Veganuary

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• Turret3857@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  this feels like a strawman. I dont think anyone is going vegan to lose weight. 99% of people you see talk about it do it for ethical reasons.

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  • sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah but I did it for ethical reasons and ended up gaining weight very quickly lol

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  • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The vegan I knew in college actually warned people about weight gain while she was pushing her veganism on us. “Its hard not to replace everything with carbs” was basically her spiel.

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    • Urist@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There’s nothing wrong with carbs. Most of what I eat is carbs.

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    • KernelTale@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I did lose 10kg in 4 months when I cut a heavy portion of meat from my diet but that was because I was basically eating once a day and when I was still hungry in the evening I had rice with corn afterwards. I was not broke but cheap and keeping my fridge empty made it less likely to take something out of nothing.

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  • AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There’s often a confusion between people who go “whole-food plant-based” for personal health reasons, and people who go vegan which is about animal’s rights. Of course a person can want both too.

    In any case, people who adopt more plant-centric diets do often see a reduction is bodyweight, but it’s not guaranteed. As the pic up top shows, it can still be very easy to have an unhealthy lifestyle even if it is plant-based.

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  • udon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It was a major motivation for me at the time, but mostly in the sense of forcing me to radically change my diet

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  • anomnom@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Bill Clinton did it to, though I think his doctor basically said he was dead if he didn’t.

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  • rapchee@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    i was in a “new vegan converts” fb group and a number of people stated they went vegan for vague “health benefits” and/or weight loss, they certainly exist

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• Passerby6497@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Snackatarian

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• JetpackJackson@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I know this is a shitpost, but how do you get all your nutrients on a vegan or vegetarian diet? I’m considering reducing my meat intake but am worried about the nutrient thing

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  • corvi@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You can pretty much survive on black beans and onions. You’re unlikely to be lacking most nutrients in a first world country, even eating tons of junk food.

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    • sundray@lemmus.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Red beans and rice is a good dish that will give you vital protein.

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    • sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Corn, beans, and squash is technically a viable diet and was used by a few native american groups for centuries. Its a full protein and very nutritionally dense.

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    • SlurpingPus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Legumes and cereals both have protein, but they both lack some amino acids, while the body needs them in a certain proportion. However, they complement each other in regard to which of the essential amino acids they have, so one should eat both.

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    • baconsunday@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Don’t forget tofu! And oatmeal! Powerhouses!

      I get super firm tofu and use half the block in an orange chicken and rice dish. The tofu block is 72g in protein, so halving that gets me a solid chunk of protein to end the day.

      Also, don’t forget, spy and almond milk are fortified and have higher calcium than real milk.

      Lastly, if youre feeling down about not finding b12, redbull has 1200% of your daily b12 vitamins lol! Not the healthiest advise at the end, but still haha

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    • SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Also seaweed for Taurine.

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  • 9blb@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There are no nutrients that are exclusively available via meat/dairy. The only thing you might miss out on is B12, but that’s usually supplemented in a lot of the vegan substitutes/junk food alternatives already. Anything else you’ll get pretty easily by simply eating your regular veggies, beans, legumes etc.

    If you truly care about nutrients, then get your blood tested and have them check what you are actually lacking, and then adjust or supplement your diet accordingly. Chances are that you are already low on something even when eating animal products.

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    • JetpackJackson@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Thanks for the advice, iirc I got my blood tested when I was doing some allergy tests so I’ll look at those and see what my levels were. I do know that I’m low on vitamin d cause I take a supplement for that

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    • tar@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There are no nutrients that are exclusively available via meat/dairy.

      that’s not true

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    • RedMari@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Exactly. Can get everything but b12 from plants. Can’t get fiber without plants though.

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  • Danquebec@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Protein: legumes (beans, lentils, peanuts, chickpeas, tofu and other solid soy products)

    Calcium: enriched plant milks (convenient) or cruciferous leaves and flowers (healthy) such as collards, kale, or broccoli. Tofu is a good source too.

    Iron: eat vitamin-C rich food with your meals, such as bell peppers, lemon/lime juice on your food, or drink orange juice.

    B-12: you must supplement, either with gummies, enriched plant milk or processed vegan products (vegan sausages, vegan “turkey” slices, etc.)

    A vitamin: carrots, cruciferous leaves and flowers (see calcium), squash, cantaloup. Eat with fatty food for better absorption. Eg. Minestrone soup (kale and olive oil)

    Omega-3 : tofu is a good source. Flaxseed oil has enough in a teaspoon – it works well on salads. Some nuts are a good source too.

    Please visit veganhealth.org for more information. This site is authored by a registered dietetician.

    nutritionfacts.org is great too.

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    • Saurok@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I just want to add that B-12 is often missing from or low in many omnivores’ diets too, not just vegans. Another good source of B-12 is nutritional yeast. It’s like an umami flavored (some people call compare it to cheese, but I don’t really think it has a cheese taste and don’t want to disappoint anyone) powder that you can add to whatever you want. Works really well incorporated in a recipe or just sprinkled on top of stuff.

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    • JetpackJackson@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Thank you!!

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  • uniquethrowagay@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If you plan to reduce your meat intake, you don’t have to consider anything, really.

    If you plan to eat fully vegan, you should look up B12 supplements and make sure to get some proteins (beans, lentils, tofu etc). The whole nutrition thing is not as big a problem as you think it is, though. If you’re unsure, maybe get a blood test done after a few months.

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  • flamingos@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Vitamin B12 is the main one that’s hard to get. It’s not really natural to any foods apart from animal products.

    Iodine is also a tough one. Though you’re probably deficient in this anyway depending on how much sea food and dairy milk you eat. Technically iodine isn’t natural to milk, but we feed iodine supplements to dairy cattle.

    You can get enough of both of these by drinking enough fortified plant milks, but it’s like half a litre a day and idk I find that’s just a lot.

    I’m personally just lazy and take supplements, the Vegan Society here in the UK do ones that are affordable and have everything you need in them. If you live far enough north or south you should be taking vitamin D supplements anyway, at least during the winter.

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    • Wilzax@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Nutritional Yeast is a good savory seasoning that supplements b12

      Iodized salt is a good source of iodine and doesn’t really taste different from the fancy salts when it’s dissolved in a sauce or stock, so use it as your cooking salt and you’ll be fine

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  • Zagam@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Its not that hard. Gorillas are vegan, they do fine. So are my goats.

    i quit meat a bunch of years ago, I try to eat a varied diet, and try to mix greens and grains. I get a check up about once a year and all my blood work comes back fine.

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    • CottonSeed@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      gorillas are not vegan. they eat their butt cookies (an animal product), and they eat bugs. but besides that, veganism is an ethical stance, and there is no proof they have ever considered the ethics of animal exploitation.

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  • toxicbubble@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    vitamins, nutritonal yeast

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  • Dicska@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    About 5-6 years ago I did the same thing. I’m still a shameless omnivore, but I managed to reduce my meat consumption significantly. Around 2024 (so several years after I started) I had to get my blood analyzed. The only thing they found was my lack of vitamin D, but I live in a country with minimal sun exposure, so it’s a thing here anyway.

    Note that I still eat meat, but way less often than before. I started with a maximum of two meaty days per week (no cap on meat those days), but not as a fixed schedule: I just allowed myself when I really craved it, but not more than 2 days a week. Can be 1 or 0.

    Fast forward to the end of 2023, when I started thinking about when I last had meat, and I couldn’t remember. It wasn’t quite hard, to be honest: there are awesome veggie meals around, and I still eat dairy and eggs whenever.

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  • mootny@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Iirc just rice and beans cover all essential amino acids so nothing to worry about. Obviously, in the real world scenario the diet will be more varied than that with veggies and grains and stuff so the vitamins/fatty acids will be covered as well. If you want to get real numbers there are apps for this, for example Chronometer - pretty cool. So overall I’d say don’t worry about it, just eat enough and different foods, supplement with B12 and check the bloodwork yearly.

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  • exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I eat about 3000 calories per day, but generally limit my meat intake to about 500 calories per day, while trying to hit at least 150g of protein per day. Generally that means I’m eating a vegetarian lunch, where the only animal product is parmesan cheese (gives a great umami kick to salads).

    I eat a lot of legumes. Not just beans/lentils, but also a lot of green varieties like green beans, peas, edamame, snap peas, snow peas, and peanuts are like my go-to snack.

    When paired up with grains, which you’ll generally already be eating enough of, the protein profile of most legumes complement grains so that you’re getting plenty of every essential amino acid.

    And generally, I eat a lot of vegetables and mushrooms. On a per calorie basis, some vegetables are surprisingly high protein.

    I eat a decent amount of yogurt or cheese, maybe 3-4 servings per day.

    The meat I do eat tends to be the kind that lends a lot of flavor to a dish. 1 oz of bacon in a sandwich sometimes seems meatier than another sandwich with 8 oz of meat. Same with things like fish sauce or anchovy paste. I have a lot of soups and stews where the actual amount of meat involved is kinda low on a per serving basis, where the fresh meat is paired with a cured meat and things like mushrooms and fermented sauces to add lots of umami to a soup without actually consisting of that much meat. I also do stir fries, curries, salads, etc., where any meat is served with a lot of vegetables, as well.

    So for example, it’s easy to eat a pound of meat in 2 half pound hamburgers. It’s much harder to eat a pound of meat in the form of burgers made from 3 oz smash patties. And smash burgers taste better to me anyway.

    Basically I steer all my eating towards less meat, but I eat a lot and have pretty high caloric needs.

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  • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Eat the rainbow.

    But you can ease in. Replace one of your meat dishes with a chickpea or lentil or bean dish.

    And be careful with the fiber at first. If you jump straight into a high fiber diet, you’re gonna shit yourself for a few days.

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      or not shit yourself at all if it’s the wrong fiber. it is easy to fuck yourself up badly with fiber

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    • JetpackJackson@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Thanks for the heads up.

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  • HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You just short nutrition powder

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  • Emi@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Eggs are awesome

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  • whalebiologist@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    just gotta try stuff, nutrition is really personal in my opinion. you have to notice you’re fatgiued, or addled and correlate it with if your diet is lacking something or if you are just dehydrated or sleep deprived.

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    • JetpackJackson@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Alright, thank you

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  • DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Even if you eat meat, a multivitamin a day is a good idea.

    As for the thing that people always bring up, protein, the lazy way is to make air-fried tofu to replace chicken in various dishes. If you airfry tofu, you don’t really need to prepress/drain if before you cook it, just cut it into pieces and put it in the air frier for 8 minutes.

    If you’re anti-vitamin for some reason and you don’t mind being a little trashy, B12 is what you are likely to be short on with a vegan diet. Look at the amount of B12 in an energy drink. If you drink a 1/4 of a can a day, you have your B12 covered.

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• SUDO@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Vegans eat a LOT of beans to be healthy.

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  • Railcar8095@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s only a downside for the coworkers

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    • rbos@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Your body adapts. It’s mainly down to your gut microbiome being able to handle it.

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    • Dicska@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m a helpless cheese/dairy addict, trying to cut off as much meat as possible. Unfortunately, a few years ago my body had decided not to deal with that anymore, and I became slightly lactose intolerant. Now, I can either go vegan and end up eating shittons of legumes, or I can keep eating cheese (my workplace provides free food, but basically everything has cheese in it). I’m trying my best to keep them alive, but it’s not easy.

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• Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s clearly because of the weed. Munchies be too powerful to quell.

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• HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  wait dorito is vegan? are you sure? a lot of spice mixes (i’m looking at you fritolay) use chicken bouillon in their “barbecue” mixes because they suck

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  • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Famously everything other then cheese and onion is vegan, including Smokey Bacon somehow.

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  • GreenDust@lemmings.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Most are not, but a handful of certain flavors are

    yourveganjourney.com/vegan-doritos/

    vegfaqs.com/are-doritos-vegan/

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  • geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Mostly dairy products which make it non-vegan. Certainly not chicken bouillon

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  • Viceversa@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m sure chickens give up bouillon willingly.

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• bhamlin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I was worried for a second that I had missed blocking a vegan community…

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  • protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    why block vegans?

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    • GreenDust@lemmings.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s scary when I see posts that make me rethink my values :(

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    • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s not a hate crime to block things you have no interest in.

      First thing I did on here was block all the trans and gay stuff. Then the tankies and the vegans. And now all the AI shit, although that’s mostly not got a home here.

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    • remon@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Personally I don’t care much for self righteous sermons.

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    • bhamlin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Because the ones who usually post and respond are not interested in polite, casual discourse. I block crossfit communities for the same reasons.

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    • Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It usually bring stupid flamewars?

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• YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I love the impossible burgers!

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  • LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah. But apparently OOP was eating like ten at a time

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    • YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I get that. I just wanted to say I love them.

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• Gullible@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  impossible burger

  I’d rather kick a dog to death than eat one of these monstrosities. A creamy center is the sort of debasement that no one deserves to experience in their burger. I understand that not everyone shares my opinion, and I can accept that they are so fundamentally wrong that they should not be considered human. It is not just acceptable, it is a moral imperative to excise these subhumans from the our cities.

  Mushroom, red bean, and grain burgers are the right choice.

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  • Retail4068@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You sound like a blast at a party.

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    • Gullible@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I sound like someone who enjoys writing hyperbole.

      But to continue the bit a bit more, you sound like someone who serves subpar food near cherished pets.

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• lemmy_at_em@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I thought that was a single serving sized hummus!?

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• superweeniehutjrs@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  My sisters are actually carbitarian. Very few vegetables for people who have been vegetarian for decades

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• Bluewing@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So, let me get this straight. It’s less about your dietary regime and more about getting up off your ass and getting out and burning off the calories you consume?

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• Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I know a vegan girl and she lives off of spice and soda.

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• Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So much BDS.

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