visited a friend’s family reunion and met his chiropractor uncle. dude said he could cure diabetes and cancer.
he could barely pronounce diabetes. I will never ever understand chiropractor quackshit.
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mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
In most cases, it seems like temporary relief. Like when your bigger, older brother picks you up and cracks your back. Feels great in the moment, but not a long-term fix.
stickyprimer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I understand chiro quack shit the same way I understand crystals and essential oils quack shit. It’s all just quack shit.
What I don’t understand is why insurance actually pays for chiro, at least sometimes.
backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
I watch ASMR to fall asleep and quackery of all kinds is very relaxing to me. I’ve noticed that chiro and chakra/aura reading/crystal and herb touching all have the same vibe. The difference is that chiro sells itself as medical, uses a lot more scientific sounding jargon in a professional looking office, where aura stuff is mystical and spiritual with candles, incense, and mandala tapestries. It’s woo-woo for people who think woo-woo is beneath them.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
yeah never understood how it flies under the radar of quackery
whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
In my experience it was for old insecure guys who were uncomfortable going to a massage or doing any structured stretching regularly so they’d get an adjustment from a quack a few times a year instead.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
plausible!
Aeri@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Regularly scheduled warning but chiropractor is not a real doctor and can paralyze you for life.
The_Almighty_Walrus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Also the guy who invented it learned the practice from a ghost during a seance
thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
you’re fucking with me, right?
Comrade_Spood@quokk.au 2 weeks ago
You can also go to a Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine (DO) who is an actual doctor and will crack your back in scientifically backed ways.
TransNeko@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
regularly scheduled reminder that real Chiropractors are highly trained and not paid extra money to prescribe you a medication that has a warning label that includes the very minor side effects of… may cause: dizziness, nausea, rashes, cancer, and a mild case of death.
DragonAce@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Chiropractors are not doctors in any shape or form. There is no scientific data to backup the idea that popping random joints somehow cures illnesses. They’re nothing more than snake oil salesmen who have no clue WTF they’re actually doing.
expr@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Who are these mythical “real chiropractors” that you speak of?
It’s pseudoscience, and always has been.
shane@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
A highly trained phrenologist still cannot diagnose personality problems by feeling bumps on your head.
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Bullshit. Chiropractors cannot prevent or cure any disease or condition. They can help you manage lower back pain. That’s it.
Thanks to immunotherapy, I am now four and a half years cancer free. See if a chiropractor can do that.
Tetragrade@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
Ok your comment may have been dumb, but for $50 I’ll remove all the evil ghosts from your keyboard, and maybe you won’t get downvoted next time. Deal?
Cheesus@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Is that another name for physical therapy?
Back in my old city, which has a large Chinese population, I went to a physical therapist a few times for a hurt back. The staff didn’t really speak English, but it was covered by workers compensation so I gave it a go. Those people were absolute magicians, I tell ya. I’m not exactly sure what they were doing, as I was almost always laying face down, but I’m pretty sure it involved needles, and they definitely did some electroshock therapy, but boy did it work great. I just let them do their thing, and it really seemed to help along the healing process.
Aeri@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Massotherapy is like deep tissue massage and stuff. If I understand correctly it’s basically just really advanced actually medical based massage that people get licensed for. I’m just going off of memory though you might get better mileage out of actually looking it up.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
i was in the hospital and just had had a few major organs removed. a chiro i had never met but who went to the same cult as my parents walked into my hospital room unannounced and started lecturing me about how i would have been able to keep my organs if i’d let him give me a spinal adjustment.
my friends, a chiropracter was saved by an orderly that day.
D_C@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Flip side:
Woke up in agony. I couldn’t walk without aid. Why to GP, “it’s sciatica. It’ll be ok in a few weeks. Two months at most”
6 months later and I can’t walk still.
Hospitals did the scans, X-rays, MRI, etc etc, but found nothing wrong. They did acupuncture, physio, hydrotherapy etc.
All slightly helped. However two years later I still couldn’t walk without help and then just kept on offering me pain killers.
Nope!!My mate, “Hey, try my new chiro guy. He did wonders for me”
Me, “Lol, quacks.”
My mate, “What have you got to lose?”
Me, “Money…”
…
Mate, “Hey, told my chiro guy about you. He said pop in. The first month is free. If no improvement after then you go separate ways. What have you got to lose?”Long story short.
On that first appointment he said he thought it was piriformis syndrome. Not back problems.
Within a month I was sitting almost pain free for the first time in two years. Within 3 months I was walking unaided for the first time in years. In 6 months I was running again.
Within a year I was 95% of what I was before the back issues. I’ll never be 100% because it wasn’t diagnosed in time and everything had ‘healed’ incorrectly.Now, with that said, the guy was more than a chiro. He did sports body mechanics, and other things that I can’t remember now. He worked with the local lower league football squad for about ten years. And whilst they were no Manchester United they wouldn’t just let any quack work on their team.
Plus in the UK chiro’s have to be registered and follow guidelines. If they do anything illegal they are fucked.
Flip side to my flip side:
The mother in law went to a chiro who said he could cure her spine curvature disorder. Anyways I find out when she’s complaining of (extra) back pain, so I tell her to stop going as the guy is obviously a dodgy bastard. Within the year the guy was arrested for his illegal shenanigans.W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
He did sports body mechanics, and other things that I can’t remember now.
Ok, so he had more training than most US chiropractors.
zikzak025@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It sounds more like you didn’t see what the US would consider a “chiropractor”, but rather an orthopedics/sports medicine specialist. Maybe he was just advertising as a chiropractor to attract clients or maybe your buddy was confused about his credentialing?
Chiropractors don’t need to be licensed or registered with anything in the US. It’s all pseudoscience mumbo-jumbo.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
let me tell you the first illegal thing the chiro did the day i saw him
walk into a hospital he was unaffiliated with.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Chiropractors in the US don’t have medical degrees
ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
There’s a lot of international folks here getting downvoted because
AMERICAN CHIROPRACTORS ARE QUACKS.
Can we please step out of our American bubble for a fucking second to realise there is whole world out there of real healthcare.
In the vast majority of the world Chiropractors are exactly the same as Osteopaths and Physios, they have to go to the same schools, lectures, have the same training. They are purely musculoskeletal. Why they are insane in America is anyone’s guess. But this is a problem with America, not Chiropractors.
That said, this is fucking hilarious and I have sent it to a friend to take the piss.
Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Chiropractics literally started as an alternative to germ theory. The quackery was baked in from the start. They may couch their quackery in medical jargon now in some places but I’ve yet to see stats where people who went to chiropractors did better than people that went to massages or physical therapy.
Example from Australia last year:
ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Cases like this should obviously be taken seriously, as it was here. But it doesn’t invalidate the whole field any more than it does for medicine, physiotherapy etc.
In this case, the woman went against medical advice, and did not tell the chiropractor about her injury or give him her notes. This is why it was recommended to be standard practice to request them. This chiropractor was also clearly an idiot.
These types of cases happen all the time with all medical professionals, it would be disingenuous to suggest otherwise. In fact, here, it also happened with the paramedics.
chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Since Chiropractic medicine was invented in America by a spiritualist quack, I would say trying to use the same name for valid medical practices in another country is the mistake of whoever decided that was ok to do. It’s like saying yes, wizardry is bullshit in America, but in many other countries it’s a valid form of pharmacology. Just call it the valid term that has regulations.
ywain@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Massive amount of misinformation, every country has a protected name and registration for real medical jobs. Chiropractic stuff is a US pseudoscience and a negative impact on patients the same as homeopathy.
LillyPip@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
They’re insane in the US because the fucking weirdo cult leader who started US chiropracty based on his dreams about literal ghosts was fucking insane.
It has nothing to do with medicine, and it should be illegal to impersonate medicine like that. It’s shameful.
Everyone who has been swindled by it should file a class-action suit, since that seems to be the only recourse.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
AFAIK it’s the same in Germany too. Unregulated. I could just go and call myself a chiropractor, trying my best to fuck you up.
yabbadabaddon@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
No. This is wrong. I would like you to update your post to not spread wrong medical information :
- Chiropractic is based on pseudoscience en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiropractic
- Ostheopathy is based on pseudoscience en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathy
- Physiotherapy is an evidence based medical discipline proven to be effective by a lot of studies en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_therapy
Everybody can be a chiropractor or a osteopath. I could even open a private school to teach both without even learning them. Same as acupuncture. If I want to be a physiotherapist, I need a university degree.
ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This is Americentric. In Sweden it is different: sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiropraktik
ickplant@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yup. And I should say you can find good ones in the U.S., you just never know.
Mine was from New Zealand and worked with one of their Olympic teams. She never cracked my neck but gently massaged and manipulated it to release a whiplash injury after a car accident.
For every one of her, there are 20 quacks who claim they can cure cancer with foot baths.
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Doctor Glaucomen or whatever is his name has a lot of interesting content on bonebros.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The “chiropractors” in other countries that aren’t quacks, are simply a mistranslation of some sort of real medical field. Anyone in an English speaking country called a chiropractor is at best an amateur masseuse scamming people and at worst a dangerous cultist.
Fizz@lemmy.nz 2 weeks ago
I had a bit of back gain and I went to a chrio once and this tiny Asian women beat the living shit out me. I swear she elbow dropped onto my spine. It made my back so sore I was unable to move for 3 days. I called to tell them it had gotten significantly worse and they replied that means its working come back for another session. I never returned and it healed up perfectly fine.
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I have known a few chiropractors. Two were decent naturopaths who were also nutritionists, physical therapists, and masseuses. Whole body and nervous system health. Never cracked or popped a joint.
The third charges $35 bucks, no insurance needed, and just pops your middle back and gropes you. Absolute worst and he bought the business from one of the first.
Good chiros are about nervous systems. Bad chiros, the vast majority, are witch doctors selling bunk cures.
Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
nutritionists
Just a heads up, but anyone can call themselves a nutritionist. It is not a protected term. You don’t have to pass any exams. The only thing you need is to be interested in the subject.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutritionist
The actual professional term is dietitian.
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Yeah I was using common nomenclature. I don’t recall if they were licensed dietitians or not.
The one sold supplements and vitamin tinctures his wife made, so they weren’t far off from the unlicensed category. But they were both also licensed/certified physical therapists and masseuses. He had done some kind of sports medicine if I recall correctly before starting his business.
The other guy was really into the whole gambit of chinese herbology and such, but he kept himself grounded with physical therapy regimens and promoting tai chi every other sentence.
themaninblack@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Good chiros aren’t chiros.
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I mean, that’s kind of the implication.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
The inventor of chiropracty said that a ghost taught it to him during a seance. Yes, really, I’m not making that up.
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Yeah I think he also said he fixed a deaf janitors hearing by popping a neck vertebrae into alignment, if I remember the lore. This was ‘drink heroin for medicine’ era too.
BanaramaClamcrotch@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Maaan, I just don’t trust doctors. Not in a “you’re injecting microchips into my bloodstream so bill gates can control my mind” type of way. Rather a “you are another facet of the capitalist society a getting caught in the healthcare system is like getting caught in the justice system. Once you’re in, you’re in” type of way.
andros_rex@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I really wanted to become a doctor when I was in college, so I went to pre med meetings.
You are not going to be a doctor if you have to work in college. No, you need to have time to “volunteer” at the right places and scribe. Don’t take challenging classes, because your GPA needs to be perfect.
The US artificially suppresses the number of doctors who can enter the work force every year - doctors have lobbied to keep the number of residencies and thus admissions to medical school low. And these rich fuckers are going to go into dermatology or other high paying fields, while family doctors in rural America are non existent.
BanaramaClamcrotch@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Yea that’s pretty wild and sort of goes to show what I’m talking about. I just don’t trust ‘em. How could you possibly care about every single one of your patients individually? I feel like it would drive any sane person crazy to see all these people that you personally care about suffering or worse? It’d be terrible! I’m not saying that doctors don’t care, I’m saying they must be able to, like, turn it off. Treat people more as customers rather than people you are compassionate for.
ickplant@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Can’t blame you. There are good doctors out there who hate the capitalist system and the insurance companies, but they still have to work within that system.
BanaramaClamcrotch@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
For sure, I’m not necessarily blaming individual doctors, per se. It’s complicated lol.
LillyPip@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Quacks are worse.
hakunawazo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
With a professional the difference is like day and night.
Imagediabetic_porcupine@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Well, what have we learned?
Digit@lemmy.wtf 2 weeks ago
Beware the iatrogenic death dealers, and the cowboy-chiropractors both.
ZC3rr0r@piefed.ca 3 weeks ago
I mean, the chiropractor is technically correct. You’ll say goodbye to a lot of things, including IBS.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
Cured of all ailments, including the terminal illness known as “life.”
Gullible@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
So, ibs has an unknown cause, right? Does it persist indefinitely in donated organs or does it eventually subside? I might have it, albeit undiagnosed, so I got curious as I’m an organ donor
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
IBS is doctor speak for “we don’t know what’s wrong and we give up, but we recognize you have symptoms”
unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
You can get feces transplanted to treat a c. diff infection. Like, you swallow a pill made from human shit and it can help you. So if you need the whole ass organ transplanted, you need that.
LillyPip@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
You might be left with only IBS. In a hospital bed and not able to control your bowels.