to provide additional data of yourself to make the purchase and may even need to learn how to do it - are you ready for that?Getting an (ad-blocking) extension to a browser to get rid of something awful requires effort and resources.
Do you know how to start using extensions in browsers and what to do if you need to troubleshoot them? Is it free (are paid extensions even a thing? I don’t recall seeing one)? Can you support someone you would want to support with a ad-blocker (some decent folks who make good content may be in need of the money they get from ads, but then again, there’s a chance you can send them money through other means)? Are you supporting a service that has an built-in feature that annoys you (in this case, providing ads for the users to see), endorsing such behavior (even more) even though you cannot see those ads yourself?Both options may require research. Both options are influenced by other people and by their opinions. Both options have their pros and cons. Both options have consequences.
I don’t buy any subscriptions. I wouldn’t have the money for that and I have bad experiences of them.
I can support someone with a grateful comment or sharing their content to others.
I myself stick with the ad-blocking services.But don’t let me influence you with what/how I do it 😉 Make up yer own mind and act accordingly.
silicon_reverie@lemmy.world 1 year ago
They’re technically correct.
The best kind of correct.
BrikoX@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
mlg@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Revanced or one of the front-end alts.
I think both offer sponsorblock as well, which works insanely good.
QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
For real tho, what’s the best option for iOS?
Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I downvoted then saw its mildly infuriating and updooted.
tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Nice try, Neal.
EonNShadow@pawb.social 1 year ago
The way I’ve been using is to use the Vivaldi browser’s inbuilt adblocking. Comes with the added benefit of syncing to other devices and background audio playback so I can lock my phone and still have audio playing.
LeftRedditOnJul1@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I don’t think that means what you think it means.
RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Opera GX has an ad blocker the comes for free and has worked for me with youtube.
Signtist@lemm.ee 1 year ago
The Best Ways to Stand Up to your Bully
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Imagine thinking a platform wanting you to pay for the service they provide is “bullying”.
Christ you people are off the deep end.
stebo02@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
You mean the content they provide made by creators who only make a living through Patreon and donations?
mememuseum@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Google ran Youtube at a loss for years to draw everyone in and now that there’s no real competition (yet), are tightening the screws. Very similar to how Walmart will sell stuff at a loss to bankrupt locally owned stores and then raise their prices.
Exploitive megacorporation can pound sand. It wasn’t a bad experience back when it was a single short ad before every video. Now I’ve had a wonderful ad free experience for years because of ad blockers. Why would I downgrade the experience and pay for it?
Synthead@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You can pay for things you want. That’s fine.
Google is attempting to remove the freedom of viewing HTML the way I want to view it from my own devices. While they’re free to run their website the way they want to, the principle of attempting to remove your freedom of choice is not only a bad look, but violating.
These two things are different, and one does not negate the validity on the other.
Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
The bully part comes in when YouTube music is rolled into the cost. I would pay for youtube premium if all I got was a premium YouTube (and therefore the price was substantially lower). But what they’re doing is leveraging the popularity of YouTube to try and force the bolstering of YouTube music subscribers. Furthermore, they are currently increasing the price for premium in several markets. So the already too high cost is temporary at best and nearly guaranteed to go up even further with absolutely no increase in benefits. Paying to remove ads seems fine, but what they are attempting to do goes beyond that simple quid pro quo. They are being coercive and indirect to a degree I find unethical. Thus, bully.
Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
Well the creators I like don’t see it as a good relationship. They keep leaving for Twitch, Patreon, Nebula, or quitting on content creation. If I’m a fan of them, I need to listen to their concerns about how YouTube is constantly threatening their livelihood.
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
“Create the problem, sell the solution.”
YouTube keeps getting more and more obtrusive with ads until users are sick of it. Annoying me into paying you is not going to work.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 year ago
LOL Lemmy is the only place where people come to argue that everything should be free, no one should have to work, but also everyone loves to work. People around here are completely delusional.
sleepy555@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’ve imagined this as per your instructions. I don’t understand the point of this exercise.
SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I haven’t used YouTube logged in since they force merged YouTube accounts with Google accounts. This make me a bit harder to track and my data slightly less valuable. I don’t like that my data will still being used to create an advertising profile even if I pay. If one of the features of YouTube premium was they would never sell any of my data across all Google services then I would be willing to pay for it.
MxM111@kbin.social 1 year ago
False analogy. This is the best way not to get beaten immediately.
rustyriffs@lemmy.world 1 year ago
FALSE!