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• TransNeko@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  correction: chiropractors are not backed by studies funded by people who own companies that require you to pop pills for long periods of time.

  remember that. and stop burying your heads in the sand like republicans do. it’s a sad and pathetic look for you.

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  • ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The inventor of chiropractic practices literally said that a ghost taught it to him during a seance. Please educate yourself.

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    • TransNeko@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And the origin of doctors thought that draining the body of blood helped cure any and all illnesses. and the origin of most surgeries used today were developed by a Nazi who experimented on Jews.

      educate yourself.

      it’s sad how many idiots think that an origin of a particular activity decides whether or not you should use it.

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      • angrystego@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Chiropractors still use the ghost-taught tricks. Doctors moved on to use scientifically proven practices. They are not the same.

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  • DragonAce@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Found the unlicensed chiropractor. Get bent dude. Chiropractors have caused more pain and suffering to people than they have ever helped. They’re nothing more than glorified physical therapists.

    Also its a pretty pathetic look for you that you have to make this political.

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    • TransNeko@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      found the idiot who thinks that anyone supporting real facts is a fake.

      taken straight from a medical journal funded by real medical research not RFK style research (aka not from the hacks that say that vaccines and pills created autism) for orthopedics: Chiropractic care is an evidence based effective option for spine and joint injuries.

      the only hack Chiropractors O have found are a bunch of Americans. Every other country in the world recognizes both chiropractors and alternative medicine as valid options. but I wouldn’t expect a fake leftist like you who gets his facts from Fox News to know the difference between fact and propaganda.

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• Kage520@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Not to defend chiropractors or anything, but they legitimately have a doctorate degree and are given the title Chiropractic Physician.

  Whether their studies they do in school are nonsense, they do get a degree for it. So they are technically doctors in some shape or form.

  Honestly there is likely some small value in what they do, but that small value has almost definitely been absorbed into the Doctor of Osteopathy (actually medical doctor-like role), so I don’t see the need for them. Definitely think physical therapists are much more beneficial.

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• eupraxia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  this is my general impression too, the origins of the practice is kinda bunk and it’s probably not worth the risk for a lot of people.

  that being said, there are individual chiros out there that do good work. The main person I go to for non-chiro bodywork, who really knows her shit, sees a chiro and highly credits them for her recovery from pretty severe spinal issues.

  but generally speaking there’s other alternative therapies I’d recommend over seeing just any random chiro. Acupuncture can be a game changer, craniosacral work is great for some people too, and both of those are a lot less focused on manual adjustment, lowering the risk significantly.

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  • andros_rex@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Acupuncture can be a game changer, and is starting to become less “alternative” as some PTs offer “dry needling” now.

    Why would you let someone who doesn’t believe in germ theory put needles in your body?

    There is no evidence justifying acupuncture.

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    • eupraxia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You’ll find more study in the West of “dry needling”, a technique directly inspired by acupuncture. Here’s one recent review.

      I see an acupuncturist because she’s good at what she does, does believe in germ theory, practices in a sanitary way, and doesn’t claim to cure illnesses. These are the norms for modern licensed acupuncturists. I’m not saying every acupuncturist out there is like this, hokey grifters do exist in alt medicine spaces, and that’s kind of my whole point. It really depends on the practitioner.

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      • andros_rex@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Many of those studies in that meta analysis show limited short term effects.

        Because there is no widely accepted sham protocol for DN research, researchers should incorporate cognitive influences that extend beyond the mimicking of tactile sensations to create a believable simulation of active dry needling.

        I also think there’s a serious question about what sham/placebo dry needling would be, and if inconsistent standards could impact results.

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  • Echolynx@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Craniosacral

    “Craniosacral therapy (CST) or cranial osteopathy is a form of alternative medicine that uses gentle touch to feel non-existent rhythmic movements of the skull’s bones and supposedly adjust the immovable joints of the skull to achieve a therapeutic result. CST is a pseudoscience and its practice has been characterized as quackery.[1][2] It is based on fundamental misconceptions about the anatomy and physiology of the human skull and is promoted as a cure-all for a variety of health conditions.[3][4][5]”

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    • eupraxia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m significantly less convinced by the supposed mechanics of craniosacral therapy - adjustment of the fused cranial joints in particular - but more generally, gentle rhythmic manipulation of lumbar fascia and neurofascia is something I don’t see often in traditional deep tissue massage and subjectively it’s had surprising effect, especially when done by someone who specializes in it. There are a lot of important nerve connections in both areas that gentle, surface-level manipulation can affect. The aspects of craniosacral therapy that are probably bunk are at least not going to hurt you, unlike chiropractic. I am interested to see if some of the basic manipulation techniques are integrated into other modalities in the future, even though their origin doesn’t hold up to scrutiny.

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