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The cops pay Anon a visit

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Submitted ⁨⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works⁩ to ⁨greentext@sh.itjust.works⁩

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  • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨34⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    congrats for torrenting the latest disney movie off their honeypot

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  • x00z@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They already showed their cards so they’ll not come back with a warrant. This is more about intimidation than anything else.

    I’ve had the same thing happen to me. “Can we search your house? It will only help you if you have nothing to hide”. Fuck off cunts. They didn’t try again.

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  • AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Fake: cops obeying the law and following due process? Really?

    Gay: Anon clearly took “be gay, do crimes” seriously… too bad he didn’t take his opsec as seriously…

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    • ChilledPeppers@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Real: anon has cp on his drive Hetero: he didn’t bend over to the copa

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  • kcseb@pawb.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    And here’s where we introduce you to this magical term called full disk encryption!

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    • EmpatheticTeddyBear@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      And if you use BitLocker, do NOT backup your recovery key to the cloud!

      gizmodo.com/microsoft-reportedly-turned-over-bitl…

      Print out out, give it to a friend, don’t mention it via electronic means (email, text, Snapchat, YouTube, and so on…)

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      • msage@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        And if you use BitLocker, don’t!

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      • turdas@suppo.fi ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Even better is to memorize it.

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    • LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This person should also turn off their computer and remove the RAM so it’s zeroed out if it gets siezed.

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      • SlurpingPus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        This is where I think NFC may finally be useful. If cops show up, I slide my phone by a hidden NFC tag, and an http request is sent to my desktop machine. Everything incriminating is wiped and the computer is turned off, before the cops can walk to the room.

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      • trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Full disk encryption doesn’t help much if the pc is running anyway since the key will be in memory

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      • Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        If it can be proven you did that, that’s gonna look real bad in court.

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  • xodasu@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Short answer, do NOT destroy the computer or flee. That is textbook obstruction and will turn a sketchy visit into a criminal case overnight. You were right to refuse a search without a warrant, keep doing that, but destroying evidence or running wiping tools is a dumb panic move.

    Get a lawyer immediately, even a public defender if money is tight. Record everything from the visit now, names, badge numbers, what they said, time stamps, take photos of any paperwork or footprints. Do not log into accounts, do not run cleanup software, and if possible disconnect the machine from the internet and power it down until your lawyer tells you what to do. Turning it off is different from erasing stuff.

    If the cops come back with a warrant, comply on your lawyer’s advice. If you’re honestly worried the allegation involves really serious crimes, get counsel fast, because those carry mandatory procedures and you need someone who knows how to handle evidence and interviews. And for the future, yes encrypt your drives and keep recovery keys offline, but that’s after you sort this with legal help.

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    • feannag@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      IANAL, but I think it’s only a crime if it’s destroyed after a warrant has been issued.

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      • Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’m very glad you’re not a lawyer.

        shouselaw.com/…/destruction-of-evidence-charge/

        This says you just need to know what you were destroying was evidence, which Anon clearly does.

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      • hector@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Or if a court has ordered you to preserve the information. And the establishment routinely flouts court orders to preserve information with impunity

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    • hector@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It is very arguable it would be a crime to wipe a computer with only the police asking to warrantless search it. It’s a crime to destroy any evidence of a crime so I guess there is that.

      They have no evidence there was a crime though. I don’t doubt they would charge it, but a jury wouldn’t likely convict because it’s a bullshit charge. You are under no obligation to incriminate yourself with your own evidence no matter what the police and prosecutors say.

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  • mech@feddit.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If the cops actually had anything real, they could get the warrant with a phone call while stalling you at the door, or even storm your place and get it retroactively.
    And even if they don’t get it, no cop can get in trouble for the raid if they “believe” you might destroy evidence.
    It completely invalidates your 4th amendment rights but congress felt this was needed to protect you against “terrorists” 25 years ago.

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    • hector@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Plus if police “believe” they are following the law, they are allowed to use the fruit from the poison tree, for decades now, ever since The Fear of the Others in the crime wave in the 80’s and 90’s gave them license to cancel the Bill of Rights.

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  • Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Would it be possible to wipe some files off the PC without leaving any traces?

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    • MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Yeah, but there will be a trace that something was wiped if you use certain tools and didn’t then fill that empty scrambled space with a bunch of games or something.

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    • IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      burn the ssd/hard drives

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  • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Anon was probably downloading csam

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    • hector@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I don’t think that’s a logical assumption at all. But something to keep in mind. Especially now, with the administration going after journalists, leakers, and soon if not already critics, people that make fun of them, that criticize Israel, etc.

      They would like us to assume everyone whose computer they are seizing is looking at child porn. They could also frame people for that.

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  • hector@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So if there is anything on your computer, deleting it just destroys the file directory to it, they can find it still, you have to delete everything, then rewrite over it with new information.

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    • BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Drills, big magnets, hammers etc… work too

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      • Sv443@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Big magnets will only pull the arm off the plates and leave the data intact. Also why waste good hardware when all it needs is a couple of writes with all zeroes and ones?

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      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Mircrowave.

        Just take out anything LiON prior to nuking.

        And also plan on getting a new microwave.

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    • Slashme@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      shred /dev/sda

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      • apex32@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        Hah. TIL you can use shred on device files. I was only familiar with using dd to wipe drives.

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  • QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Anon shouldn’t have fucked with the CSAM

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    • hector@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Pretty convenient world for the cops you are constructing where everyone they try to warrantless search has kiddie porn.

      They aren’t above [redacted,] on people either. One should never assume the police are acting in good faith in today’s world. Or yesterday’s. But especially not now.

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  • LittleBorat3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What did anon even do to be on the radar, this is just not credible. They would never show up for a chat if that was the case, they would collect evidence quietly.

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    • LordFireCrotch@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      4chan green text? Not credible?

      No way!

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  • Hello_there@fedia.io ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    1. Hammer.
    2. "my computer just broke. Had to get a new one"
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  • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Sounds like time to wipe PC and install a clean OS

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    • hector@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yes, wipe it all, write over it all, then wipe the entire operating system and install linux, as something you had been planning on doing for a long time anyway. If they say otherwise in court you rant to the jury about microsoft.

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